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May 6, 5:21?pm, "Lars Wilson"
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There are various ways of calculating the chronology of mankind.
One of the best is Harold Camping's chronology and you should get hold
of his publications on this topic .
He established with his methods of counting that mankind exists some
13 000 years. He has the date for the Flood in Noah's days : 4990 BC !
And 7000 years will have passed in 2011 AD . He predicts the same year
as I do for the end of the world.
YES, far, far too interesting! But it's my date for the potential
millennium as well. By chronology is absolute and confirmed by
astronomical
texts so perhaps I should share some of my research with Camping. My
astronomical dating is absolute and it agrees with the Biblical dating so
I
can't seriously consider another chronology at this point. 1947, for
instance is linked to the Exodus date. That in turn to the rule of
Solomon,
etc. So it's all connected. Once you have one absolute fixed date, then
it
dates the entire timeline. I've compared that with astronomical texts and
amazing came up with the same dating.
For instance, you're amazed you can Camping have the date of 2011 AD for
the
millennium, but the VAT4956 plus the Bible both date year 37 of
Nebuchadnezzar to 511 BCE. That's not a coincidence. Its just
astronomers
trying to hide the original chronology in revised texts, that's all. Very
simple. But very absolute.
I come up with 2011 AD as well. But that is based upon 1947, which is the
last jubilee in a series of 69 jubilees of 49 years each where the Exodus
is
the first jubilee. So basically instead of 1513 BCE for the Exodus that
JWs
use, the correct date is 1386 BCE. That means the JW date is 127 years too
early. I trust their calculations back to creation which most can follow
easily from the Bible. That means their 1975 date which is based on a
year
after Adam was created becomes 2102 as the date for the end of 6001 years
of
man's existence. I'm more comfortable along with many others that Adam
was
likely 30 years of age when Eve was created, so I add another 29 years to
2102 to arrive at 2131 AD for the end of 6030 years after man's creation.
Now ordinarily we'd presume that would begin the millennium, if we
presumed
the millennium would be the absolute last 1000 years in the 7000-year day.
But we find that God does not say he is "making all things new" until
after
Satan is released for a while and after Judmgent Day. I thus allow 40
years
for Satan's final testing, which is the standard period for tests, and 80
years, one generation, for Judgment Day. That moves the millennium up
for
me, potentially, 120 years bringing 2131 AD forward to 2011 AD.
Now, that seems mighty strange to me YOU have that date and Camping does
too. So I'm thinking it doesn't matter how we arrived at the date, it's
a
message to prepare us for this eventuality that will occur. It's not
about
waiting for 2011 AD though but the potential that Armageddon may begin at
any time now, since nothing is preventing the millennium from beginning
earlier than the cutoff, though in the past, time prophecies have been cut
fairly close, and there are Biblical indicators that Jehovah would wait to
the very last minute, or it would seem so. The longer it delays the more
souls can be saved.
It is very interesting that he came up with the same date 2011 AD
with so differing calculations !
YES! But I have the same calculation. I'm also focussing on 2011 AD!!!
Must be something. I'm also following some of the dates some others are
focussing on, even though their reason for focussing on it might not be
relevant, still I do pay attention, since the Bible says in the last days
holy spirit would be poured out on a lot of different people and they
would
prophecy. So we have to be open to that "inspiration", especially if it
is
matching up with your own.
I am using simplified methods of calculations based on time codes in
the Bible . It is a spiritual chronology - agreed the same way like
the codes are set up in the army and hidden before outsiders !
Interesting. You enlighten me to other chronologies I had not thought of
before. Like the temple is a diametrically described as a CUBE. A number
multiplied by itself is a cube. A square has 4 sides. 4x4 is 16. So I'm
wondering if 16 is of Biblical significance? Basically, probably every
single year ends or begins another pattern. There is not just one. So
Jehovah has a choice to align the "great tribulation" and the millinnium
with various formulas. Which one he ultimately uses is totally up to him.
But we WATCH and try to be as alert as possible.
And what happened this spirtitual chronolgy can confirm the basic
chronologicy the Watchtower came up in the publication :
" Great Babylon Has Fallen ".
It is a sign from God Yahweh how come people without any collusion
with me could had come up with dates they give !
As I said, the Bible says that in the last times Jehovah would pour some
of
his spirit out on all kinds of people, not just the leaders of
organizations. He might give bits and pieces to various ones that make
sense in the complex puzzles of others. Everyone is not given the same
thing.
And now someone who is not from their organization confirms their
dates independently.
I don't follow. But basically I believe Jehovah has used JWs to focus on
im****tant dates, even if they misapply the reason. Case in point 1874 and
1914. Both are critical Biblical dates in my own chronology still. So
the
witnesses focussed on it and drew attention to it, which may have been the
only im****tant thing. So the right dates for the wrong reason still in a
way get the job done.
Look at the coincidence of dates as the proof .
Exactly. I can't ignore your 2011 AD date because that's my date also! I
have to presume God might be telling me something. It's too much of a
coincidence.
What I know it was the year 1984 AD when I understood in a very
unique way 70 weeks and 7 weeks of Daniel 9.24-25.
1984! It doesn't fit any of the basic patterns connected to my
chronology.
Nothing significant that I can think of happened in my life in 84. ??
And I wrote about that so many times and so profusely.
70 weeks cast into far distant future: 7 times 70 years = "7 times=
2520 years " //+ // 70 years
7 weeks projected the same way : 7 times 7 years = " 7 times = 2520
years " // + // 7 years
1984 AD - 70 years = 1914 AD - 2520 years = 607 BC
1984 AD - 2520 years = 537 BC - 70 years = 607 BC
Ohhhh. I see why this dating is significant.
1984 AD - 2520 years = 537 BC 1984 AD + 7 years = 1991 AD
1991 is the end of the 11th hour. One hour is 7 years. 11 hours of
vineyard work beginning in 1914 is 77 years. 77 + 1914 is 1991. So 1991
is
significant, but not particularly 1984. Still interesting.
1914 AD - 1984 AD - 1991 AD
This is a copy of the times when the true christianity was taught !
1984 AD - 1991 AD reminds the period : 29 AD - 33 AD - 36 AD in a
reversed way !
36 AD = 1984 AD 1950 AD = 70 AD 1914 AD = 106 AD
36 AD - 70 weeks as 7 times 70 years = 420 years + 70 years = 455 BC
607 BC + 70 weeks as 2520 years + 70 years = 1984 AD
607 BC - 455 BC = 152 years
Interesting. This is the interval from the fall of Jerusalem to the time
when nehemiah rebuilt the walls in the 20th of Artaxerxes. I wonder if
there is some prophetic fulfillment in connection with Nehemiah's return
to
Jerusalem in the 20th of Artaxerxes in relation to the temple and the
return? I tested for my dates, there was nothing coincidental.
Thanks OBVES.
Lars
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