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Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}

by "Alex W." <ingilt@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 3, 2008 at 12:27 PM

<UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:fttm64hi8dp60fbt9fp76g4vm1uakltp49@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> When I first visited England (in 1964) most people could
> not imagine they would ever understand a decimal system,
> now they hardly remember the imperial units :-)

The youth of today, that they do not know Lsd (Libra-solidus-denarius
to you) anymore....

Now listen up, here is the short version:

In Britain the pound Sterling is the central unit of money. Prior to 
decimalization the pound was divided into twenty ****llings and each
****lling 
was divided into twelve pennies or pence. Although this system seems odd, 
having a pound divided into 240 equal parts does mean that the pound can
be 
exactly divided into halves, thirds, quarters, fifths, sixths, eighths, 
tenths, twelfths, fifteenths,
sixteenths, twentieths, twenty-fourths, thirtieths, fortieths, 
forty-eightieths, sixtieths, eightieths, and one-hundred-and-twentieths. A

decimal system allows only halves, quarters, fifths, tenths, twentieths, 
twenty-fifths, and fiftieths.

Amounts of money are written in various ways. The pound is represented, as

it still is, by a £ sign, the ****lling by a 's' and the penny by a 'd'
(for 
'denarius', a Roman silver coin which was also used as the name for the 
English silver penny). So the meaning of £3-4s-6d is fairly obvious. But 
amounts below a pound are also written '12/6' meaning 12s-6d or '10/=' 
meaning ten ****llings. An amount such as 12/6 would be pronounced 'twelve 
and six' as a more casual form of 'twelve ****llings and sixpence'. From
the 
late eighteenth century a
****lling was popularly called a 'bob' as in 'it cost three bob'. But you 
would only use that for whole ****llings so it would be 'three bob' or
'three 
and eight' but never 'three bob and six'.

A guinea is £1-1s-0d (which is £1.05) and could be written as '1g' or
'1gn' 
or, in the plural, '3gs' or '3gns'. It is considered a more gentlemanly 
amount than £1. You pay tradesmen, such as a carpenter, in pounds but 
gentlemen, such as an artist, in guineas. It is a tradition in the legal 
profession that a barrister is paid in guineas but keeps only the pounds, 
giving his clerk the ****llings.  The guinea can also be divided exactly
into 
many different amounts - halves, thirds, quarters, sixths, sevenths,
ninths, 
fourteenths, twenty-firsts, twenty-eighths, thirty-sixths, forty-seconds, 
sixty-thirds, eighty-fourths, and one-hundred-and-twenty-sixths. One
useful 
factor is that a third of a guinea was exactly seven ****llings.

The coinage reflects the principal divisions of the money and adds some of

its own. A gold coin worth £1 is called a sovereign and the half
sovereign, 
also in gold, is worth ten ****llings. These coins were first minted in
1819 
as a response to the rather uncertain value of earlier gold coins. Both
were 
current throughout Victoria's reign. A crown is a silver coin worth 5/=- 
though much more common is the half-crown worth 2/6 or exactly one eighth
of 
a pound. The ****lling is also a silver coin as are the sixpence and the 
threepence (usually pronounced and sometimes spelled 'thruppence'). The
coin 
is sometimes called a thrupp'ny bit. Silver coins called groats worth four

pence were also minted and are sometimes called Joeys (a term also used in

the mid-twentieth century for threepenny bits when they were no longer
made 
of silver).

Half-groats and silver pennies are not in circulation but are still minted

for a tradition known as Maundy Money where the Monarch gives poor people
in 
a parish a groat, a threepence, a half groat and a penny. The number of
poor 
people favoured in this way is the same as the number of the monarch's 
years. The tradition still goes on, although now the number of people 
honoured is as many men and as many women as the monarch's years and they 
each get the same number of pence as the monarch's years. For example, in 
1998 the 74-year-old Queen Elizabeth II gave out 74 pence (seven and a bit

sets of a groat,
a thruppence, a half-groat and a penny) of Maundy money to each of 74 men 
and 74 women in ****tsmouth. The sets come in an official little purse and 
some recipients immediately sell the sets at considerable profit to
waiting 
dealers.

Lower value coins are made of copper (bronze from 1860). The penny is 
accompanied by the halfpenny (pronounced hape-nee and sometimes written 
ha'penny) and the farthing, worth a quarter of a penny. Half farthings
were 
also minted for some of Victoria's reign but were unpopular because of
their 
small size. Smaller coins - one third and one quarter farthings - were 
minted mainly for use in some British colonies. For most people the penny
is 
still the central coin of their currency and is used in words like 
'penn'orth' meaning a penny-worth
of something as in 'I'll take a penn'orth of tobacco' and also as in 'it's
a 
good penn'orth, sir' meaning it is good value for your penny. These coins 
are referred to as 'coppers' as in 'It cost a few coppers'. Not to be 
confused with the slang meaning of 'a copper' from the early Victorian 
period of 'a policeman'.

The Victorians introduced one new coin intended as the first step towards
a 
decimal system of coinage. A two ****lling coin, exactly a tenth of a
pound, 
was first minted in 1849. It was called a florin and it was minted for 
nearly 120 years until 1968 when, in preparation for decimalisation, a
coin 
of the same size became the new ten pence piece. The florin is also called

the two-****lling-piece or the two-bob-bit. It did not oust the popular
half 
a crown, usually called a half-crown, worth 2s-6d, which also remained
until 
decimalisation. Even in the 1960s auctioneers at country sales would move 
the bidding on in half-crowns. The bid between five and ten ****llings was 
always 'three half-crowns'. A double florin was minted in 1887 but was not

popular. Guineas were not minted after 1813. In the eighteenth century
half, 
third, and quarter guineas were also minted. Two and five guinea coins 
belong to an earlier age.

Got that?
Quite simple really....

Now, can I tell you about cricket?
 




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Metric System Is Gay
HVAC <MR.HVAC@[EMAIL P  2008-07-02 04:25:22 
HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-02 14:52:08 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Hagar" <hag  2008-07-02 11:22:53 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-03 03:28:45 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"TimK" <timk  2008-07-03 00:11:49 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Smiler" <Sm  2008-07-03 03:43:52 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Alex W." <i  2008-07-03 12:28:00 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-03 14:41:05 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Alex W." <i  2008-07-03 14:50:25 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-03 15:58:58 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Alex W." <i  2008-07-03 17:35:34 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-03 23:43:43 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Alex W." <i  2008-07-03 12:27:49 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-03 14:52:14 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Alex W." <i  2008-07-04 01:32:12 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-04 14:30:34 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Hybrid Angel"   2008-07-03 13:37:09 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-03 23:48:37 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Smiler" <Sm  2008-07-04 01:37:09 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Alex W." <i  2008-07-04 02:40:08 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-04 14:35:59 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
Heinz Wappler <wappler  2008-07-05 08:11:29 
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"Lord Vetinari"  2008-07-02 13:39:19 
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UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-03 03:34:13 
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"TimK" <timk  2008-07-03 00:13:00 
Re: Metric System Is Gay
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-03 13:17:30 
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"G-Ride" <gr  2008-07-02 16:35:43 
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"Dogmantic Pyrrhonis  2008-07-02 19:56:15 
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"TimK" <timk  2008-07-03 00:14:29 
Re: Metric System Is Gay
"TimK" <timk  2008-07-03 00:12:23 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Dogmantic Pyrrhonis  2008-07-02 21:21:00 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-03 12:08:50 
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JohnN <jnorris53@[EMAI  2008-07-03 07:12:57 
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Spencer W Hunter <s_no  2008-07-03 23:11:11 
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"Smiler" <Sm  2008-07-04 01:41:13 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
Disneygeek <edrhodes@[  2008-07-03 07:16:30 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
Nosterill <fladgate@[E  2008-07-04 00:31:36 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-04 14:28:16 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
Nosterill <fladgate@[E  2008-07-04 07:00:30 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-04 17:09:22 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-07-04 19:55:49 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"pbamvv@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-04 08:37:29 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-07-04 10:51:23 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Smiler" <Sm  2008-07-04 22:56:19 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Alex W." <i  2008-07-05 00:18:48 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Smiler" <Sm  2008-07-05 01:04:03 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Alex W." <i  2008-07-05 18:47:47 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-05 20:50:52 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Hagar" <hsa  2008-07-05 19:42:44 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-07-06 12:33:38 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-06 15:04:29 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-07-06 15:57:16 
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UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-06 19:33:27 
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Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-07-06 21:36:09 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-06 15:03:12 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Alex W." <i  2008-07-06 15:06:01 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-06 16:21:46 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-05 21:25:26 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Hagar" <hsa  2008-07-05 19:51:22 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Alex W." <i  2008-07-06 15:18:19 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Smiler" <Sm  2008-07-05 23:58:32 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Hagar" <hsa  2008-07-05 19:52:32 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Smiler" <Sm  2008-07-07 00:29:58 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
"Hagar" <hag  2008-07-08 06:41:33 
Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}
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