Subject: Steven Greer And F-ee Energy Devices.
July 9, 2008.
While I was listening to the Coast To Coast AM
radio show on about July 7, 2008 I thought I heard
Steve Greer say that he had interviewed a former
g-vernment employee and he said he was taken to
warehouse and was shown many fr-e energy devices that
were taken by different means from people and stored
in this warehouse. I then decided to check this out
and found the following information.
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Earlier in 2004, Phenomena Editor Richard Dolan
interviewed Dr. Steven Greer. Greer is the founder of
the Center for [the] Study of Extraterrestrial
intelligence (CSETI), which claims to have initiated
communication and contact with extraterrestrials on
Earth.
In addition, Greer has founded the
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_disclosure_project.htm
Disclosure Project dedicated to ending official s-crecy
regarding UFOs.
Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence
CSETI), and within three years you’re getting an
invitation to meet with Laurence R-ckefeller. How did
that happen so quickly?
Greer
(G): To be honest with you, I think it was the force
of the message. Not only had we put together an
enormous amount of do***entation about the phenomenon,
but we had also formulated teams that were going all
over the world, and had reproducible results with
hundreds of witnesses - who had been able to signal to
these objects. We had different teams in England, or
Belgium, or Mexico, or places in the U-ited States.
From a number of them we got videotapes, photographs,
or other witnesses who saw the event happening.
Some of the stories are extraordinary.
G: Yes, and they’re all absolutely true. In fact
they’re way understated. This is what caught the
attention of people like Laurence Ro-kefeller, Mrs.
Buttros G-ali [wife of the former UN General
Secretary], former head of A-my Intelligence General
Stubblebine, and eventually friends of the P-esident
C-inton]. Some very good friends of the Pr-sident
became cognizant of what we were doing and urgently
wanted us to get information to the Pre-ident, to his
science advisor, as well as to some of the senior
m-litary intelligence people in his administration
after he got elected in 1993.
So we put together briefing materials and had
meetings. The main thing is that this is an inside
game. I hate to use that term, but this has mainly been
a process of educating two cl***** of people who are
"insiders."
One are the people who are on the inside, who should
know, but don’t, such as Pre-idents, C-A directors, and
so on. The other part of it is educating, from a new
paradigm, the national and international se-urity
control group - which some call
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_mj12.htm
- that deals with these issues. That is a committee of
about two or three hundred people, and I know a number
of them.
The issue here is to educate them to the need for
disclosure, for safe applications of technologies, and
for this matter to be handled wisely.
We feel that it has been handled promiscuously and
dangerously. If you look at some of the things that
have happened over the last fifty years, aside from it
eroding the rule of law and democracy, the actual
handling of the subject itself has been dangerous.
It’s a very dangerous thing for example, for the
Commander in Chief of A-lantic Command, Admiral Harry
T-ane, not to have had adequate information on the
subject and to scramble jets up and down the eastern
seaboard trying to force down one of these objects.
[This refers to an alleged mi-itary-UFO encounter from
May 1981 - Ed.]. This kind of behavior, which has
mainly taken place in a vacuum of sec-ecy, is a danger
to the national securi-y.
You have people who have a need to know who can’t
find out anything. And then you have other people who
do know and are controlling it, but they’re in a cult
of secre-y that becomes hermetically sealed.
D: Did you brief CI- director Wo-lsey, and there’s
talk that you briefed some other very high-level
Clin-on officials. I’m wondering who those were. For
example, the name Al G-re came up. Did you in fact
brief Al Go-e on UFOs
G: Well, there are a number of people in public life
that I don’t want to comment on, who we are currently
meeting with. They are and extensive group of people.
They include people who are currently friends with
every living pre-ident.
There’s not a living pres-dent who doesn’t have a
close associate on our advisory team. So from that,
you can extrapolate.
D: Can you give a sense of when these briefings were
happening, the kinds of things what were said? What do
you think of Bill Clin-on himself, and his sense of all
this?
G: First of all, for the most part, very few people
in most administrations knew anything about the
subject. They knew what they saw on a badly-done
do***entary on the Discovery Channel. It’s a sad
statement, but that is really true.
This is not just the executive branch. I met with a
member of the intelligence community back in the
1990’s. That was Senator Richard B-yan, and it was
traumatic. I use that word because there’s this sense
that [these officials] know this is the truth. But the
problem is that if you make the case this is real, and
you’re talking to someone who is the head of the -IA,
or is a high official in the intelligence community,
you find they have been denied access. They’ve made an
inquiry through channels and have been told no such
project exists.
This is frightening. Not in the sense that the
phenomenon is is frightening, but that people could be
at those levels of responsibility and operational
divisions where they really do have a need to know, and
where they are completely left in the dark. I would say
that none of the reactions have been, "oh this is
silly, it’s nonsense." This is im****tant to hear: I
haven’t had a single meeting with a high official,
either scientific, p-litical, or mil-tary, who has had
that reaction. Not in the least.
D: What were some of the other types of reactions?
G: Dismay, deep concern, and great interest.
D: Would you say they generally believe there’s
some kind of cover up going on?
G: Oh yeah. I had with a member of c-ngress who is on
the House National Se-urity Committee who said to me,
bluntly: "We of course are window dressing."
I’ll never forget the poignant moment when we were
fini****ng the nearly three-hour meeting with C-A
Director [James] Woo-sey and his wife, Dr. Sue Wool-ey
(who at the time was the Chief Operating Officer at the
National Academy of S-iences). He was getting ready to
leave, Se-ret Service were out front, and I gave him a
summary packet with a set of recommendations for the
Clint-n Administration. This was in the December of
1993. He looked at me and said, "Dr. Greer, how can we
disclose what we are being denied access to? What would
that say to the world?"
It’s a very sobering thought, because part of the
illusion here is that people we elect are actually in
control. They’re not. This is something that most
people don’t discuss. These [gov-rnment officials] are
not stupid or naive. -linton was a very bright man.
C-hen was a very brilliant man. W-olsey was a very
smart man. They know there’s something going on.
When we did our first briefing for members of
Con-ress in 1997, we gathered about a dozen mi-itary
witnesses of UFO events. Following that, I had a
meeting over at the P-ntagon with a senior official, an
admiral at the Joint Chiefs of -taff level. My mil-tary
advisor, a man with great access to the senior flag
officers, was a friend of this gentleman. We went over
there with a couple of these witnesses.
Prior to the meeting, I had given him some do***ents,
code names, and numbers.
These were current code names and code numbers. He
took them and made inquiries at the Pent-gon into these
projects, and he hit pay dirt. He actually located
these projects. When he made an inquiry, wanting to
know what these projects were doing, he was flat out
told, "Sir, you don’t have a need to know." This is an
admiral with the Intelligence D-rector. They told him
he didn’t have a need to know. He was furious.
These are the code words for UFO related programs?
G: Yes. They’re actually ETV, extraterrestrial
vehicle, related. No one uses the word UFO, by the way.
UFO was coined after they knew they weren’t
unidentified and they knew they didn’t fly. (Laughs).
By the end of this briefing, this admiral said to me,
"If this is true, and I have no reason to doubt it,
you’re dealing with some of the most powerful
technologies. These are things that could do circles
around my B-2 stealth bombers." He also said, "Unless
the civilian authorities authorize me to push further,
there’s not much I can do." I then told him what we
were planning to do with the Disclosure Project. To
the extent that we could get people and do***ents and
other things, we were going to put them out there. He
looked at me and said, "If you can do it, do it."
I was in Britain meeting with the Ministry of
D-fense, and also the former head of the Ministry of
De-ense, Lord Hill N-rton. He’s a Sea L-rd, a Five Star
Admiral. At one point he asked, "Why the h-ll wasn’t I
told about this when I was head of the Ministry of
Def-nse?"
Part 1.
John Winston. johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steven Greer And F-ee Energy Devices.
Part 2 of 2. July 10, 2008.
A person, who is a very smart person suggests that
I only take Steve Greer's information with a grain of
salt but here goes the story as told by Mr. Greer.
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I said "Sir, what would you have done while you were
head of the M-D, and you found out that there was a
clandestine group that was transnational - e.g.
transcended national borders - that had this
information. That had lied to the P-esidents, Prime
M-nisters, and high officials. That had used hundreds
of billions of taxpayer dollars to work on these
projects, and had sequestered them inside private
cor****ate structures. And had also, literally, engaged
in elimination - m-rder - in order to keep it s-cret?"
He looked at me and said, "I wouldn’t have stood for
it for one b-oody minute!"
I said, "That’s why they weren’t going to tell you,
and that’s why they will never tell you."
You see, the first thing these folks do is a s-ul
biopsy. By that I mean they’re going to take a reading
of you as a person. Your whole person. If they don’t
think you’ll go along with the game, they’re not going
to tell you. Or they’ll tell you disinformation, or set
you on the wrong track.
Whether or not you know has nothing to do with your
position. This is the big mistake that the UFO research
community has made. Assumptions have been make,
[like] "oh, you’re the head of the National S-curity
Agency, you know." Some N-A chiefs have known, some
haven’t.
[Former NS- Director] Bobby Ray I-man knew. Others
haven’t. Some CI- directors had knowledge, others
didn’t. Bill C-lby knew a great deal.
D: Is that why Bill Co-by d-ed?
G: Yeah, basically, I mean that’s an untouched story.
D: He di-d in 1996, in what was described as an
’unfortunate boating accident.’
G: [long pause] Well, I have never said this
publicly, but I’ll say it now because this is now many
years gone. The week that he -ied, he was scheduled to
meet with a member of our board, to transfer an
enormous sum of money and actual hard material. Proof
of this whole matter. Because he was sick of the
se-recy, he was old, and he wanted it to come out. He
very much sup****ted what we wanted to do. One of his
best friends, who was an old c-lonel, was our
go-between. And it was under very suspicious
cir***stances, that’s as far as I’ll go.
I will say that this co-onel, who was good friends
with Bill Co-by, came to the wake of a good friend of
mine who d-ed - there were three of us who got
metastatic c-ncer the same month, and I’m the only one
left living, all under rather strange conditions,
that’s all I’ll say about that. He said to me, "You
know, we can’t look back. We’ve got to to forward."
These are tragic losses that both of us have had. It’s
very emotional I can’t talk about this and not get
choked up. Some of the things that have happened to
keep this se-ret are really unconscionable.
I’ve been suspicious of Colb-’s death for a long
time. I think a lot of people are.
G: We know exactly what happened. I know when it
happened, how it happened, who ... but the whole point
is that I’m not one of these take a pound of flesh,
revenge kind of guys. I’m more like, "let’s keep our
eye on the ball." The ball is the future of
civilization we have here on this planet. We’re running
out of time to do some of the right things that should
have happened in the 1950s.
D: What about your efforts regarding Zero Point
Energy?
G: From the
http://www.disclosureproject.org
Disclosure Project and the
http://www.cseti.org
CSETI work we met a number of scientists from places
like Murray H-ll, L-ckheed, and N-rthrop.
They worked on some of these exotic propulsion and
energy systems, and had not already been gobbled up by
the m-litary-industrial-intelligence complex. We
concluded that there was actually enough science and
invention to form an effort to bring it out.
So a spinoff of the Disclosure Project became
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_seas.htm
Space E-ergy Access Systems, Inc. It’s not so much
that we’re trying to bring out anti-ravity,
electrog-avity, or magnetogr-vitic technologies to the
public at the first blow. But revealing science and
physics behind energy generation capabilities that
would explain the behavior of UFOs.
We’ve developed a collection of some two dozen or
maybe three dozen inventions and inventors. Some are
bench-type prototypes. Some are a little more
developed, dealing with e-ergy and propulsion systems
that merit further research and development. My opinion
is that it will take ten or twenty million dollars to
take most of those things into anything of commercial
value. By that, I mean something you could put into
your house, start operating off the grid, extracting
energy from the quantum vacuum space, the so-called
zero-point energy field.
We can now state with some confidence that we have
observed and tested systems out there that are far
enough along that they’re not decades away. Maybe 12 to
24 months away from having at least Generation One
energy devices that could completely replace o-l, gas,
coal, and n-clear power.
Of course, we have a basic R&D need that is going to
be rather expensive. Large cor****ations will not fund
this, and if they do, they’re doing to b-ack box" it.
These technologies have been known since the 1940s
and 1950s, and it’s been "bl-ck shelf" for that long.
But there are some cracks of light coming out. One of
them is a powerful member of the S-nate that we’re
meeting with. He’s showing a tremendous amount of
interest in this area - and I think I can open some
doors for some basic science R&D funding.
D: Do you have a device, or a blueprint of a device,
that actually would produce excess energy?
G: Well, of course, !--
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Tom Bearden and his MEG
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/scalar_tech/esp_scalarwar01.htm
Motionless Electro-agnetic Generator is being
developed that does this. It’s not ready for
commercialization. It needs quite a bit of further R&D.
But, yes there are. We visited another gentleman who’s
got a device, more old fa****oned, kind of a Tesla-type
rotary system. But this device was putting out 400-500
watts of usable power at 60 hertz and 110 volts from
basically the quantum vacuum field. It was quite
remarkable when this person had some threats, he was
frightened.
For many of these inventors, unfortunately, the
currency of fear goes a long way to keeping them from
being too bold. But, yes, we have seen these things,
and I’m optimistic that it can be done. My big concern
is will it take longer than the earth will allow. There
are some serious problems going on right now.
D: Yes. We’re in the middle of a natural gas crisis
in North America and we’re maybe a decade away from
hitting the petroleum wall.
G: Correct, and the people I work with at the
Department of En-rgy have pointed out maybe less than a
decade from now, particularly if there’s any economic
development at all in Russia, China, and India.
D: Plus, there’s evidence O-EC’s cooked their books,
so there’s really not telling how much is left.
G: Yes, and also what the refining and ****pping
capabilities are. This is a very complex, centralized,
energy supply line trying to feed six billion people.
One of the problems with the whole fossil fuel game is
that its very zero sum. Meaning that there’s only so
much of it to go around. It almost requires that about
80 percent of the world’s population be impoverished,
while maybe twenty percent, if we’re lucky, can live
something of a civilized lifestyle.
When, locked away in these bl-ck boxes of covert
industry and mi-itary intelligence, are the solutions
for this.
Unfortunately it does not look as though we are even
close to moving in that direction.
G: Well, I wouldn’t be so sure. There’s the outside
game and the inside game. The inside game that I see
going on is encouraging. I would estimate upwards of 40
or 45 percent of the policy group that deals with these
issues are in favor of this coming out. I know there
are preparations being made for that to happen. I think
a number of people in circles around the world are
beginning to look at this problem, and are thinking
there are serious secrecy issues that need to get
resolved.
There are also some promising technologies that they
are just beginning to be made aware of. That’s why I
tell people, part of this is an educational and
"consciousness raising" process. But part of it also is
being bold enough to say "we’re prepared to provide the
leader****p to do this."
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_autor_greer.htm
Part 2 of 2.
John Winston. johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Who Is J-hovah? July 10, 2008.
I had always been brought up to fear this person.
He says that he is vengeful and hates cetain things.
He will bless you if you love him and he'll k-ll you
if you don't. He takes vengence on people who make him
mad up to the second and third generation.
This information tells a little about him.
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Subject: The Alien 'G-ds'
The Alien 'Go-s' from V8 of where Were You Before The
Tree of Life?
. . . It needs to be clarified here again that
neither the Ankkadians nor the Sumerians ever called
these visitors to Earth `-ods'. It was through later
paganism that the notion of Divine Beings or G-ds has
filtered into our language and thinking. . . the
Ankkadians called them Ilu or Lofty ones, from which
the Hebrew El stems. The Canaanites and Phoenicians
called them Ba'al which translates into L-rd. This was
the reason that the so-called Go- known as YA-WEH
needed to separate himself from the others, making
himself the `One -od' we have been tracking throughout
the first 7 volumes of this work. No wonder one of the
Ten Commandments is `Thou Shalt Have No Other Go-
before Me." If you had been an English peasant back in
the Middle Ages then you had your Lo-d and m-ster, the
exact same terms most Western r-ligious people use for
their concept of `-od'. That's exactly the way it was
back in those days. Here are these rulers who come to
Earth, manipulate our DNA `from dust' and we expect
those who were created to see anything in these beings
and the way they control and manipulate the situations
here on planet Earth. The peoplem of the time didn't
know any different because they didn't have the
intelligence, or the s-iritual awareness that had been
genetically manipulated out of them, to know better.
As the planet fell into a 3rd dimensional state, the
Annu****i and other `visiting alien overlo-ds' had the
choice to remain higher dimensional or to create for
themselves more masks to hide their appearances, this
time `holographic masks' such as we now see on so many
of the reptilian e-ite of the planet. Much of this is
relatively accurately ****trayed in the John Carpenter
movie, They Live, though only one type of alien is
****trayed in the movie whereas in truth we have the
whole Star Wars Bar of hundreds of thousands of
different alien types. The short story on which the
movie is based actually ****trays the aliens being seen
accurately, as `reptilians'.
Re-igion as we know it exists in relatively few other
planets in CREATION. Most other civilizations are far
more advanced than to accept such simplistic versions
of Creation and how things work. Only on the 3rd
dimensional level of existence where sou-s such as ours
were never meant to exist could such a giant fraud be
perpetrated on the unsuspecting inhabitants? Not to
mention to the joke that we see everyday as `democracy'
and representation by the people, for the people, of
the people. It's as Guidance said to me early on, its
200 years of the greatest l-e ever told, and we're just
really seeing that now as WE become the t-rrorists our
g-vernment is out to protect us from.
The alien history of these events is correct in many
aspects of its wording, it is just the proper
foundation for the stories being told that is missing,
since many of the narrators were the alien overlo-ds
themselves, much as with the texts Zecharia Sitchin
translates. We have tried to correct that oversight
with this 9 volume series.
One of the most devious aspects of the rel-gious
texts on the planet is that they artificially try and
instill in each and every one of us a sense of
separation from everything else in Creation, including
the FATHER. That is what the word `s-n' means,
`without'.
Since this is simply impossible in any sense of the
word, it is only the perception of separateness that
can instead be created with us.
Virtually the whole idea of the Partaking of the
fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and E-il
making us get cast out of the Garden of Eden and making
us `Fall' is nothing more than a li- to make us all
feel self-conscious and ineffective, thereby giving us
an excuse never to try be what it is we truly can be.
Old Ramtha says that it is only because we created in
our thinking a perceived illusion of separation from
the d-vine that we started thinking we were separate
and lowered ourselves in dimensions. As long as we see
the two opposites of Good and ev-l rather than the
oneness of all things in G-d that we are indeed, we are
separated from Go- only by our belief in separation.
While all of us have some part in this early history
of the planet with regard to the `bad parents' we had
in the Annu****i and other such negative agenda alien
ancestors, it is also true that most of us also has
some or even major parts in the early history of the
planet with regards to the `good' parents in the Planet
Earth experiment gone wrong the star seeding of the
planet, as explained in earlier volumes and throughout
the works..
This story is told in two separate chapters of the
earlier volumes where it was explained that the writer
or writers who penned G-nesis wrote it in the context
of the Creation myths of Sumer, Akkad and Egypt, not in
the context of later scientific analysis, but that the
scientific approach to Creation does not hold much
water since there are so many missing links in the
chain of e-olution and so many anomalies such as the
fact that many of our earlier ancestors bore no genetic
relation****p to one another.
For instance, their is no demonstrated relation****p
between Homo Erectus and Neanderthal Man - Homo
Neanderthalis, who appeared from 300,000 years ago,
wearing clothes, practicing ritual burials and w-rfare,
but who mysteriously and quickly disappeared some
35,000 years ago. Over the course of more than 100,000
years of existence the Neanderthals curiously displayed
virtually no technological innovation. In the end, they
simply disappeared. There is no evidence either to
suggest they interbred, nor were they ki-led off by the
Cro-magnons.
Neither is there a demonstrated relation****p between
Neanderthal people and those who came to share space
with them for a few millennia, Homo Sapiens Sapiens
(Human the Wise), anatomically modern folk who suddenly
appeared, leaving remnants from Europe to Australia
sculpture, musical instruments, lamps, trade, and
innovations such as "objects of symbolic significance
communicated through visual images."
"After an ev-lutionary struggle lasting millions of
years, our species emerged as top hominid. And then,
in one spectacular moment we became human. As recently
as 35,000 years ago, Western Europe was still occupied
by Neanderthals, primitive beings for whom art and
progress scarcely existed. Then there was an abrupt
change. Anatomically modern people appeared in Europe,
and suddenly so did sculpture, musical instruments,
lamps, trade and innovation. Within a few thousand
years Neanderthals were gone. Insofar as there was any
single moment when we could be said to become human, it
was at the time of this great leap forward 35,000 years
ago."
As one investigator describes it so appropriately,
all these theories seem to rely heavily for their
continued survival on the implicit lack of interest of
most people in the subject, and an overwhelming
willingness to leave the question to experts.
http://www.4truthseekers.org
http://www.w3.org/TR/htm
(JW This is all the information I have on this
subject at the present time.)
John Winston johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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