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by "John Winston" <johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 17, 2008 at 02:41 PM

Subject: Do Germany And Russia Have Space Crafts?
Part 3.  April 15. 2008.

  It is hard to believe that any of this information
is true.  I once worked on the Atlas Missile program
for GE and I have a great deal of respect for Mr.
V. Braun.

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  Russian cosmospheres could not be destroyed,
the Kremlin told R-ckefeller c-annels that day.
On Sept. 10 1982 the Indian Ocean satellite
launched from space shuttle no.4 was shot down
by a cosmosphere.
  It had been linked to Air F-rce Space Command
in Colorado Springs. The Russians had left it
there to shoot it in a surprise attack. Now U-A
could no longer attack Russia. The cosmospheres
had brain scrambling transmitters to confuse
pilots.
  This ends this section of a summary of Fire
in the Sky by "One Who Knows".
  http://www.angelfire.com/oz/cv/pinegap.html

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      AMERICA BUILDS ITS OWN SPACE****PS.
  The Americans were confronted with technology,
they couldn't counter so signed a non-interference
treaty to get the technology to fight back. The
Germans gave the USA their anti-grav technology
after the w-r, when they came to America. Al
says that when Apollo 11 landed on the moon,
Americans already there, greeted them because
they had anti-grav technology in the 70's by
back engineering UFO's. There must have been 2
different factions developing space technology
as the Bolsheviks were in charge of the space
shuttles at Houston, which couldn't get off
the ground, for being hit by cosmospheres
according to The Fire From the Sky articles. But
the Nazis, who came to USA after the wa- started
work at Area 51 on anti-grav disks.
  Originally there were 3 Nazi scientists in
Germany developing flying disks. The specialists
were S-hriever, H-bermohl and M-ethe. It is
believed after the -ar Ha-ermohl fell into
the hands of the Russians. Mi-the developed
at a later date similar flying disks at A V
Roe and Co. for US-, according to Robert J-ngk
who wrote this in 1956 in the book Brighter
than a Thousand Suns. W-rner von Braun went to
-SA to start the rocket program, his professor
Herman Ob0rth was captured by Russia and the
rest of the Nazi anti-grav scientists
disappeared down to Antarctica where they
had prepared a place to live for some time
previously. (Or possibly to the moon.)
Linda H-nt of C-N told of 1,600 Nazi scientists,
largely escaping the N-remberg trials came to
US under Operation Paperclip to develop the US
space program. V-n Braun became the director
of the Marshall S-ace Flight Center, his brother
joined him to work there. V-2 flight test
director, Kurt D-bus was a director of Kennedy
Sp-ce center in Florida.
  Arthur R-ldolf was project director of N-SA's
Saturn V rocket program, that took US to the
moon.

    JAPANESE AND GERMANS HEAD TO THE MOON.
  Tim S-artz also writes that Vladimir T-rziski, a
Bulgarian born engineer and physicist who
graduated from Tokai University in Tokyo in
1980, says that the Bavarian I-luminati has
been involved with top s-cret space research
and development since the turn of the century,
and that the Nazis, the American Eastern
Establishment and K-B has been involved as
well. The Nazi's working in the highest
levels of internationalism were and are
intricately involved in the situation.
Te-ziski says there are videos of
German/Japanese saucer landings on the moon
and Mars in 1944-46; M-rconi group's landing
on Mars in 1956; video footage of Nazi
interplanetary dreadnoughts and a se-ret
Soviet-American saucer landing on Mars in
the 1960's. The Germans allegedly landed on
the moon as early as 1942, using their larger
exo-atmospheric turbine powered rocket flying
saucers. On their first day of landing, the
Germans started tunneling under the surface.
By the end of the -ar there was a base on the
moon. After 1944 the f-ee energy tachyon
drive craft were used to haul people,
material and the first robots to the
construction site on the moon. When
Russians and Americans sec-etly landed
together on the moon in the early 50's
with their own saucers, they spent the
first night there as guests of the Nazis
in their under ground base. In the 60's
a massive Russian-American base had
been built on the moon, now occupied by
40,000 people.
            NEXT STOP MARS.
  Tim Sw-rtz writes that according to an
underground German do***entary from the T-ule
Society, a German flight to Mars, departed in
April 1945. The crew contained hundreds, a
volunteer s-icide crew of Germans and Japanese,
who knew this was a one way trip. The 74 meter
naval w-rfare dreadnought, was saucer shaped
and had bigger tachyon drives. Most of the
systems had to be operated manually and it took
almost 8 months to accomplish. The initial
thrust was probably accomplished using the
strong gravitational field of the earth. The
craft coasted in an elliptical orbit to Mars,
with its main drives turned off. After a
disastrous, almost crash landing, the saucer
slammed to a stop, damaging irreparably its
engines, but saving the crew. The smaller
gravitational field of Mars, and thinner
atmosphere generated less power for the
tachyon drives, so hindered air braking.
The radio message of their arrival was sent
to their base on the moon and the German
underground space control center in
Antarctica. Later trips to Mars by the joint
Soviet-US craft reached Mars in only 2-3 days,
because their drives were working the whole
flight, accelerating in the first half and
decelerating in the second. Ter-iski, claimed
in 1993 that any independent scientist who
discovers electromagnetic 'fr-e-energy"
antigravity-propulsion is soon bought off,
b-ack listed or k-lled by the Bavarian
Ill-minati. The Bavarians, Tim writes, were
intent on establi****ng the New W-rld Order.
The defeat of Nazi Germany, forced the
Secr-t Group, (Bavarian Illum-nati) to flee
to their s-cret base already established in
Antarctica. By 1946 the se-ret Antarctic base,
( New Berlin or Neuschwabenland ) was
beginning to make its presence known through
incursions into the airspaces of US and the
The Soviet Union. Since then there have been
rumors about Germans counterfeiting US currency
and the Nazis from their Antarctic base, are
re****ted to be the real power behind the New
Wo-ld Order, with the help of their allies
in the CI- and N-A.
       NAZIS ALL OVER THE GLOBE
  They first began to slowly infiltrate into
Argentina, Chile and then up into US. In the
late 40's and 50's they put their agents in
place and began rebuilding their European
industrial base. Nelson Ro-kefeller, brought
3000 high Nazi party officials from Germany
i-legally into US. As of today there are now
1.6 million Nazis in US, many in high level
govt.. and major cor****ations. These Nazis
are attempting to set up a Fourth R-ich to
eventually eliminate all non A-yan people,
dissidents and undesirables. The Bavarian
Illu-inati's most critical agents, Earl
W-rren and L-J, with assistance from J.
Edgar H-over participated in the J-K cover-up.
Tim reveals the deception by writing: One of
the first things the Group (Bavarian
Illumi-ati) did was to protect its own
operation, was one of Reinhard G-hlen's
specialties in WW2 Nazi intelligence,
divert attention to the "Red Menace". We also
know from the Fortress Australia article
that the Pine Gap base was built by an
American called John F-iedrich who worked
for the the Nazi created -IA.
  This is linked to Antarctica and is said
to contain information on their supercomputers
on everyone on the planet.
     THE UNDERGROUND NAZI I-VASION OF U-A.
  There is a 58 part series of the work The
Underground Nazi In-asion of The U-ited States
by agent W-lverine [aka B-anton] on UFO Text
Files at Anomalous Images
www.anomalous-images.com/text/files.html
  (Br-nton's entire works are at
www.davidicke.net/emagazine/vol18/articles/branton-books.html
  In this it states that the Ro-kefellers
are long time members of Bavarian-German
se-ret societies that are determined to bring
about one wor-d go-ernment. Nelson Rock-feller
brought 3000 crack Nazi S.S. agents into US
and gave them new identities and positions
within their cor****ate empire, or within
allied cor****ate structures. This was
called Project Paperclip. The UN was created by
the Bavarian sec-et orders and is ultimately
run from Bavaria. (The Rockefel-ers own the UN
land.) UN police action will be taken against
America to confiscate all personal weapons,
outlaw all non-sanctioned r-ligious activity
and disable freedom of speech that uses
technology. There is already said to be a
million UN troops of German, Russian and
Chinese origin willing to take the g-ns of
the US population. The German born S-ull and
Bones Society, of which Prescott B-sh, George
Bu-h Sr. and GW Bus- are members, assisted
in the financing of the Third Re-ch in
collaboration with the Rockefell-rs. A
former employee of the -IA's Wackenhut
Se-urity Organization, which has a strong
presence at Area 51 in Nevada, Michael
R-conoscuito has implied that fascist
infiltrators have taken control of the
underground faculties where mind control,
bio-genetic and advanced aerospace research
are being carried out.
     NAZIS TOOK KEY POSITIONS IN USA AFTER
THE WA-
  Continuing with a summary what 'One Who Knows'
writes and what he covers the Nazi anti-grav
saucer development: In Project Paperclip, many
Nazi scientists were brought to U-A. Werner
von Br-un and 115 other German scientists
were brought to Texas. Von Bra-n was working on
the Nazi missile program. He'd worked for Walter
Do-berger, who was convicted as a wa- criminal
and then he was set to work as director of
R & D on the US space program.

Part 3.

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Do Germany And Russia Have Space Crafts?
April 16, 2008. Part 4.

  This information just about calls everyone the
bad guys.

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  He developed a nuclear powered
trans-atmospheric vehicle. These operated out
of Area 51 in Nevada and other places. General
Reinhard Gehlen, Hitler's chief intelligence
officer against the Soviet Union, struck a
deal with the Americans after the w-r. Gehlen,
von B-aun and Dornberger continued to have
considerable influence on US p-litics. Info
was received from captured German scientists
in Russia about their weaponry, so 350 German
scientists and technicians were brought to US.
       NAZI SYSTEM OPERATES IN USA NOW.
  Almost all resistance to using Nazi wa-
criminals to accomplish C-A missions, seems to
have been overcome by the time Allen D-lles
became CI- director in 1953. The Nazi SS
D-ath's Head insignia was adopted as the symbol
of the US A-my Special Forces. Gehlen's
immediate staff of about 350 agents were brought
en masse to the US ar-y's historical division.
Richard Nixon backed Du-les and Frank W-sner,
from Gehlen's Nazi s-y network. Gehlen was a
Nixon campaign sup****ter. It was said that L.
J-hnson, H-over, von B-aun, D-rnberger, N-xon,
G B-sh and Allen D-lles were involved in the
K-nnedy a-sassination. The Gehlen organization,
copying Hitler's n-w order, established a
c-ncentration camp system in San Luis, Obispo
county. It was later renamed F-MA (Federal
-mergency Management Agency). The V-tican
provided do***ents and help for former Nazis
to escape to South America, including Martin
Bormann. Prince B-rnhard of the Netherlands
(former Nazi Storm Trooper) created a group
in 1954 that became known as the B-lderbergers.
(Now liasing with aliens from Sirius and an
intergalactic group called the C-uncil of
Nine, more later on this)
http://www.angelfire.com/oz/cv/pinegap.html

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          SECRET GOINGS ON AT THE MOON
  Al B-elek has also said that when the
astronauts of Apollo 11 arrived on the moon,
that they told Houston Space Center: "Houston,
we've got visitors up here." Houston answered:
"Are they Americans?" and the astronauts said
"Yes." Americans were waiting for them to
arrive, in chemically fueled rockets. Al also
claims there are colonies on Mars, but there
is evidence that they have been over run and
destroyed, the story goes, by reptilians. He
said radio transmissions to earth from the
colonies, which were regular, suddenly shut
off years ago. Al also says US and Russian
interests are mining the back of the moon,
bringing titanium back.  "One who knows" also
writes that the se-ret American moon base in
Copericus crater was destroyed by Russian
n-utron beam attack on Sept 27 1977. K-nnedy
said in 1961 that before the decade was out,
landing on the moon was a goal. But there
was already an American base on the moon and
a year later a space probe landed on Mars,
which confirmed the existence of an
environment which could sup****t life. Not
long after, the construction of a colony
began on Mars. This was set up by the
descendants of European royalty, called the
B-lderbergers. They also run the Pine Gap
base along with the CI- which is an
interdimensional doorway. Are people still
leaving for Mars but through an
interdimensional doorway at Pine Gap now?
We'll look into this shortly. On
http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/moonger.html
  Vladimir Te-ziski, writes of the German moon
base and Mars landing. In summary the Germans
moon landing probably in 1942 utilized their
larger exoatmospheric rocket saucers of the
Miethe and Schriever type.The Schriever W-lter
turbine powered craft was designed as an
interplanetary exploration vehicle. Its diameter,
60 meters, height 45 meters and 10 stories of
crew compartments. There is atmosphere, water
and vegetation on the moon and man does not
need a space suit to walk on the moon, ordinary
clothes suffice. The f-ee energy tachyon drive
craft of the Haunibu-1 and 2 type were used
after 1944 to haul people, material and the
first robots to the moon's construction site.
  After 1945, the Germans continued their space
effort from Antarctica. Ter-iski discovered a
photograph of their underground space control
center there.
  GERMAN-JAPANESE M-LITARY R & D COOPERATION
  Terzi-ki writes that according to Renato
V-sco, Germany shared advances in weaponry the
Italians during the wa-. The Germans worked
with the Japanese mi-itary, supplying it with
many advanced weapons. The V-1 - the Reichenberg
was produced in Japan by M-tsubi****. The best
fighter in the world - the push-pull twin
propeller Domier-335 was duplicated at the
Kaw-****ma works. In July 1945 a huge German
trans****t submarine brought to Japan two
spherical wingless flying devices. The Japanese
R & D team put a machine together and pressed
the start button. It roared into the sky and
disappeared unmanned! German and Japanese crew
departed from Germany to Mars in April 1945. '
Later trips to Mars by the joint Soviet/American
craft in 1952 and by the Va-ican craft of the
Mar-oni project from Argentina in 1956 reached
Mars in only 2/3 days. Smaller Kohler converters
powering the systems and life sup****t
equipment on board may have been used.
  Large antigravity drives of the ****p may
have solved the gravity problem and air
recycling may use the submarine method.
Vladimir Terzi-ki, Pr-sident,- American
Academy of Dissident Sciences, 10970 Ashton
Ave. #310, Los Angeles, CA 90024, phone
and fax: USA-(310)-473-9717.
    WAS THERE A REAL ALTERNATIVE 3?
  This is a summary of a lecture given by
US Capt. Bill R-bertson in Germany 1990
  Transcribed from a video.
  http://www.trufax.org/trans/robufo.html
  In the 1960's a British independent
television crew investigated what happened
to many top UK scientists, business and
m-litary people who disappeared, why they
had left the country. They'd sent postcards
and letters just once and then had never been
heard from again. Some of the postcards and
letters sent were exactly the same, like
they'd been ordered to do it.The first
program made several people write in and say
they knew more about this. An astronomy
professor in England, said that he had
recorded on one of his radio telescopes, a
re****t coming from an American space****p
before they had 'officially' sent anything
up. And he knew it was a NA-A Space Agency
recording, because of its code. He did not
have a decoder, but the television station
found someone with one and they arranged to
meet. He mailed it first but was k-lled en
route in his car and he was mysteriously
burnt all the way to his bones, as if it
was done by a high intensity laser or
similar. The second program covered this. It
was in the British newspapers.
  Other people revealed that together America
and Russia were establi****ng bases on the Moon
and Mars with these people - before sputnik
and spacecraft. However they were ordered to say
it was all a hoax and to fire the re****ters
working on this or they'd lose their license.
But they'd showed the professor's tape of the
Mars landing on May 22 1962 on the television,
before it was cut off the air and before they
were threatened with closing the license of
the program. People were and the people who
worked on it fired.
        THE TAPE OF THE MARS LANDING
  The interference with the radio transmission
frequency on the tape was caused by a high
intensity electromagnetic field as in a UFO. The
Americans used a UFO to get there Ro-ertson says.
A man in the audience said that he was a
technical person in Scientology/the Sea Org. He
had degrees in mathematics and physics and
civil engineering - docks, air****ts, railroads,
buildings. He had a N-SA scholar****p to be
in a space structures organization to build
space-platforms and space****ps for the American
government. He noticed the next year's students
had disappeared, so he got out of it. He read
the Alternative 3 book by Leslie W-tkins and
knew they were taken away, working somewhere
else.
  Robe-tson spoke of more than one group of
extra terrestrials interested in this planet,
who had mostly peaceful intentions to develop
relations with this planet but we were to
dispose of a-omic, biological and chemical
weapons. The friendly ones are holding back
and merely observing, plus this planet has no
obvious leader. Many through (Scientology etc.)
auditing, have recognized that they have lived
on other planets before, in other lives and
may have i-carnated to help the rehabilitation
of this planet and its place in the galactic
scheme of things, but have been here a long
time. They then realize their purpose through
training and want to fulfill their destiny in
bringing earth back into a more universal role.
This probably means finding out the roles and
who is relegated for what purpose. By
determining the truth of who everyone 'really'
is - as in being active elsewhere on other
planets and also who everyone else 'really' is.
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Part 4.

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Do Germany And Russia Have Space Crafts?
April 17, 2008. Part 5 of 5.

  This talks about the underground operations at
Dulce. I do know Bill Hami-ton well on the Internet
and he does, IMHO, tell the truth.


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  BILL H-MILTON ON DULCE UNDERGROUND ALIEN BASE
  Bill Ha-ilton did OT 3 in Scientology about
1970 and he's been expelled. A few years ago
Bill R-bertson took him the very first Sector 9
issues, so his viewpoint is more from a planetary
and intergalactic scenario. Ham-lton summarizes
everything that he found out as follows: The
Dulce New Mexico underground base has UFOs seen
in the area every night. Cattle have been
mutilated, cut with a laser-knife.  This
information comes from people working at the base,
who were kidnapped or abducted and taken there
and then released. Also people who helped to
construct it and people who were working with
the i-telligence community there. The facility
is a bio-genetics lab and is connected to Los
Alamos by underground, the first site of the
atom bombs experiments. It's always been a high
s-curity research area for the US G-vernment.
He says there's an underground connection by
subway or tube shuttle to the Los Alamos. OK.
The research there is about genetics and
research into also other intelligent species
and the comparison between human and alien
biology. Hami-ton says that their research
indicates centuries ago, that the aliens
that entered into a contract with a s-cret
group called the I-luminati. The Sector 9
Scientology book names one of the chief
implanters: someone that works in se-ret
to control you mentally was Adam W-ishaupt -
the founder of the Il-uminati in Germany.
   ALIENS WELCOMED HERE, BECAUSE THEY
ORIGINATE FROM EARTH
  The U-ited States Go-ernment entered into
a contract with the aliens in the 40's/50's
or earlier, to exchange high technology
research with to give animals and humans to
the aliens.  At the end of the 40's the alien
operations ****fted from South America, to
the Un-ted States west, because of this
agreement that was made with the US
Go-ernment.  The aliens wanted these
underground bases and because of the
magnetic and plasma effects of some of the
minerals of the rocks in that area were
vital for them. They have to have something
that produces a high electromagnetic energy
field for their saucers, so they need the
raw materials for that to keep things going.
  Hamil-on says these people who worked there
said that the aliens themselves regard
themselves as an old people who originally
came from Earth - they were human/reptilian
hybrids. They told the US gove-nment this
and are representatives of an alien nation
and are returning to earth to use it for a
staging/operations area but didn't reveal
what for exactly.
  But other aliens do not agree about this.
They built in alien bases in Dulce, Colorado,
Arizona, Nevada others in US, others in the
rest of the world, maybe in Antarctica,
Russia, Pyrenees, upper Norway etc.. There
have been some very strange underground
projects being done costing billions. In
1947 the residents of Dulce saw many many
troops going in and out of the area, many
many trucks and construction equipment and
that the signs on the trucks were from a
non existent lumber company in Colorado.
  The bases were constructed by the R-nd
Cor****ation with a tunnelboring machine
that melts the rock and then makes a
smooth wall out of it for high speed
shuttles to be put in. Hamilt-n
says that there are over 100 of these
sec-et underground places that have been
constructed including one on the back of the
Moon, another on Mars.
  DULCE - SELF CONTAINED MIND CONTROL AND
GENETIC EXPERIMENT CENTER
  This is from the people who worked there.
A construction man was asked to work at Dulce
but needed to agree to chemical erasure of
memory first when he finished, so he refused.
Hamilto- said other construction companies
involved were Ae-ospace Companies and B-gtell
Cor****ation - well connected with the C-A.
They are linked up with the T-ilateral
Commission, the power behind the go-ernment,
with Kis-inger and the Il-uminati and also
the Council of F-reign Relation people in
Europe, known as the Bi-derbergers. They
tell elected officials what to do.
  Dulce has at least 7 different underground
levels, and there are about 18,000 aliens
down there and probably 10,000 or so humans.
  Level one has the control room with s-curity
and communications. There are over 3000
televisions and spy cameras around this.
Then human staff housing. Executive offices
and laboratories for scientists etc.. Level
4 has mind control experiments on humans.
Level 5 is the alien housing for the grays
etc. Level 6 has genetic large scale
experiments to change human beings
genetically to enable work in dangerous
environments such as radioactivity, outer
space and maybe even under water and that
is also a zoo. They have the experiments,
the results of the experiments in cages
down there. On level 7 they have cryogenic
laboratories - cold storage vats for the
failed experiments.
           CLONES ALL OVER
  Robertson said everything was apparently
as written by L Ron Hubbard and as revealed by
their Scientology auditing. An implanter is
a person who tries to control you mentally or
by inserting things into your body to control
you. Genetic manipulations, but all sec-et.
The Tril-teral insignia, a b-ack triangle on a
red background, is for the Andromedans,
because the gray aliens that the nations of
the world have made an agreement with,
including the US- are from Andromeda, the
next galaxy. The pyramid with the eye in it
is the Illu-inati symbol and is the Dulce
base symbol. Genetic experiments have been
perfected to the degree that we already
have a disposable s-ave r-ce of clones. From
a small foetus, they make many copies of
the same thing and have no parents so the
Govern-ent owns them. Adult human beings
looking exactly alike Maybe 6 or 7 of them
all together have been seen all the same.
  There are maybe hundreds and they worked in
the mil-tary only. When starting this the
Am-rican gov-rnment asked women to do
experiments in genetics, if they were sterile.
And then they would remove the fetus after
3 months, take it back to the lab here and
grow it up in a controlled environment in
the experiment. But what they put into the
womb of the woman may have been some cross
between an alien and a human or 5 or 6 clones.
They had to develop it for 3 months in a
woman so they could then pick it up into
their laboratory technology.
        BRAIN IMPLANTS FOR MIND CONTROL
  The D-fense Advanced Research Project Agency
set up the mind control experiments to control
humans and some of the products of their labs
at a distance. Some had transmitters taken out
of their heads and photographed them or had
them X-rayed still in there. They were
experimented on outside the lab to see how they
could be controlled in society. In Dulce it is
easier to control all of them because it is a
very closed area. There are radio transmitters
there right through all the areas. But they
used to have to follow people initially with
transmitting devices from country to country.
It is called RHIC-EDOM. Radio Hypnotic
Intercerebral Control - (in the middle of the
cerebral areas of the brain. When you radio
transmit it you can hear the vibrations or the
words or the thoughts coming through.)
  Electronic Dissolution Of Memory is requested
when asked to sign the contract for Dulce.
Chemical erasure of memory or an electronic one.
  In Sweden they put them in people in hospitals,
or old people's homes or to criminals. They'd
d-ug the coffee in the jail and put one in to
keep track, without permission. Oluf P-lme gave
permission in, when was it 73/74 to insert
brain transmitters into the heads of humans
covertly without telling them. This was done
in US, Russia and Finland too.
        THEY THINK THEY ARE G-DS
   The C-A, F-I, D-A are "The Sec-et
Governm-nt" with the C-R and the Tri-ateral
Commission and they are planning to stage
an alien contact landing in the near future.
Meeting them openly but it's just a show.
  With genetic research on Level 6, they say
it's the most im****tant thing that humanity's
been working on for a long time. Taking a
single human embryo, bringing it up in the
laboratory to a full formed whatever all
the way through.
  They don't need a woman anymore to do it.
The scientists think of all the endless
possibilities e.g "We can create our own
ra-e." All the files from the experimental
laboratories in Nazi Germany were captured by
the Americans and they started on their
implant program. They don't want you to know
you have a sp-rit (or 'thetan' as
Scientologists say) so that you can be
controlled by genetic and mind control
experiments without your spi-it stopping it,
like a clone. One person that worked at Dulce
saw human-alien and human-animal combinations
in cages alive. People or humans with wings,
many legs, claws for hands or different webbed
feet etc. There were crosses between various
species of animals in the experimental
laboratories and the zoo. Many of them could cry
tears and ask for help in Earth language. The
workers were told that these people were
insane and genetic freaks and not to talk to
them that they were involved in high dru-
experiments to cure their i-sanity.  The
people first believed this. But they were
dru-ged to be quiet. Before they let the man
out the top here they have to erase his
memory, however it didn't always work and
some of them had recall under hypnotism.

Part 5 of 5.

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Howard Mengers Experience.     April 15, 2008.

  I had the op****tunity meeting and talking with Howard
Menger at a UFO people's convention in Phoenix, Arizona.
  I found him to be a truthful person.

........................................................
........................................................

  And now from another Timothy Good book, ALIEN BASE:
             INSIDE THE SPACECRAFT
  The following evening, [Howard] Menger was taken on
board one of the spacecraft for the first time; a short
hop from one of the landing sites to another.
  Just before entering the craft, one of the spacemen
pointed an instrument at Menger and a BLUISH BEAM OF
LIGHT struck his head, producing a rather pleasant
tingling sensation.
  "We projected the beam on you to condition and
process your body quickly so you could enter the
craft," Menger was told.
  "What actually happened was that the beam changed
your body frequency to equal that of the craft. Thus
you felt entirely comfortable inside the craft and
suffered no ill effects."
            HOWARD MENGER WRITES:
  We stepped into a large circular room. In the center
of it was an ample-sized round table made of
translucent material. Under the table-top, pulsating
lights of many colors moved. The dowel-shaped stem
sup****ting the table was set in what appeared to be a
huge magnifying  glass, itself set into the floor.
Approximately one third of the circular room was
devoted to INSTRUMENT PANELS containing many colored
lights blinking on and off. In front of the control
board was a frame containing what I guessed was some
kind of VIEWING SCREEN.
                    THE VOICE
  "The HULL has a field about it which REPELS all other
matter [shells/bullets fired at it]. Your physicists
would describe the force involved as the "anti"
particle of the binding energy of the atom.
  When certain elements such as platinum are properly
prepared and treated with a saturation exposure to a
beam of very high-energy photons, the anti-binding
energy particle will be generated outside of the
nucleus.
  Since these particles tend to REPEL each other, as
well as all other matter, they like the electron tend
to migrate to the surface of the metal where they
manifest as a REPELLENT FORCE. Perhaps you noticed that
the HULL seemed unusually smooth and slippery. That is
because your flesh did NOT ACTUALLY COME INTO CONTACT
WITH THE METAL, but was held a short distance from it
by the REPULSION of the field.
  We use the FIELD TO PROTECT THE HULL from being
scratched or damaged [or attacked] during landings.
It also lowers air friction greatly when it becomes
necessary to travel at high speed through any
atmosphere.
  The field produces an almost perfect laminar flow
of air or any gas about  the craft, and little
heat is generated or transmitted to the hull."
  And lastly, from yet another of Timothy Good's
fine books, BEYOND TOP S-CRET:
                 INSIDE THE CRAFT
  Each of the rooms that was occupied had
INSTRUMENT PANELS on the walls, with the [alien]
crew members concentrating on the instruments.
  Some rooms had four or five instruments, others
had 15 or 20, but they were of a similar type in
each room. They were NOTHING LIKE OURS. There
were no screens, such as our oscilloscopes. They
had meters, but I could not see dials on them. He
said they lit up only when in use.
  Sid P-drick was shown an oblong lens, which he
took to be part of a VIEWING SYSTEM, with a
magnified three-dimensional effect. He [the
alien] told me that the power source [of the
craft he was in] was  transferred to them from
the other craft, and that it did all of the
navigation and manipulation through space. He
told me they don't measure time and distance as
we know it, but rather in terms of light. When
I asked him how fast they travelled through
space, he answered that their speed was limited
only by the speed at which they could transfer
their energy source.

             THE AZTEC CASE

  According to Otto K-ause, there were no
survivors from the craft which  crashed near
Aztec. "All the bodies inside were dead," Alfred
told me.
  "The one at Aztec is the one they gained the
technology from...."
  Further information on what seems almost
certainly to have been the Aztec crash has been
provided by a former m-litary o-ficer to the
reliable researcher, Chuck O-dham. While
stationed at a certain base, the officer's
special s-curity clearance enabled him to gain
ACCESS TO A RE-TRICTED LIBRARY, where he studied
a file describing the retrieval of an alien craft
and its dead occupants.
  The aliens found inside were described as
beings like us, but smaller.
  Two of the bodies were badly charred, though
the clothing --  1-piece flight suits woven with
a type of fabric with a tensile strength of
800 lbs/in -- was unaffected.
  No reference to the craft's propulsion system
was made in the re****t other than that technology
utilizing MAGNETIC or GRAVITATIONAL FIELDS was
involved.
  "They use the natural magnetic lines of a
planet and a gravity field to move their ****ps
from one place to another," the officer
explained to Chuck Ol-ham. "That's how they are
able to MAKE NEAR RIGHT-ANGLE TURNS."
  It was speculated that the aliens were able
to cross greater distances of space within a
much shorter time than we thought possible. The
re****t further speculated that this craft (and
others) had come to grief due to "magnetic
faults" located in the areas where the crashes had
occurred.
  WHERE DO THEY COME FROM and WHY ARE THEY HERE?
  I believe that Man's progress on planet Earth
has been monitored by beings whose technological
and mental resources make ours look primitive
and theirs "supernatural" by comparison. The
fact that some of the visitors are similar to
us physiologically suggests that we share a
genetic link. Could it be that some of them
have had a hand in our e-olution?
  Now that our technology has reached the
stage where we are endangering the planet and
expanding our exploration of space, [UFO]
surveillance has intensified.
  Is it mere coincidence that the modern wave
of sightings began during the Second World W-r
s we began developing n-clear weapons and
rockets? Is it also coincidental that UFOs
have exhibited so much interest in our NU-LEAR
MISSILE SITES and have demonstrated their
ability to paralyze launching systems?
  Until we wake up to the fact that information
of quite unprecedented and profound significance
is being withheld from us, we shall continue to
remain in ignorance....
  THE DAY AFTER ROSWELL: A FORMER P-NTAGON
OFFICIAL REVEALS THE U.S. G-VERNMENT's SHOCKING
UFO COVER-UP – By Col Philip J C-rso, ISBN#
0671004611, 341 pp., pp. 47, 89-90, 95, 97,
98-99, 100-102, 108-110, 195-96
  ALIEN LIAISON: THE ULTIMATE SEC-ET  By Timothy
Good, ISBN#  0712621946, 242 pp., pp. 10, 65,
115-16, 204
  ALIEN BASE: EARTH's ENCOUNTERS WITH
EXTRATERRESTRIALS  By Timothy Good, ISBN#
0712678123, 419 pp., pp. 59, 183
  BEYOND TOP SE-RET: THE WORLDWIDE UFO
SE-URITY THREAT  By Timothy Good,
ISBN# 0283062452, 606 pp., pp. 367-68,
494-95, 536
  To discuss this release on the Open
Minds Forum, please
http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com
/index.cgi?board=projectserpo&amp;action=
display&amp;thread=1188221738"

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 




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