On Thu, 1 May 2008 19:49:54 -0700 (PDT), "OBVES@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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<OBVES@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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: If you read my posts very well I had pointed out that the predictions
: of the end of the world -due to their special exceptional nature -
: don't determine who is true or false prophet !
: In the past people in Israel could wait out till the promised signs
: came true or not and then decide whether to follow the prophet who
: predicted the signs.
And if this self-proclaimed "prophet" is _wrong_, then it shows
they were not speaking for God - it's that simple. True prophets
for God are not wrong when they claim an event will happen when
they say it will happen.
You've predicted, in the name of God, the world ending before.
And you've been wrong. The Bible shows us that you do not speak
for God, a fact you choose to ignore and continue to run from:
Your other predictions, both you and Harold Camping, who claim to
be able to discern for us what God says, have been wrong. God's
word then tells us plainly: you are not speaking for God, but you
presume to claim to everyone else that you are. You are not, and
what you're claiming God never laid out in His word.
How do we know all this for a fact? Because God tells us about
such people and how to spot them easily:
Deuteronomy 18:22 KJVR When a prophet speaketh in the name of
the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the
thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken
it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
What you claimed did not come to pass. Hence what you claimed is
a thing which the LORD has not spoken, and you have spoken it
presumptuously.
Why not be afraid of him (this self-proclaimed "prophet")?
Because he's not a prophet at all, but someone dishonestly
claiming to be a prophet of God.
Meanwhile, we are commanded to watch and pray because Christ
could return at _any_ time. Today. Tomorrow. Any time, and we
don't know when.
: In the case of the prediction of the end of the world no one can
: afford waiting out till the very end as risks are great it it is now
: before the end may come one must decide whether to follow the prophet
: or not .
: The nature of such prediction excludes any delay . And what if the
: prediction comes true ?! At that time it will be of no avail to
: accepet the prophet's teachings as it will be too late.
:
: So other factors must be taken into account when we want to know if
: the person is false or true prophet.
: We study the teachings of that person if they agree with the Bible the
: best possible way. And the person with the best christian views is the
: first in line to be called a true prophet ! Regardless of any
: predictions that person made and makes with respect of the end of the
: world.
:
: Note I have been making predictions of the end of the world in the
: past giving various dates.
: There was one for the year 1991 AD and it did not come true fully as I
: had predicted and yet I stayed my course in my independent status of
: God's servant as per Luke 9.49-50. The views I have I see as the best
: views I can have on the Bible and if I make hundred more predictions
: and all fail I will still be in my christian religion as an
: independent servant of God Yahweh !
: Right now I have the prediction for the year 2011 AD .
:
: I believe the end may come but if it doesn't come I have more next
: predictons as back-up predictions.
: I have the year 2034 AD in view but it would be unreasonable to
: predict the year 2034 AD if I have an earlier solid date 2011 AD and
: the end may come in 2011 AD.
:
: You would have to prove you have better religious views than I have
: to convince me to join you .
: I know already if you have the views most christians hold for years
: and are in main-stream religions,churches you are dead wrong . You
: will not get me into catholic religion ! I used to be a catholic and
: myself undermines my catholic conviction using the Bible.
: You will not get me into protestant church ! You will have to come out
: with the new religious views nobody knows except you and small number
: of people you preached to.
:
: With these things in view given above there is no slightest reason
: using the Bible to call me a false prophet !
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