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Re: HVAC Is Gay {was: Re: Metric System Is Gay}

by "Smiler" <Smiler@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 4, 2008 at 01:37 AM

"Alex W." <ingilt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> <UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:fttm64hi8dp60fbt9fp76g4vm1uakltp49@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> When I first visited England (in 1964) most people could
>> not imagine they would ever understand a decimal system,
>> now they hardly remember the imperial units :-)
>
> The youth of today, that they do not know Lsd (Libra-solidus-denarius
> to you) anymore....
>
> Now listen up, here is the short version:
>
> In Britain the pound Sterling is the central unit of money. Prior to 
> decimalization the pound was divided into twenty ****llings and each 
> ****lling was divided into twelve pennies or pence. Although this system 
> seems odd, having a pound divided into 240 equal parts does mean that
the 
> pound can be exactly divided into halves, thirds, quarters, fifths, 
> sixths, eighths, tenths, twelfths, fifteenths,
> sixteenths, twentieths, twenty-fourths, thirtieths, fortieths, 
> forty-eightieths, sixtieths, eightieths, and one-hundred-and-twentieths.
A 
> decimal system allows only halves, quarters, fifths, tenths, twentieths,

> twenty-fifths, and fiftieths.
>
> Amounts of money are written in various ways. The pound is represented,
as 
> it still is, by a £ sign, the ****lling by a 's' and the penny by a 'd' 
> (for 'denarius', a Roman silver coin which was also used as the name for

> the English silver penny). So the meaning of £3-4s-6d is fairly obvious.

> But amounts below a pound are also written '12/6' meaning 12s-6d or
'10/=' 
> meaning ten ****llings. An amount such as 12/6 would be pronounced
'twelve 
> and six' as a more casual form of 'twelve ****llings and sixpence'. From 
> the late eighteenth century a
> ****lling was popularly called a 'bob' as in 'it cost three bob'. But you

> would only use that for whole ****llings so it would be 'three bob' or 
> 'three and eight' but never 'three bob and six'.
>
> A guinea is £1-1s-0d (which is £1.05) and could be written as '1g' or 
> '1gn' or, in the plural, '3gs' or '3gns'. It is considered a more 
> gentlemanly amount than £1. You pay tradesmen, such as a carpenter, in 
> pounds but gentlemen, such as an artist, in guineas. It is a tradition
in 
> the legal profession that a barrister is paid in guineas but keeps only 
> the pounds, giving his clerk the ****llings.  The guinea can also be 
> divided exactly into many different amounts - halves, thirds, quarters, 
> sixths, sevenths, ninths, fourteenths, twenty-firsts, twenty-eighths, 
> thirty-sixths, forty-seconds, sixty-thirds, eighty-fourths, and 
> one-hundred-and-twenty-sixths. One useful factor is that a third of a 
> guinea was exactly seven ****llings.
>
> The coinage reflects the principal divisions of the money and adds some
of 
> its own. A gold coin worth £1 is called a sovereign and the half 
> sovereign, also in gold, is worth ten ****llings. These coins were first 
> minted in 1819 as a response to the rather uncertain value of earlier
gold 
> coins. Both were current throughout Victoria's reign. A crown is a
silver 
> coin worth 5/=- though much more common is the half-crown worth 2/6 or 
> exactly one eighth of a pound. The ****lling is also a silver coin as are

> the sixpence and the threepence (usually pronounced and sometimes
spelled 
> 'thruppence'). The coin is sometimes called a thrupp'ny bit. Silver
coins 
> called groats worth four pence were also minted and are sometimes called

> Joeys (a term also used in the mid-twentieth century for threepenny bits

> when they were no longer made of silver).
>
> Half-groats and silver pennies are not in circulation but are still
minted 
> for a tradition known as Maundy Money where the Monarch gives poor
people 
> in a parish a groat, a threepence, a half groat and a penny. The number
of 
> poor people favoured in this way is the same as the number of the 
> monarch's years. The tradition still goes on, although now the number of

> people honoured is as many men and as many women as the monarch's years 
> and they each get the same number of pence as the monarch's years. For 
> example, in 1998 the 74-year-old Queen Elizabeth II gave out 74 pence 
> (seven and a bit sets of a groat,
> a thruppence, a half-groat and a penny) of Maundy money to each of 74
men 
> and 74 women in ****tsmouth. The sets come in an official little purse
and 
> some recipients immediately sell the sets at considerable profit to 
> waiting dealers.
>
> Lower value coins are made of copper (bronze from 1860). The penny is 
> accompanied by the halfpenny (pronounced hape-nee and sometimes written 
> ha'penny) and the farthing, worth a quarter of a penny. Half farthings 
> were also minted for some of Victoria's reign but were unpopular because

> of their small size. Smaller coins - one third and one quarter farthings
- 
> were minted mainly for use in some British colonies. For most people the

> penny is still the central coin of their currency and is used in words 
> like 'penn'orth' meaning a penny-worth
> of something as in 'I'll take a penn'orth of tobacco' and also as in
'it's 
> a good penn'orth, sir' meaning it is good value for your penny. These 
> coins are referred to as 'coppers' as in 'It cost a few coppers'. Not to

> be confused with the slang meaning of 'a copper' from the early
Victorian 
> period of 'a policeman'.
>
> The Victorians introduced one new coin intended as the first step
towards 
> a decimal system of coinage. A two ****lling coin, exactly a tenth of a 
> pound, was first minted in 1849. It was called a florin and it was
minted 
> for nearly 120 years until 1968 when, in preparation for decimalisation,
a 
> coin of the same size became the new ten pence piece. The florin is also

> called the two-****lling-piece or the two-bob-bit. It did not oust the 
> popular half a crown, usually called a half-crown, worth 2s-6d, which
also 
> remained until decimalisation. Even in the 1960s auctioneers at country 
> sales would move the bidding on in half-crowns. The bid between five and

> ten ****llings was always 'three half-crowns'. A double florin was minted

> in 1887 but was not popular. Guineas were not minted after 1813. In the 
> eighteenth century half, third, and quarter guineas were also minted.
Two 
> and five guinea coins belong to an earlier age.
>
> Got that?
> Quite simple really....
>
> Now, can I tell you about cricket?

You forgot the tanner!

Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
 




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Nosterill <fladgate@[E  2008-07-04 00:31:36 
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UseNetOnly@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-04 17:09:22 
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Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-07-04 19:55:49 
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