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by "John Winston" <johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 11, 2006 at 03:19 PM

Subject: Caves Near My Home Town.          July 11, 2006.

  Here is some information about some underground caves
near my home town, Sonora, Calif. which is in the
Mother Lode.

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  (JW  I skipped over page 2 of this material  because I
wanted to find out what they said about Sonora, Calif.)

  THE SECRETS OF THE MOJAVE (Or, The Conspiracy Against
Reality) --
  Page #3
  [7th edition]
  Compiled by 'The Group' -- Edited by 'Bra-ton'
-----------------------------------
  continued from Page 2 ........................
  "This letter is in reply to your January 31 letter.
Please forgive me for not answering sooner. Enclosed is
some material I hope that you can glean something of
value (from). Please be as candid as you have been in
the past and if I am far off base don't hesitate to
tell me...
  "Our foundation has located a vast system of underground
passages in the Mother Lode country of California. They were
first discovered in 1936, ignored by all even with our best
efforts to reveal them. Recently a road crew blasted out
an opening verifying our claims. ONE (of the chambers is)
200 feet long, 70 feet wide and 50 feet high. We have
disclosed what we believe to be a vast subterranean
drainage system (probably traversing the Great American
Desert country for a distance of more than 600 miles).
We believe this system extends out like five fingers of
your hand to such landmarks as Zion Canyon in Utah, the
Grand Canyon, another runs south from the Carson Sink
in Nevada and yet another follows (below) the western
slope of the same range, joining it's counterpart and
ending somewhere in the Mojave Desert. We believe,
contrary to orthodox geologists, that the existence of
this underground system drains all surface waters
running into Nevada (none, with the exception of the
Armagosa runs out) and accounts for the fact that it is
a Great American Desert. The hairy creatures that you
have written about have been seen in several of these
areas.
  Certainly there has been much 'saucer' activity in these
parts. For two years I have collected material pertinent
to these creatures and if you have any opinions along
these lines I would appreciate hearing them.
  "So much for now. I hope that I am still your friend.
Much of my time has been devoted (to) helping a farmer
near Portland who has made a fantastic discovery of
incredible stone artifacts. He has several tons of them.
They predate anything yet found (or accepted), let us
say that for now. We are making slow but steady progress
in getting through the wall of orthodoxy. - Chuck
Edw-rds."
  Several years ago, subsurface researcher Richard
Tor-nto reprinted a news article in his SHAVERTRON
newsletter describing a Municip-l Water Director in
Los Angeles. This official talked with a man who said
that he was hired by the gov-rnment to look for
underground water sources for Camp Ir-in in California.
(JW  I've been in that area quite a bit looking for
an underground city near Bonaza Spring near Cadiz, Calif.
I was not abe to find it but I had a friend who claimed
to have gone inside of it.)  At one point the man and a
partner came across an abandoned mine and decided to
follow it to the bottom.
  Near the bottom he was surprised to discover an ancient
earth-fault which was wide enough for him and his
companion to enter.
  They traversed this fault for a good distance until
they finally emerged into a huge river-cavern. To his
surprise he saw before him a crystal pure underground
river over a quarter of a mile wide which flowed through
the passage and out of sight.
  Since learning of this incident the Mun-cipal Water
Director claims to have 'discovered' at least five
similar underground rivers. Some of these have allegedly
been die-traced and were found to emerge from the
continental slope below the surface of the oceans, and
at least one of them into the Gulf of California.
  This might confirm the allegations made by one anonymous
retired Na-y officer that the Na-y has knowledge of a VAST
system or labyrinth of aqua-caverns which meander beneath
the surface of California and even into other western
states, and that these watery labyrinths exit out into the
oceans via huge entrances in the lower walls of the
Continental Slope. One of the more extravagant claims is
that some of these aqua-caverns are so large that they can
be navigated by submarine, and that one nuc-ear submarine
on a se-ret mapping mission in fact became lost within the
maze and was never heard from again.
  Two American nuc-ear submarines have disappeared without
explanation in the past, the U.S.S. SCORPION and the U.S.S.
THRESHER. It is true that one woman who claimed to have
had a very strong emotional bond with her husband who
worked on the Thresher, insisted at the time that she
just 'knew' that her husband was still alive after the
'disaster'. She said that she and her husband had such a
spiri-ual-emotional connection that they always knew when
the other was in trouble (For information on the Nav-'s
investigations of the aqua-labyrinths via nu-lear subs,
etc., see:
  'CALIFORNIA FLOATS ON OCEAN?'; article in the March,
1980 issue of John J. Wi-liams' "REBEL MAGAZINE", which
at the time was available from:
  Consumertronics Co., c/o John J. Wil-iams. Pres., 2011
Crescent Dr., P.O. Drawer 537., Alamogardo, NM 88310).
  The 'Thresher' incidentally 'disappeared' on April 10,
1963 with a crew of 129 men under the command of John W.
Har-ey, USN.)
  Researchers Will Ca-son and Jeannie Joy interviewed
the woman mentioned above shortly after the
disappearance. She said:
  "...My husband was on the submarine Thresher when
it disappeared. I don't consider myself a widow. I
don't believe my husband is d-ad. No, it's not a
matter of just not being able to believe it, to
accept reality; I just can't get over the conviction
that he's still alive somewhere. I love my husband very
much. I know he loved -- loves me. We were very close.
We could always tell when something was wrong with each
other. Intuition, I guess. I should have felt something
the instant there was trouble, if he was really in
serious trouble and knew it -- a matter of life and de-th
-- but I didn't."
   "What do you believe really happened?" Carson and Joy
asked the attractive young woman.
  "Most people think I'm crazy when I say this, but I
believe the Thresher was captured."
  "By whom?"
  "I can't say for sure, but there WAS a Rus-ian submarine
spotted near there that day (that is, near where it
REPORTEDLY vanished 220 miles off Boston harbor) -- only
I can't imagine how even the Russi-ns could CAPTURE a
vessel like the Thresher without leaving the slightest
evidence!"
  John J. W-lliams' source, the retired Na-y officer
(whose credentials Willi-ms verified), stated that "an
eccentric billionaire" (Howard Hug-es!?) financed the
false Thresher "recovery operation" to satisfy the public
and the media.
  Still more revelations concerning the Mojave subnet
can be found in Bourke L-e's book 'DEATH VALLEY MEN'
(MacMillan Co., N.Y. 1932).
  In his chapter: 'Old Gold', Lee describes a conversation
which he had several years ago with a small group of Death
Valley explorers. The conversation had eventually turned
to the subject of Paihute Indian legends. At one point two
of the men, Jack and Bill, described their experience with
an 'underground city' which they claimed to have discovered
after one of them had fallen through the bottom of an old
mine shaft near Wingate Pass. (JW  I have driven there at
one time but didn't even get out of my car because I
knew the entrace had been covered by a flash flood
previously.) They found themselves in a natural
underground cavern which they claimed they followed
for about 20 miles north into the heart of the Panamint
Mountains. To their amazement, they claimed, they found
themselves in an huge, ancient, underground cavern city.
This account will be quoted later on, however in addition
to this, Le- recorded yet another story of a Paihute
Indian (not the same one referred to by Oga Make) who may
have stumbled into the 'deeper' underground kingdom of
the ancient r-ce who built the city within the Panamints,
a civilization that was still alive and thriving after
thousands of years.
  During this lengthy conversation wherein they first
revealed the sec-et of the underground city to -ee and
others, the discussion turned to the topic of a Paihute
Indian legend that they had heard which was remarkably
similar to an ancient GRECIAN myth. The Paihute legend
concerned a tribal chief whose wife had died, and who
according to the tradition took a spiri-ual journey to the
underworld to find her, and upon returning with her he
'looked back' and since this was forbidden he was not
allowed to bring his wife back with him from the de-d.
  This legend would not be in the same vein as the more
tangible story related earlier in the File, as told by
the Navaho Oga-Make, concerning a Paihute chief who was
allegedly PHYSICALLY taken into the underground cities
of the Hav-musuvs deep below the Panamints. After this
legend was referred to, the conversation turned to a
discussion of an alleged subterranean r-ce, who were
believed to inhabit very deep caverns far below the
Death Valley territory.
  Paihute legends of the 'Hav-musuvs' indicate that
these ancient dwellers of the Panamints abandoned the
ancient city within the mountain itself and migrated to
still deeper and larger caverns below. Could the
following story tie-in with the Paihute legends of the
Hav-musuvs? We will enter the conversation with the
following discourse from Bourke L-e:

Part 1.

John Winston.   johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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