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by "John Winston" <johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 23, 2008 at 01:51 PM

Subject: Have You Ever Seen A Shaman? April 18, 2008.

  Here we have a person who claims to be a Shaman
explaining what a Shaman is.

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  What is a Shaman?
  Introduction
  I am using the word shaman because of its
popularity: shamans have their own names for
themselves depending on their background and
location.
  I call myself kupua, which is a Hawaiian
word for a shaman found among the traditions
of Polynesia. A kupua focuses on the essence
of a tool rather than it's ritual.
  There are many definitions of shamanism,
but few mention the core of shamanistic belief
that I learned from my teachers. Most
definitions describe what shamans do rather
than what shamans believe.
  Shamans use whatever tools they know that
seem appropriate for the circumstances. A
listing of these tools doesn't constitute
a precise meaning of the limits and
uniqueness of shamanism.
  Almost all books on shamanism, both
scholarly works and popular books written
by "shamans", are about shaman tools and
descriptions of so-called shamanistic
ideas are presented in a very
unshamanistic way: shaman ideas are
described as if shamans believed them.
  This limited view of shamanism is
understandable since shamans, when talking
to non-shamans and beginning students,
avoid frustrating attempts to discuss the
unreality of reality.
  Much nonsense has been written about
shamanism. To quote just a few of many
examples: "The basis of shamanism is an
animistic view of nature"; "The main
principle of shamanism is the attempt
to control physical nature"; "A shaman
uses symbolic m-gic and a form of
feti****sm [where power rests in the
power of the shaman and rather than the
object]".
  Observations like these are based on a
confusion between what a shaman "believes"
and what a shaman decides will be
effective in a certain circumstance in
one particular moment. Animism, used in
the sense of the belief that "s-irits"
are everywhere is different than using
a useful tool where the shaman is merely
acting as if everything has a sp-ritual
nature.
  A warrior shaman may act as if he is
controlling "physical nature" (whatever that
is), but to a shaman who is more than an
apprentice, that is only a game: the belief
is unim****tant only the results are im****tant.
  And finally, to a shaman, symbolic ma-ic
and fetishes are only tools, not statements
about reality.
  A popular scholarly viewpoint is, "A shaman
enters altered states of consciousness and
travels to other realms." A shaman may even
actually say this if he is using the terms
of a scholar's view of reality: "altered
states" and "other realms" appear to be
reasonable terms to a person who believes
that "ordinary" reality is one thing and
"non-ordinary" reality is another; and that
each can be described as an absolute thing. A
shaman's world is filled with a sense of the
actuality of that world, but in a way that is
both the same and the opposite of a dictionary
definition of the word "reality".
  Philosophers have struggled with questions of
reality throughout history. And every time
someone fancied he was getting close, there have
been other philosophers lurking in the shadows,
ready to gleefully discover assumptions beneath
the original assumptions: philosophy had an
informal "peer-review" thousands of years
before it became fa****onable in science (with
all its virtues and faults), although a
scientific peer-review is never concerned with
basic assumptions about reality after
centuries of labor even philosophers seldom
find that a worthwhile path.
  Some shamanic ideas are found in expected
and unexpected places. Some of these ideas
make sense to many people the ideas sometimes
"feel" right and they sometimes seem to agree
with experience. I have often read that a
"kahuna" is a "Hawaiian shaman". (JW  I once
had an o****tunity to go the Hawaii on a vacation.
I had previously read a lot about the Kahunas
of Hawaii. The first thing I did while over there
was to go to a M-taphysical Book Store and ask
how I might come in contact with a Kahuna.  The
people running the store didn't think I would be
able to accomplish this on a short notice but
did give me the area where Kahunas were said to
have been seen.  I went out to the area by car
with my friends but they didn't want to get
out, so I didn't meet any Kahuna.) There are
and were kahuna shamans, but they are two
distinct traditions. There were Druids
also that were shamans, but in both cases
they were rare. And, as might be guessed,
there were (and are) shamans in Polynesia
and Celtic areas that are not kahuna or
druids. A shaman is a healer but there are
few shamans among healers; today and even
in the distant past.
  Collections of ideas like "huna", or
whatever anyone prefers to call the Hawaiian
esoteric tradition, have some shamanistic
ideas, but like similar traditions around
the world, are not shamanism. Shamanic ideas
are found in works like the B-ble, the
Kalevala, some Star Trek Television episodes,
among many other works. What separates these
works from shamanism is that the ideas are
perceived and presented as The Way Things Are,
while a shaman views All ideas as simply
useful or interesting. A shaman treats
beliefs as tools.
  In this discussion, I describe shaman tools
only as they relate to shaman ideas. I have
chosen to present shaman ideas in an
unshamanistic way since I am trying to define
shamanism, not write about how to become a
shaman. Definitions are all made up. That
should be obvious to everybody, yet some
people imagine they have solved a problem
when they've stuck a label on something or
someone ("Understanding is the key.").
Definitions are not statements of reality,
they are tools of communication.
  If I were writing a formal article on
philosophy, I would have defined some
statements more precisely. But since I am
writing a definition of shamanism, I didn't
want to obscure their general meaning by
adding hundreds of words of explanation.
Other statements I have added for their
emotional effect: I describe shaman ideas
by choosing words that will offend as many
people as possible a reaction to words
can start a person thinking through a
desire to prove the author is talking
obvious nonsense.
  Yet, behind the words, the ideas
themselves are the fundamental core of
shamanism, I just hope shamans from other
traditions will still be able to recognize
their own ideas after I have reduced them
to their essential meaning! If you ask a
bunch of shamans what a shaman is, you will
get a bunch of answers. I am trying to
condense the essence all of those answers to
a common core.
  I also hope to show you a way of looking
at things that you may find helpful. A
viewpoint that is not just a way of looking
at shamanism, but one that may increase the
peace and effectiveness in your life.
  I worked as a systems analyst for over 25
years. During most of that time I called
myself a shaman. I became aware of how
close and related the study of the nature of
systems is to the study of shaman ideas. That's
why I have chosen this peculiar approach.
  However, shamanism isn't an intellectual
exercise: it's a game involving body, mind,
and heart. We base our world on what we have
experienced; it isn't created by logic.
Years ago, Napoleon Hill wrote a book read
by millions called "Think and Grow Rich".
(JW  I read that book many years ago and enjoyed
it very much.)  If he had known, he would
have written a more useful book called "Feel
and Grow Rich".
  Many shamans play a game of developing
power and insight through conflict and control
of personified things (the so-called way of the
warrior). Other shamans act as if power and
insight can best be achieved through love and
cooperation. These shamans de-personify things
and work with the effects of things and
conditions (what I call the way of harmony).
  If a person tries to learn about shamanism
by studying what a shaman does, many things
will seem to be inconsistent and illogical,
especially if the person is a product of
Western thought. On the other hand, I have met
shamans (who may or may not call themselves
that) who do not have a clear conscious idea
of the core beliefs of a shaman, but are
successful at applying their own unconscious
core beliefs. Calling yourself a shaman doesn't
make you one. A shaman isn't created by some
sort of "initiation" or recognition or
acknowledgment, or by experiencing some "state
of consciousness".
  "Shaman" isn't a title or a state of being, it
is a skill.
  What is a Shaman?
  Exploration
  Thousands of years ago someone looked at his
or her beliefs and reduced them to a few
"self-evident" core beliefs about the world. A
person's world view is the collection of all
the logical (and illogical) extensions of these
self-evident "facts". Mathematicians call this
an "axiomatic system".
  The vast majority of these axioms and
extensions are taught to us: some by other
people, some by the "world" we perceive
around us. Some are our own ideas. The
extensions are ideas "about" things, not
"what is".
  But in every case we made a choice along
the way to accept or reject them: we are
responsible for who we are.
  No one can prove their own axioms to anyone
else if the other person has a different set of
axioms.
  With an axiomatic system, by its very nature,
the best that we can hope for is to make it
"internally" consistent and "internally"
complete. In practice, this only works for
relatively limited systems.
  When we try to make inferences "external" to
the system, we are no longer in the realm of
logic. This is a frequent problem, since it is
difficult to notice when we are crossing the
edge, we then start questioning the
intelligence of someone who disagrees with us.

Part 1.

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Have You Ever Seen A Shaman?  Part 2.
April 19, 2008.

  This discusses the statement that you can't
disprove a negative.

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  Our beliefs are what we consider possible ("what
is"). So "all" that "is" is our world view. This
"defines" and "limits" our personal universe. We
all can conceive a universe beyond what is, but
"only" with our imagination. We perceive what is
possible, with maybe a big or little m-racle or
two thrown in along the way. For some people,
mi-acles happen because of our limited knowledge
(delusion), Television would have seemed a mir-cle
in the 19th century. Others see mira-les as
Divine Intervention. But in both cases they seem
like mira-les because they are beyond our ideas
of what is normal.
  The limits of our ideas about "what is" limit
our perception on a very basic level; those
perceptions are "within" the scope of "what is".
  We perceive what is real and that realness
allows us to deduce what is. It all goes around
in a circle.
  The problem with assuming these "self-evident"
assumptions are THE TRUTH is that, if these
axioms and ideas "Determine" our world view,
our perceptions and observations will "prove"
the underlying TRUTH.
  In other words, our axioms determine our
world view; our world view determines our
perceptions. If it looks like an elephant,
walks like an elephant and feels like an
elephant, it must be an elephant!
  If someone says, "But, look at the world out
there, it looks real to me!" That person is
starting to think like a shaman!
  Shamanism isn't about trying to prove that
rationality is unachievable.
  Or about proving that our beliefs determine
and confirm our world, that's unnecessary: the
shaman "acts" as if there "are" "no" proofs".
The problem for someone who has a Rational
view of the world is to prove that what we
experience "isn't" a result of our beliefs,
No "self-evident" truths allowed!  You can't
prove or disprove an assumption with another
assumption. Inductive logic doesn't help here
either, since we are talking about the basis
for perception itself. If you can't "disprove"
this, you can't "logically" say the world is
such and such, Or even say the world "out
there" is out there.
  If you decide to ignore this challenge and
still masquerade as a Rational Man, that's
okay with me, if you are not ashamed of
convincing yourself with voodoo.
  But, "You can't prove a negative." Who
knows where this college freshman, "law of
logic" folklore originated. Certainly not
from the logisticians. The "Law" is probably
a confusion of the saying that you can't
Inductively prove something doesn't exist
because you can't prove you know everything
about everything ("negative existential
judgements").
  If you can't prove a negative, then the
negative logical statement "You can't prove
a negative." is unprovable. So it's an
illogical thing to say.
  (Actually, every negative statement entails
a positive, so there are no purely negative
logical statements.) Anyway, I am not asking
anyone to "prove a negative" I am only saying
that no one can call himself a rationalist
without "disproving" that our beliefs determine
our world.
  Why should you waste your time answering a
trick question when all you have to do is
look around and see that the world obviously
doesn't work that way? You won't be the first
person who has been able to reconcile
incompatible beliefs; shamans do it all the
time; humans have a talent for it; but a
shaman is aware of doing it.
  Until a Rational Man has disproved this,
he can't "honestly" call himself a rational
man. He can't intellectually hold a rational
view of the world. Each `Thinking' person `Must'
ask "Am I being intellectually honest with
myself or am I only blindly following the
Doctrine of some unnamed C-urch of Rational
Thought?" `Anyone' who takes a rational view
of the world without disproving that our beliefs
determine and confirm our world is living in a
dream world.
  A shaman says exactly that: the world is a dream.
Everyone has to take his or her axioms on `FAITH'
that's all we have there are no other options even
for people who dislike the word faith.
  If our axioms are accepted on faith, there is
no difference between "reasoned" faith and blind
faith: there is only blind faith. If you prefer
to call it reasonable faith, that's okay, but
recognize it for what it is: an emotional
preference. Many people say that blind faith is
the only desirable kind. Others feel the very
nature of man allows us to pick the true
assumptions (the world out there is really
there and we can know it), that may well be,
but that is another assumption.
  Although I am using the term "belief" in
its intellectual sense, a shaman often views
reality as if it is the result of our beliefs,
expectations, intention, desire, focus, love
and fear. I am not just presenting the idea
that our beliefs "create our reality". I am
simply implying that it is often effective
to view the world as if it is the result of a
few primary Causes. Practically all non-shamans
focus on a bunch of Effects and call that
"The World".
  A shaman is not saying this is the way
things are. He is only saying that some things
are more im****tant than what he believed
yesterday or what he will believe tomorrow.
In describing shaman beliefs I am not saying
the world isn't what you think it is. A
shaman friend of mine says it this way: "The
world is what you think it is." All I am
saying is we may have to admit the
possibility that at some time in our life we may
have accepted some of our ideas without
sufficient proof (actually, I am talking about
`all' of our ideas, of course.) A corollary
might be: give people a break when we disagree
with them they may not be stupid, but just
working with different assumptions. Judgement
is an emotional reaction, not a sign of
superiority.
  Of course this way of thinking can lead to
belief in Nothing (nihilism). But the shaman
doesn't travel down that path. The shaman says
that things are actually very real for the
person who believes they are real and that
personal reality is `not in any way inferior' or
less desirable' or `less "real" than some
"Cosmic Truth". Is there such a thing as Cosmic
Truth beyond personal truth? You are free to
decide, based on what you emotionally feel
comfortable with.
  If something is real for us, we will think
and experience and act in a way that reflects
that reality. The shaman decides not to play
the game of "What is Really going on?" since
the answer depends on faith. He accepts reality
based on his faith along with his power to
change his mind when he feels like it.
  If all this seems too simplistic to be true,
consider that it `is' simple and that the
concept pertains to all "knowledge": no matter
how complex our perceptions of reality and
how those perceptions agree with our other
perceptions, who can say that they are
independent of our beliefs? Who can say what
a perception actually is anyway, independent
of other perceptions? Any definition of the
concept of perception itself is based on a
logical process starting from a set of
assumptions.
  If all this violates common sense and goes
against the way you feel things are (faith),
try kicking a box with a hidden brick inside
and say, as Samuel Johnson once said, "I
disprove it thus!"
  Lobachevski, Riemann, and other
mathematicians demonstrated alternatives to
Euclidean geometry and mathematically proved
that there is no way to choose between them.
It wasn't just geometry that was affected.
The problem goes beyond the question: Is
Euclidean geometry true? Or is Riemann
geometry true? It asks: If there is no way to
choose, how can we know what is real?
  Poincaré gave a shamanistic answer: the
question has no meaning. All of our concepts
are only `convenient' definitions, some more
interesting than others. Einstein, in true
shamanic fa****on, chose Riemann geometry to
describe space… and space complied.
  All this won't come as a surprise to many
people: it can all be gleaned from any college
course in Philosophy of Science even though
most scientists think this is a lot of hog
wash (if they have thought about it at all),
they, and most other people, have an `emotional'
attachment to their World View. It gives them
stability and power. Shamans don't take things
so seriously, they are comfortable in a
changing world because they don't rely on it:
they find power from within.
  I don't want to give the impression that
shamans are anti-science. Actually I suspect
most shamans have always viewed scientists as
kindred s-irits and look on science as a
fascinating and useful game. A game with
arbitrary fixed methods and rules (from a
shaman's point of view) such as repeatability,
double-blind experiments, `reducio ad absurdum',
etc. If you are playing a game of chess and
decide to make any move you want, you may have
fun, but you are no longer playing chess. The
game of science has its place in the scheme of
things and its Basic rules Have changed over
its history and (hopefully) will continue to
evolve.

Part 2.

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Have You Ever Seen A Shaman?       Part 3.
April 19, 2008.

  This talks about how new ideas are brouht forth.

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  Since we have chosen to play the scientific game,
most of the time we have to sail in safe waters in
order to return to our familiar ****t.
  Psychiatrists used to lock up people who
ventured into unknown waters and lost their way
back, now they give them d-ugs to deaden their
awareness (put their brain chemicals back in
"balance" and allow them to "cope").
  Most of us seem to have a fear of sailing into
the uncharted sea of irrationality. Author Robert M.
Pirsig called it flat earth reasoning, "If you
sail too far, you'll fall off the edge!", it's
scary stuff.
  Logic can be one of our most valuable tools. If
you are playing a game, it is often useful to
follow the rules. It's not hard to find people who
expound theories that are inconsistent or
incomplete `within the axiomatic system they are
using'. There is no law that says you can't use
your head. To scientists, logic is crucial to the
game. They don't have much sympathy for those
who don't use their heads. Some scientists see
p-eudo-scientific theories as a dire threat to
the well being of an ignorant misguided public
that needs to be protected from Nonsense before
damage is done. The damage sometimes happens,
but the scientist's emotional response is
weakened by his lack of understanding of the
basic assumptions behind his "facts". The shaman
is trained to play with assumptions and can't
help looking for assumptions behind a logical (or
illogical) statement.
  One tenet of the scientific method that
scientists sometimes try to follow is to not
decide on an answer before you start suspecting
an answer is different than expecting an
answer. This isn't practical for a shaman since
he pretends that beliefs precede perception.
Science takes a conservative approach to
phenomena. Something is suspect until the
mechanism for its existence is known. This
helps eliminate "false" data and places the
burden of proof on the observer. It also
tends to eliminate innovative ideas.
  I won't insult your intelligence by
pointing out the obvious logical flaws in
such pop-science homilies as "Occam's Razor",
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary
evidence", etc. (as they are usually applied).
You can find many discussions exposing the
fallacies of these ps-udo-scientific methods
if you care to look.
  A shaman doesn't take these recreational
scientific games seriously: explanations are
only models, shamans are interested more in
the value something has.
  How fast a belief becomes generally accepted
depends on the generally accepted authority of
the people who already hold the new belief. The
acceptance usually starts within the scope of
a specialized field and spreads out from there.
  If an unusual phenomenon is observed by more
and more people, belief in it may increase
until the normal world view includes the
phenomenon. (JW  An example of this is the fact
that people now believe that this world is round.
In the past people just knew that the world was
flat. A lot of people were put to d-ath for
trying to bring out that point.  Another example
is that people used to say that the Sun comes
up in the morning, when in actuality the Sun
doesn't come up, it stays relatively still and
the Earth rotates so it looks like the Sun
comes up. The last example that most of you will
not believe is that the Sun has planets inside
of it.  These planets affect the Sun spot activity
during the 11 year cycles that come about.  These
planets have people on them.  At least two to
these people came to Earth in the past and were
instrumental in establi****ng the Japanese ra-e of
people. We'll just have to wait around and see
if those facts are ever accepted as being true.)
  Many years ago people just knew it was Science
can then stop rejecting the unusual observation
and start explaining it in ordinary ways.
"Obviously, the world was that way all along."
History is a handy tool for confirming our
beliefs.
  A shaman realizes these ideas about the way
the world works are only arbitrary points of
view. A self-proclaimed Rational Man has no
difficulty devising other explanations. We
choose different viewpoints based on emotions
("It feels right") or faith ("It IS")  Unless,
of course, you are the first Rational Man in
history who has honesty answered my challenge
and has disproved the shaman's whimsical
point of view that what we experience is a
result of our beliefs.
  A shaman is the ultimate practical person
since he has no emotional attachment to his
ideas: a shaman will use any method that
produces the desired result. It's the results
that count, not some S-cred Method. But note,
one of the many meanings of the Hawaiian word
"pono" is harmony. It implies that the means
determine the end (not - the end justifies the
means!): if you want a peaceful loving outcome,
use peaceful loving means.
  What the shaman thousands of years ago did
with this understanding of belief systems was
subtle and surprising: if our belief system is
unprovable, can we change our core beliefs
and Construct another world view?
  Once the shaman gets over the psychological
block that "this is somehow cheating", the
shaman finds it is possible to change one's
world view. The first shaman probably went no
further than this; changed to another world
view and stayed in that other world.
  Some time in the e-olution of shamanism
someone observed that different world views
have different advantages, some belief systems
are more effective under some conditions than
other systems.' This shaman may have asked
something like, "Would it be 'cheating' if
I were to change world views based on how
effectively they accomplish what I want to
do?"
  This person was the first true shaman'
Don't get the idea that a shaman is
"pretending", although this can be a good
way to start in a desired direction.
Pretending is a power of the intellect to
get results, the shaman must `Know' in the
present moment that the world is really "this
way".
  To the shaman this isn't just an intellectual
exercise if our beliefs determine our perception
of the world, then those perceptions obviously
are' what is "out there". The concrete
unchanging world changes in step with the
accepted thoughts of the people who make up
that world.
  Surprising new discoveries don't reveal
previously hidden facts about the world, they
reveal a ****ft in beliefs. If the concrete
unchanging world, as we KNOW it to be, proves
our world view, who can tell the difference
between a view of the world and the real world
"out there"?
  We build a Model or we accept someone else's
model and make it part of ourselves. We don't
recognize the model for what it is, just a model.
We confuse it with "reality". The model acquires
a life of its own and we build logical
skyscrapers on a mound of "facts". Sometimes
the results can be tragic: the Inquisition
had the glorious goal of saving a person's
Immortal S-ul at the expense of that person's
unim****tant mortal body.
  Sometimes the result only affects ourselves.
Sometimes we accept the teachings of people who
sound Wise when they talk or write about their
own logical skyscrapers. The teaching, whether
tem****al or sp-ritual, may have its own share
of wisdom, but it's only a model.
  To a shaman, reality is what we make it to
be. A shaman will accept a particular reality
at some particular moment, but a part of
himself will retain the view that it is only
a model. He is then able to view that reality
from a more universal point of view. A shaman
looks at things in a relativistic way. This
can widen his viewpoint and allow him to
discover assumptions hidden from a person who
looks at his beliefs in an absolute way. This
viewpoint has the advantage of helping the
shaman perceive the value and limitation of
that model. It allows him to substitute aspects
of other models into his current model without
shame.
  Jainism has a technique that someone
described as "peeling away the layers of an
onion": ask "Who am I?"; answer, "I am ";
then  "I am not that!"; ask again; ever
getting closer to the core. Try looking for
the assumptions behind one of your beliefs;
reduce the assumptions to a few core beliefs;
then look at your surface belief with new
understanding.
  You may be surprised.
  Things that start with "The" are not
shamanistic ways of thinking.
  Sometimes these things are described as
"The Law of "... Thermodynamics, K-rma, etc.
The law is logical and useful or people
wouldn't bother with it. But to a shaman it
is limiting. It involves placing power outside
of yourself and makes you more helpless: "It
is The Law and since that is the way things
are', we have to work with it."
  "But something either exists or doesn't
exist, right? There are no other options."
If this seems reasonable, perhaps you need to
become more aware of your world view. Not all
questions can be answered yes or no. An
indeterminate question can have a value of
its own.
  A shaman tries to become more effective by
increasing his ability to use inner power. To
a shaman, the source of inner power is
infinite and abundantly available to everyone.
We don't need to increase or "build up"
something that is infinite, we need to discover
our freedom to consciously use it. Power is
the ability to accomplish something. In
physics, it is the rate of doing work. For a
shaman, it is an `Effect' of confidence and
authority. The Hawaiian word for this is
"mana", a word that is often confused with
"energy". A better, common meaning of "mana"
is "d-vine power", not in the J-deo-C-ristian
sense, but in the sense that everything is
di-ine. It's only a definition and all
definitions are only attempts to avoid
confusion.

Part 3.

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Have You Ever Seen A Shaman?      Part 4 of 4.
April 20, 2008.

  This talks about Ki.

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  Work is the effort applied in accompli****ng
something: force is applied to transfer energy. We
transfer energy with our intent and focus. Energy is
the strength or capacity to do work. In Hawaiian,
the words "ki" or "ti" have an inner meaning of
energy. Compare the word "ki" to the Japanese word "ki"
or the Chinese word "chi". Polynesian kupua (shamans)
thought of "ki" in a way similar to what some people
call "life force". To physicists, energy, force, work,
and power are related to each other as a result of
these interactions, and the universe is the result of
a small number of metaphors they call primary "forces"
(gravity, electro-magnetism, and strong and weak atomic
forces). A shaman thinks of things and the relation****p
between things as an interaction of the metaphor of
the one primeval "force" that he/she calls "energy".
Becoming aware of these interactions is the path
to using inner power.
  I leave it to you to speculate on what effects
changing a world view might have for someone's personal
reality and what value might be gained from it, notice
I avoid saying what is or is not "true". Everyone's
world view is unique; the differences come in all
colors, shapes and sizes. You might consider that a
new world view implies creating a new personal
universe. Or assume that something is left behind after
such a universe has been created: Can you visit other
universes created by shamans, or other people, or
yourself, or "others" in the near or distant past?
I am using "past" here as a term of convenience and
not stating that time does or does not exist. (I
am adding these interruptions to the flow of the
text not to irritate you, but to remind you to
think like a shaman.) Consider the idea that our
shared, familiar and "normal" universe may be
continually branching into different, perceived
shared universes usually shared only among the
inhabitants of their own particular universe.
(Do you choose which branch you take?) This is a
shamanistic viewpoint that has an echo in modern
science.  This may get you started, you can dream
as many dreams as you want but don't pretend you
know that this is a waste of time until you have
tried it. You may have noticed what I have
implied already: the "reality" of the existence
of any universe including our own "normal" one
is not necessarily a part of the `value' someone
receives from a personal experience. To a shaman,
the only relation****p that value has to "reality"
is what we make it to be ... so why make
"trueness" such a big deal?
  Escape on a voyage of fantasy using your
imagination (one of the few true powers we
possess). You may experience some surprising
things. By sailing off the edge of the flat
earth you can look back and see its "true"
shape. Just don't tell your friends or they
will try to heal your madness, or roll their
eyes and snicker behind your back, after all,
this isn't some primitive stone age society,
we have advanced beyond that, haven't we?
  If you think you have a rational mind, you
need to become more aware of the mind games
that are always playing inside ourselves. A
rational approach to things is often a very
useful tool. But becoming more aware can give
you the freedom to choose which tool you want
to use. If you aren't aware of any valid
options, you have no choice. You are stuck with
one tool. Think about listening to music: you
can think about counterpoint, harmony,
structure; or you can dance; or be carried away
with emotion; or just feel the beat. All are
valid, useful and enjoyable ways of listening
to music. You have a choice.
  The most effective world view is often the
world view of someone the shaman is trying to
help, a shaman is a healer of mind, body and
circumstance'. Observe the different tools
shamans use in different societies. A shaman
often finds power in accepting the world as it
"exists" rather than trying to change it.
  A person can have shamanistic ideas about
"reality", but without a commitment to healing,
that person is not a shaman. The word "sorcerer"
is sometimes used to describe someone who
changes world views to obtain personal power.
  A shaman views health as a creation of the
patient. A shaman, M.D., counselor, therapist
or whoever, can only `assist' a patient: h-aling
comes from within. The most im****tant part of a
he-ler's job is to convince the patients that a
hea-ing is actually taking place through
shamanic journeying, surgery, pills, counseling,
or whatever. The other part is assisting the
patients -eal themselves, through journeying,
surgery, pills, counseling, or whatever. Some
shamans may say the "convincing" part is the
only part beliefs precede reality and a shaman
is a realist (as a shaman defines it). Other
"realists" would say shamanism is far removed
from "realism". Other healers may have their own
ideas about their role.  One h-aling technique
sometimes used by shamans in some parts of the
world is what is now popularly called "s-ul
retrieval". A shaman views the world in several
ways. One effective way is to view the world as
if everything is separate. This is the way most
people view the world. "So-l retrieval" can
only take place in a world where things are
separate. A sou- can't be separated in a world
where things are connected or things share a
"oneness". But a shaman may think of this as
a useful tool when the patient is convinced
that his or her soul needs "retrieving". An
effective shaman would never suggest this as
a new concept for the patient unless this is
the only he-ling technique you know, why create
additional problems?
  To a shaman, hea-ing is more than helping
unhealthy people. It sometimes seems as if life,
things and events all strive towards their Own
idea of perfect health. A shaman tries to
become aware of the goals of anyone or anything
he or she is trying to cooperate with.
  A shaman has a background that can't be
completely discarded. A shaman has a f-ith in
something that he or she can't or doesn't want
to change.
  We `all' have fa-th in our own g-ds (our
ideas), or fa-th in Go- (theist), or f-ith in
the non-existence of -od (atheist), or faith
in our lack of fa-th in G-d (agnostic). Atheist
are fond of saying that they aren't saying that
Go- doesn't exist, they are saying that they
don't believe in -od either way they are
professing their fai-h. An agnostic is basically
saying, "I don't know." or even, "No one knows."
That is the convenient intellectual camouflage
we often use to conceal fai-h in our basic
beliefs from ourselves. Some would include with
agnostics, those who instead of professing their
-aith, imagine themselves as rational believers
("Here is the Evidence"). Many would say that
at some inner level we are all theists.
  Explore the assumptions beneath "I don't
know." Or "Who knows?" There are many ways to
learn. To discover the most valuable things,
we don't need teachers we all know more about
things than we think we do.
  A shaman doesn't completely switch world
views. To be effective, a world view only has
to be adopted to the extent `that results
change'. Everyone can observe this and notice
how many people pass by with smiles when you
are happy and how many have frowns when you are
grumpy. It's easy to explain: "It's only our
perception."
  Is our shared physical world real?  To a
shaman, our normal world holds a legitimate
and influential place among many other real
worlds as the result of so many people
experiencing it. A shaman doesn't think of the
"physical" world as illusion in the sense of
what some Eastern philosophies call a veil or
maya. A shaman often does not even distinguish
between "physical" and "sp-ritual": so it is
meaningless to say one is "better" than the
other.
  Usually shamans view the world as if we are
all connected. As a result, everyone's world
view is affected by everyone else's beliefs.
After all, if a baby rolls off the couch, he
or she will land on the floor: it doesn't seem
to matter what the baby believes about gravity,
it only seems to matter what the observer
believes. That's why a shaman has better things
to do than try to fly. Doing things like trying
to fly is a lot of work (most people believe in
gravity) and indicates you have some need to
prove your power if you have power you don't
have to prove it to yourself (you already know)
or prove it to someone else (im****tant only if
you lack real power).
  However, by ****fting into different worlds, a
shaman finds freedom; our choices are only
limited by ourselves. The shaman doesn't worry
about this being delusion: we call people
deluded when they break our rules. If we could
just give up the emotional attachments to our
ideas, we wouldn't take things so seriously.
  What is a Shaman?  Definition
  Starting from a knowledge of how a shaman
views the world, the tools a shaman uses are
seen as logical applications of that world
view. You can test my definition of what a
shaman is: the things that a shaman does,
follow from working with different world
views. Try this by looking at what shamans
do from the perspective of belief systems
and you won't have to take my word for it.
  So here's my arbitrary, simplified
definition of shamanism: A shaman is a
he-ler who changes world views in order to
become more effective.

  All of this information can be found at:
  http://www.seri-worldwide.org/shaman.html

Part 4 of 4.

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Val And UFOs.                  April 23, 2008.

  This is information about a space man who I have sent
regular mail to and received mail in return.  His name
is Valient Thor and his friends call him Val.
   I got this information from my friend DK.

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  (Note: Does this read a little like the movie "Day
the Earth Stood Still?") A real experience hardly
noticed. Disclosure has always been the most im****tant
precedence with them.)

     An H-ly Stranger in the P-ntagonal Lodge

  [Our Ho-y Pe-tagonal Brethren, it appeareth, are in
Dire Need of some Magical Direction to restore them
to the One True Path of Love and Light. -B:.B:.]

  "When I asked him where he was from, he
replied, 'I am from the Planet that is called
Venus.' I asked him how many visitors from
Venus were presently on Earth and he said,
'There are presently seventy seven of us
walking among you in the U-ited States. We
are constantly coming and going.'"

             The First Meeting
  March 16, 1957, in Alexandria, Virginia, one of
the finest leaders of the planet Venus, operating
under the direction of the Central Control and
who had been chosen to make the contact as well
as direct the project, landed his craft and was
met by two police officers, weapons drawn. A
thought transference quickly convinced them
that he meant no harm and he was ushered into
the back seat of their patrol car. After
crossing over into Wa****ngton, D.C., they were
met by the Secretary of D-fense along with
six of his staff members. Soon police from
every conceivable district and agency had
joined in, all trying to claim their right to
escort him to P-esident Dwight D. E-senhower.
Through his own version of the power of
positive thinking, he was able to dismiss
them all and soon passed through the
se-urity posts followed by an Air F-rce
Captain.
  Meanwhile, his presence in the area had
thrown everyone into a dilemma. The
introduction he held from the High Council
worried them because, though not written in
any Earthly language, their minds were
given power to properly translate the
inscribed message. Captain Gould (not his
real name) asked him to remain and after
downing two plain b-urbons muttered...

  "My g-d, why couldn't this have happened
on my day off?"

  Suddenly the door opened and six armed
guards led Val to what appeared to be an
elevator. It went rapidly to the bottom-most
level. Maximum secu-ity was in place.
After transferring to an underground train,
they sped toward the W-ite House. Six
officials, six armed guards and three
secr-t service men escorted him into
the office of Pr-sident Ei-enhower.
  From behind the desk the Pre-ident rose
while the se-ret service men remained nervous
and uneasy. As he extended his hand to shake
that of the Pres-dent, the sec-et service
men drew their revolvers and pointed them
at Val. Following the nod of the Presi-ent,
they reluctantly lowered their guns.

  Standing in front of his desk, the P-esident
said, "Of course, you know we have suspended
all rules of protocol. I have a good feeling
toward you. Please, sir, what is your name?"

  His Venusian Holiness;
  Brother Valiant Thor
  He replied, "Valiant."

  "And where do you come from?"

  "I come from the planet your B-ble calls
the morning and the evening star."

  "Venus?"

  "Yes, sir."

  "Can you prove this," he asked.

  "What do you constitute as proof?"

  He quickly retorted, "I don't know."

  "Will you come with me to my ****p?"

  He answered with a quizzical look and
said, "My friend, I cannot come and go
as I please. There are others to be
considered. There are committees to be
consulted and secu-ity measures to be
adhered to. Please spend some time with
us here ...Let's get better acquainted ...
learn more about one another ...and
perhaps soon, real soon, well ...we shall
see."

              Richard Nixon

  At that moment, another gentleman rushed
into the room. It turned out to be Vice Pr-sident
Richard Nixon. He appeared to Val to be very
sharp, quick-witted, with fixed eyes and an
amazing aptitude toward speed and proficiency.
  "My name is Valiant," he said as the Vice
Pre-ident thrust his hand without hesitation.

  "You have certainly caused a stir ...for an
out of towner." The Vice Pres-dent smiled as
he continued, "Of course, we are not totally
convinced of anything just yet. But suffice
it to say we are checking and double checking
everything you say and do. When Sergeant Y-ung
from Alexandria radioed in and stated that
you had just landed in a flying saucer, we
thought," he continued, "Sergeant Yo-ng had
flipped. Say, were you in on that UFO flap
over Wa****ngton? You certainly had us all
in a dither, if you were."

  After assuring them that this planet had
been under close scrutiny for hundreds of
years before the 1945 bomb blast and with
his special letter still in the slightly
quivering hand of the Pres-dent, he was
requested to follow the Sec-et Service back
the way they had come ...to the Pen-agon and
into a beautifully furnished apartment where
he would spend the next three years.
Fortunately, he was prepared for such a
lengthy visit and kept in constant
communication with the Star****p. There were
many occasions during which he tele****ted
himself in and out of those quarters often
exercising "transimagery" to cause the
sec-rity guards to visualize his face on
a nonexistent badge.

                  Photos Taken
          Brother Valiant Thor and His
     His Ho-y Venusian Amigos, Jill & Donn
         Note the Holy Scroll he holdeth

  Soon after his arrival, together with three
members of his crew, he joined a "convention"
in the back yard of the home of Mr. Howard
M-nger in High Bridge, New Jersey. The month
was April, 1957. A certain group of individuals
who were interested in UFOs were meeting that
day. Val and his crew members, Donn, Jill and
Tanyia, had changed into the same type of
clothing worn by their Earth friends. The
meeting was very interesting and these people
were on the right track. He was dismayed to
learn the undignified manner in which these
people were treated by the press. Nevertheless,
these people were pursuing their beliefs and
this was good. A curious young photographer,
August C. R-berts, snapped several pictures,
thinking he was doing so without Val's
knowledge. The photographer seemed to be
greatly troubled when he attempted to talk
to him. Yet, it was those very photographs
which were to bring me together with this
unusual man on that cold December day.

  Holding the message from the High Council
in his hand, the Pre-ident stated that Val's
offer to help the human family would upset
the economy of the Un-ted States and could
plunge her into the Abyss of Chaos. In brief,
he politely told Val that the people of
this planet were not ready to cope with such
conditions as would come into existence if
the recommendations of this unearthly
visitor were put into action. Nevertheless,
he was invited to assist a number of
scientists who were out working on medical
projects directly associated with the space
sciences. His allotted time to acquaint the
leaders of the Uni-ed States with his
suggestions was limited to three years.
During this time, he refused to advise them
regarding a certain "bomb in the sky" which
we now know as the Star W-rs system.

            "M-racle" Garment

  In his apartment, he was able to maintain
communications with his ****p and was kept
informed of the growing world tensions. His
uniform underwent rigid tests at that time.
By today's standards, they would now be
obsolete. They attempted to penetrate the
material with a diamond drill bit, but it
snapped under pressure. Acid rolled off the
uniform and burned a hole in the floor. They
fired a high-velocity rifle at the uniform
but it failed to pierce it. The re****t to
the Presi-ent read:
  Physical appearance -- Soft silver and
gold lustrous Fabric -- Unknown
  Weight-Six ounces, total, including boots
Cut -- Close fitting like a tunic; no cuffs,
pockets, buttons, zippers, clips or hooks
RXT-2 Tests -- Indestructible
  Finally, a bright-eyed Colonel escorted him to a
place where the final test would be performed. Val
looked at the laser instrument amusingly. Upon command,
the laser aimed a fine line of intense light
amplification by stimulated emission of radiation. The
Colonel began his discourse that this device contained
a crystal-synthetic ruby in which atoms, when
stimulated by focused light waves, amplify and
concentrate these waves, then emit the beam. As the
Colonel continued to speak, his smile gave way to utter
dismay...the ray being totally ineffective against the
garment. He babbled on long after the laser has been
turned off. He reiterated how powerful the US had
become since the splitting of the atom. He gave Val a
lesson in a-omic fusion. He went on to state that when
a chain reaction of nu-lear fission is set off by a
ne-tron bombardment in the atoms or a charge of
plutonium or uranium isotope with an ato-ic weight of
235 (U-235), an immense quantity of energy is suddenly
released. The good Colonel finally talked himself out
and Val was conducted back to his quarters...along with
his uniform.

  1959 was fast drawing to a close. Chiefs of State
were in a constant turmoil and confusion was the rule
of the day. Indecision caused delay after delay.
Economists and industrial giants conferred with
p-liticians and mi-itary heads daily. The Go-ernment
leaders could not reconcile Val's being in a position
to force their hand if he so desired. Several
scientists attempted to learn the secre-s of
interstellar travel...without success.
  Christmas week was now upon us. I had been busily
presenting a series of scientific lectures and speaking
at a number of C-urches in Wa****ngton, D.C. Earlier
that month, I had returned from Cuba where I met
personally with Fidel Castro.
  Unbeknownst to me, Val, working with "Nancy W-rren"
(she was one of only a few since his arrival at the
Pentagon in whom he was able to discern an honest and
open heart and who loved Almighty G-d, her country and
her fellow man), formulated a plan whereby I would be
contacted.

Part 1.

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Something About William Cooper.
April 22, 2008.

  I came in contact with William Cooper when he was
giving some lectures to a UFO convention over at
San Mateo, Calif., in the San Francisco Bay Area.  He
was sitting in a cafe talking to interested people
before going back in to give some more lectures.  He
was a real tough guy and spoke in very uncomplimentary
terms of the people who were attending the lecture and
the other speakers.  He then said he wanted to take
those words back because the people were paying him
to talk.  Later on down the line Bill dared the
g-vernment and the come and get him.  In the shuffle
Bill shot a deputy and was then was himself shot by
other law inforcement people.  So they did get him.
  Here is some of the information that he brought
out that finally caused him to lose him life.

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       WILLIAM COOPER ON ALIEN INVOLVEMENT

  William Cooper, an ex-intelligence officer for the
U-ited states Navy's job was to brief high level n-val
personnel and admirals officials about the American
deals with aliens. It was all above top s-cret, but he
decided that all of this se-recy was not in the best
interests of his country. Other mi-itary people did
also. William started talking to inform his friends,
c-ngressmen and go-ernment. He was tried to be
a-sassinated, twice and he lost a leg and got a head
injury. Cooper says that the operations of the UFO's
and the arrangements with them are outside the
control of the elected gov-rnment, but not the se-ret
gov-rnment: the C-A, F-I, T-ilateral Commission and
it is conducted under sec-et department of the
Na-y. The Project Blue Book was a scenario, the
Nav- had the real information because they've
traced the documents and expenses for these bases
to -ecret -avy projects. Large n-val bases have
been found in the desert, under very tight
sec-rity probably because of what is underneath
them. Cooper says one of the sec-et, se-ret
gove-nment branches called M- 12 are the ones
that directly are the the gray eminences that
decide on all alien-human questions. This was
arranged after W.W.II by T-uman, probably on
the orders of R-osevelt. When Co-gress didn't
give enough money for sec-et n-val projects
the CI- smuggled d-ugs into US and the Vietnam
w-r was fought to protect the Golden Triangle
of dr-g operation in Cambodia. They ****pped
back dru-s to US in the b-dies of d-ad soldiers.
Billions went to build these costly alien
bases. They now have over 6000 scientists hired
just to work on these experiments, mind
controls and genetics. K-nnedy, who wanted to
tell the public about the aliens was k-lled
before he could.

       DEALING WITH CRASHED SAUCERS

  William Cooper agrees that P-esident Tr-man
was one of the first pr-sidents to know about
the aliens and Roo-evelt knew about them.
  They found a crashed saucer near Roswell,
New Mexico with de-d aliens in it so they set
up the committee probably on orders from
R-osevelt. Roo-evelt was the one that cut up
Germany and gave all those countries to
Russia. He wasn't a very n-ce guy and also
dropped a-omic b-mbs on civilians in a
non-mil-tary scenario.
  Cooper says there were over 47 crashed
saucers in the Texas/New Mexico area. In 1953,
10 more and 26 alien bodies recovered.
Gover-ment law documents were put out to deal
with this alien question and they set up the
CI- with the main purpose to handle the alien
question and to carry on with the intelligence,
overseas intelligence, that they inherited
from the Office of Sp-cial Operations at the
end of the wa-. The -J 12 Committee was set
up to oversee everything and be there all the
time no matter who the pr-sident was.  So now
the MJ -2 are officially advisors to the
Un-ted States Gov-rnment, before they were
unofficial now they are by law a special
committee. They handle the alien affairs, more
money, more bases, more experiments, how to
get the money for it, all that.
  Cooper says that they have the power now to
come and take anyone with a saucer piloted by
aliens or humans, because at the secret bases
they've taught the American pilots to fly
these things. They could come and take people
away.
  Anybody who tried to say anything would
just be laughed at as another UFO nut.
  He says there are good aliens. But everybody
on the planet is always ki-ling each other so
we must appear crazy. He says there hasn't
been 20 years without wa- in the last 2000
years. He said that when the 'good' aliens
visited Edward's A-rforce Base in 1954, they
told pres-dent E-senhower, whom they met
there, that they would give their help, if the
Americans would destroy their a-omic and
n-clear weapons. And Eis-nhower took this
information to the MJ 1-, of whom most of
them, R-ckefeller and all, make their
fortunes making at-mic weapons and rockets,
and so they refused to have anything to
do with those ones. The good aliens said
they would have to be invited to help,
otherwise they would be as bad as the
grays. There are good aliens, but nobody
invited them in, because most of our
gover-ments are already connected up with
aliens.

        WHICH ALIENS ARE OUT THERE?

  R-bertson says we know that the Uni-ed
States is connected up with the implanters.
Most of the European nations and Russia are
now connected up with the Marcabian. They
also take Earth b-dies. A lot of aliens on
this planet would not be different from
anyone else. They may look like Nordic
people from Norway or Sweden or they may
look like small five foot high Indians
from South America. There are many alien
cultures interested in this planet. L.
Ron Hubbard said that this is called Sun
12 "Sol", and that we are in Sector 9,
and this is galaxy 1.  (JW  My personal
friend by the name of Don Showen loaned
me most of L. Ron Hubbard's book and I
read them.  We went though all of the
procedures that were done in Scientology
that would make a person a "Clear".  I
enjoyed every bit of it but didn't
become a Scientologist.  Don Showen
chose to not remain a Scientologist also.)
Many will find that out when they audit,
they find out where they are. Hubbard
says this planet in the old days used to
be known as Teegeeack.
  There were many wa-s and disasters about
this planet. It can be read about that in
the book Sector 9. The screen play that
Hubbard wrote called "R-volt in the Stars",
****trays they also had trouble with some
beings from another place called "The
Gray Invaders" These are the same ones just
further back on the track. There is an
implanter base on Mars as shown in the film
Alternative 3 and a base on the other side
of the moon. Hubbard also claims there is
an old base on Venus. Rob-rtson says that
there's some very mysterious happenings in
govern-ent sec-rity and sec-ecy about
Antarctica, which has persisted even since
the Third Re-ch. He suspects it is another
base, just like the Dulce base and maybe
with more places for ****ps to land. He says
also we can assume there is a secr-t
underground implanter base in at Pine Gap.
There are other bases in the Un-ted States
and it says for "West USA Underground Bases" -
Pine Gap.

        THE MARCABIANS v THE IMPLANTERS

  In the Scientology book Sector 9, the
Marcabians and implanters were together at
one time. Then came "The Free Zone Decree"
and the exile of one of the chief implanters
and that they split. They both want to control
the world, but the implanters want do it with
implants. The things of doctors, medicine,
dr-gs, biology, genetics and small radio
transmitters in the brain. People are
controlled by these.
  Alternatively the Marcabians want to do it
now with their specialties, which is
administration, paperwork and money. Economic
pressures. It's just as effective, but doesn't
implant something up the nose to control us.
  We're merely controlled by economics,
paperwork and what the n-wspapers write every
day. That's another method of planetary
control. Rob-rtson says there's a third group,
a real alternative 3, who control people
through truth and freedom so they can control
themselves. That's what we call The Free Zone.
Europe, Australia, South America and the
Unit-d States has several of these places.
  In between all of these are the mass of
humanity that are being tried to be
controlled by all the other groups. According
to Scientology information Robe-tson speaks
of Galaxy 1 which is ours. Sector O is in
the middle and Sector 9 down our way. Then
Sun 12 - Teegeeack is our sun and earth. The
Marcab Confederacy is up at the North Star,
round Polaris. Betelgeuse is in the
constellation Orion. He said there would be
a main ****p patrolling that sector from the
Galactic Patrol from this galaxy, who are
dedicated to preserving civilizations with
the maximum freedom for the individual. The
good aliens were either friends of or
members of the Galactic Patrol, who don't
believe in enforcing their will on anyone.
So that is representative of the Central
Gover-ment of this galaxy. Now the Marcabians
used to be allied with those guys from
Andromeda, which is the next galaxy over here,
Galaxy 0.

                    GALAXY 0

  Robert-on says in the past, they had so much
trouble in this sector. Beings started life
forms in galaxy 0. The first place it spread
to was this galaxy. It's the nearest one to
that one. In 1950 Hubbard came along with some
technology to free beings called Dianetics. He
also had a lot of help from the Galactic Patrol
and the people who are representing this
galaxy's citizens in Sector 0.

Part 1.

John Winston.   johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Did We Shoot Down Some UFOs?   April 23, 2008.

  This discusses the meeting of Ike with the space
people.  Some of the claims made about the number of
space ****ps shot down by us may be exaggerated quite
a bit.

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  AMERICANS AND RUSSIANS FIGHT INVADING ALIENS WITH
PARTICLE BEAM WEAPONS TOGETHER.

  It has been claimed now that the end to the cold w-r
has come about so the Russians and Americans can 'team
up' to fight the menace from space. Al B-elek has said
that the US now has their own particle beam weapons,
putting out 1 x 10 to the 25th power joules - more
power than a h-drogen bomb. These are fired into space
to shoot down UFO's. Americans, when systems were
operational, were shooting down 5-7 a week. The
Russians are now doing the same with their particle
beam weapons, filling football fields 50 feet
thick with crashed ****ps.
  Al claims they were shooting down 30 a week and
this included any space****ps within 250 miles
above Russia, and known hostile ****ps even further
out.  They also shoot down 'friendly' Pleiadian
****ps. The "One who knows" claims that Soviets
have worked for years perfecting laser weapons
and now have one capable of shooting 1000 miles,
without the beam spreading more than 5 feet. James
van Z-eland writes that weapons now are even
more deadly - EM transmissions come from ground
based antenna. There's an older version of
similar Tx/Rx site near E-mouth, Western
Australia and one on the South Pole, too. Scalar
wave EM transmissions are very different to
particle beam. Particle beams are directed
energy weapons where masses, photons, or
particles travel through space to contact
the target. In scalar EM weapons, the
electromagnetic field energy is turned into
gravitational field energy and back again.
The exchange can be localized to specific
areas, making it possible to focus the
effects through space-time itself; the
weapon need not travel to its target; energy
simply bursts out of "hyperspace" at the
target location. The basic method uses two
ground sites to transmit waves that create the
effect where they intersect and interfere.
It has many applications; metal softening,
Anti-ICBM / Bomber / cruise missile systems
and energy bombs. Scalar EM weapons can be
used to induce biological effects such as
heart seizure, emotional upset, disease, and
even introjection of thoughts, emotions, and
ideas. More information here.
http://www.webaxs.net/~noel/articles/par-sem.htm
and in
http://www.nexusmagazine.com
by Harry M-son in the article Bright Skies on
testing Tesla invented weaponry in Australia.

        ALIENS BACKING MANY FACTIONS.

  "The One Who Knows" claims that various
factions such as the CI-, KG-, the N-zis,
C-mmunists, FB- etc. are fighting each other,
yet working towards the same goal, because
B-itish and E-ropean royalty, and aristocrats
(together - the B-lderbergers) make all the
global decisions and p-licies for the world to
unite into one w-rld go-ernment. This is
covered excellently in Dr. John C-leman's
C-nspirator's Hierarchy - The Story of the
C-mmittee of 300. From other sources it is
written that the Bil-erbergers have an
alien alliance as does U- and the F-eemasons.
There is a common belief system that is
followed from Fr-emasonry, to the Na-is,
various n-wage groups and think tanks and -N
in that they follow T-eosophical teachings
and Alice B-iley, formerly of the
The-sophical Society. In particular they
follow the belief that this age will pass
away and a new r-ce will be created which
will supersede all others. This is supposedly
the 6th A-yan r-ce. Alice Ba-ley has further
influenced her followers into believing that
the world will 'ascend' into a higher frequency
and that a 'new group of world servers' will
be left to herald the new a-e to obey the
'Masters of Wisdom' who will be arriving
from elsewhere in the -niverse. All other
inferior ra-es won't be necessary any more.
Werner von B-aun stated in 1959 that he
was entering into closer contact with
E-s. The German space pioneer Herman Oberth
said they couldn't take credit for their
record advancement in certain scientific
fields, that people from other worlds helped.

    AMERICA SIGNS TREATY WITH THE ALIENS

  In the book The Ultimate D-ception by
Commander X it tells of how USA started creating
their own space****ps from back engineering the
UFO that crashed at Roswell in 1947. There
have been many other crashes also around the
globe including many in China, with Germany
receiving theirs in 1939. Americans sent their
crashed UFOs to Wright P-tterson Ai-force Base
at Dayton, Ohio. Some of the lethal death
weapons developed came from alien technology.
President Eisenhower met with aliens on 20
Feb. 1954 at Edwards Air-orce Base. ( )?
This was re****ted by Lord C_ancarty a Br-tish
member of p-rliament, who was told this by
a former top US test pilot, one of 6 people
at the visitation. He'd been called in as
technical advisor.
  These aliens spoke English, looked a little
like humans, but misshapen and wanted an
education program about themselves for USA
and eventually the earth.
  They showed him their ability to make
themselves invisible and demonstrated their
spacecraft. The invisibility, but knowing
they were there, caused Ei-enhower a lot of
discomfort and he said the world wasn't
ready yet for them.
  Dr. Richard B-ylan (JW  I attended and talked
with Mr. Bo-lan's lecture in Sacramento, Calif.
He had a male steward with him who served on
Air For-e One during the time of that John
K-nnedy was pre-ident.  The steward was on a
plane that had c-ngressmen high m-litary and
VIPs on it.  They were taken to a remote
air****t where they talked to odd space people
and saw their space ****p.) was told by a
former-N-A informant about an ET base on earth,
sanctioned by officials since 1954. In May
1954 after meeting with the ETs Eisen-ower along
with C-A director, Walter Bedell S-ith, Prince
B-rnhard of the Netherlands, David R-ckefeller and
other top world financiers, later Se-retary of
State Dean R-sk, later-Bri-ish Minister of
De-ense Denis H-aly and other Western power
leaders convened as the Bilde-berg Group. A
Western collective management of the world
o-der. One of the first items discussed was ET
contact.
  They collaborated with the C-uncil for Foreign
Relations. (C-R) Both these groups decided to
enter into an arrangement with the ETs whom
were given an island in F-ench Polynesia as a
base.

        ALIENS WORKING WITH SCIENTISTS.
  Dr B-ylan's informant said that these ETs, the
diplomatic corps, will be introduced to
earthlings, saying that they are from the
Pleiades, who by the way have been here since
the beginning of time. These ET scientists
consultants assisted American scientists in
developing the computer chip, fibre optics,
lasers, gene-splicing therapy, cloning,
nightvision equipment, super-tenacity fibres,
aerospace ceramics, Stealth technology,
particle beam devices and gravity-control
flight. NSC's Dr. Michael W-lf as part of US
govt.. duties shared living quarters with
aliens while doing research at underground
laboratories. He said the grays worked
underground and he also worked with human
appearing aliens dubbed Semitics from Altair
4 and 5 and Nordics from the Pleiades.
  UFO crashes first occurred in 1941, 1946,
Roswell and 2 other crashes in 1947. William
Cooper said people who work at these bases
don't come forward because they sign a contract
agreeing to the erasure of their memory, with
hypnotics, hypnotic d-ugs and suggestion after
you leave that you don't remember what you did
that day.  And that after the whole job and
their contract over they do a chemical erasure
of their entire memory of the thing.

  RADAR FREQUENCY CHANGED TO NOT DISRUPT UFO
           NAVIGATION SYSTEMS.

  Al Bi-lek, physicist and Philadelphia
Experiment survivor, said that for the Eise-hower
treaty in 1954 with the aliens as part of
non-interference, radar used had to change from
435 MHz as they said it knocks out their
navigation systems, hence the crashes. This is
apparently the frequency for the universe and
is used to create time/space tunnels. Radar
now goes from 8-10 GHz, ten times the frequency,
to make no interference to space****ps. Al also
said that R-osevelt had already met with 2
groups of aliens in 1934 during the depression
and had elected to work with the blue grays.
They arranged to swap technology in exchange
for allowing people to be abducted. He'd
already met with Pleiadians, but they wouldn't
give him weapon technology so they went over
to the Germans.
  Nikola Tesla is said to have developed
anti-gravity technology early this century,
and claims to have spoken daily with ETs.
The world's most advanced mathematician
R-manujan says he was in contact with a
"g-ddess" and also the physicist Walter
R-ssell with a "cosmic messenger".

         EISENH-WER'S ALIEN MEETING.

  In The Ultimate Deception by Commander X ,
Frank S-ranges, a man who was friends with
one of 3 Venusians dealing with the Pe-tagon,
has this to say of the meeting: During this
meeting of Pres. Eisenh-wer with the aliens
in 1954 3 UFO's landed on the runway. The
Presi-ent had with him several members of
the joint c-iefs of staff, several members of
the National S-curity Council, a representative
from Ro-kefeller's office and a representative
from the Rot-schilds. They viewed a UFO about
30 feet in diameter. The UFO dematerialized
in front of their eyes. They have pictures of
this and apparently the UFO is still at
Edwards Air-orce Base in Ca. They say it was
the direct cause of Pres. Eisenho-er's first
heart attack. To this day nobody has been able
to crack into the UFO, lasers didn't even
warm up on the surface. Every Pre-ident has
been to see this space****p. One of the
Venusians at the Penta-on called Val Thor,
apparently still on earth and not even aged,
looks exactly like a human. This story is
covered in the Ultimate Deception where there
is a photo of Val Thor. Nordic aliens from
the Pleiades and other places also look
exactly like us, and claim that the
Scandinavians are their descendants. It has
been said that the Na-is down in Antarctica
are in league with renegade Pleiadians. Hitler
has also said to have been in touch with
Pleiadians. Al Bi-lek also writes this.

             HITLER'S ALIEN ALLIANCE.

  In the book Extra Terrestrial Friends and Foes
by George C A-drews it tells of Hitler's alien
alliance. George says, in his opinion, that in the
ceremonial b-ack ma-ic practiced by the e-ite
core of the Naz-s, the Bl-ck Order ( now the
innermost core of the C-A, that was created from
former N-zis that came to U-A), contact was
established with the grays. The Bavarian serpent
wor****p Illu-inati also established contact with
reptoids is covered in Cult of the Serpent by
Bran-on.

Part 1.

John Winston.   johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 




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