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Re: ¤¤¤ TRUE AND FALSE PROPHETS IN OUR TIMES ¤¤¤

by "wax" <weatherwax@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 6, 2008 at 06:13 PM

<OBVES@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> Since the world began never a true wor****pper of God Yahweh
> was a false prophet at the same time.
> This is a fundamental guding principle when we want to determine
> who is a true or false prophet .
> Also know that the predictions of the end of the world by the virtue
> of their peculiar nature cannot be taken into account in the
> determination of a prophet if he is true or false.
> So calling a qualified preacher of the Bible who has the true religion
> a false prophet because he made some predictions which did not come to
> pass is misunderstanding of the Bible.

Then we would first have to determine who is "a true wor****pper of God 
Yahweh"?  But there is obviously  a difference of opinion on that and we
are 
not likely to settle it any time soon.

> Using the passages from Deuteronomy to call someone today a
> false prophet is twisting of the Bible.
> Moses promised his people who had  true religion  that God was
> going to send another Prophet like him.
> And he told how his people were going to recognize that
> Prophet- Jesus Christ when he comes the first time .

Moses was not devine.  Jesus is said to be "the son of God" and is given 
devine attributes.   Therefore it would be outragious to describe Jesus as
a 
prophet like Moses.  It is more likely that Moses was speaking of Joshua
son 
of Nun, who like Moses, was a prophet, a law giver and human.  And it was 
Joshua son of Nun who led the Isrealites after the death of Moses.

> It was not instruction about the end times when Christ is to come
> second time and he will come in glory and all people unmistakenly
> will recognize Jesus Christ !
>
>
> God Yahweh gave us the signs that will precede the second
> coming  of the Messiah.
> If He wanted to hide the time of Jesus' coming He would not give
> us a single sign.

The prophecies said that the Messiah would sit on the throne of David and 
restore the kingdom of Israel.  Jesus never sat on the throne of David,
and 
the Kingdom of Israel was never restored.  (Modern Israel is a republic,
not 
a kingdom.)  Therefore the signs of the first coming of the Messiah has
not 
been fulfilled.

> You cannot wait out the prediction made by a true wor****pper
> of God till the very end to find out if he is a true or false prophet.
> It will be of no avail !

Then a false prophet is just as useful as a true prophet, and a true
prophet 
becomes useless.

> Okay. Suppose you decided to wait and see how my prediction
> of the end of the world in 2011 AD comes out in  that year . You
> remained in the same religion you are now in and your religion I
> see as contrary to the Bible. Accepting my teachings you
> postponed untill that decisive time . And the year 2011 AD rolls
> in and the end of the world occurs as I foretold . What are you
> going to do then ?
> You will recognize that I am a true prophet and what ? It will do
> you nothing at that time as it will be too late.
> That is why the predictions of the end of the world must be
> excluded in the process of determining who is a true or false
> prophet.

Therefore your prophecy of the end of the world in 2011 AD is worthless.

--Wax
 




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"OBVES@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-05 21:42:06 
Re: ¤¤¤ TRUE AND FALSE PROPHETS IN OUR TIMES ¤¤¤
"H.E. Eickleberry, J  2008-07-06 07:16:09 
Re: ¤¤¤ TRUE AND FALSE PROPHETS IN OUR TIMES ¤¤¤
"wax" <weath  2008-07-06 18:13:41 
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"OBVES@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-18 19:35:03 
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"Sockie The Apostate  2008-07-19 03:58:43 
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"Sockie The Apostate  2008-07-22 16:41:06 
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"OBVES@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-21 21:18:29 
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"OBVES@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-23 21:33:56 
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"Sockie The Apostate  2008-07-24 17:57:29 
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"OBVES@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-07 21:48:45 
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unsurreality_2005@[EMAIL   2008-07-09 00:15:09 
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"OBVES@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-11 10:32:08 
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"wax" <weath  2008-07-12 02:41:50 
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unsurreality_2005@[EMAIL   2008-07-11 14:11:51 
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"wax" <weath  2008-07-12 01:57:21 
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"Mistylein" <  2008-07-12 20:54:13 
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"H.E. Eickleberry, J  2008-07-13 01:53:21 
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unsurreality_2005@[EMAIL   2008-07-11 14:26:46 
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"OBVES@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-11 14:39:25 
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"Sockie The Apostate  2008-07-11 19:49:56 
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"Florida NRA SW"  2008-07-11 20:59:51 
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Al Smith <invalid@[EMA  2008-07-12 01:55:55 
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Pastor Dave <ananias91  2008-07-12 03:58:09 
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"Sockie The Apostate  2008-07-12 22:36:01 
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"M.M. Martinson"  2008-07-12 22:34:30 
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"wax" <weath  2008-07-12 03:29:58 
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unsurreality_2005@[EMAIL   2008-07-11 17:43:14 
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unsurreality_2005@[EMAIL   2008-07-11 17:52:21 
Re: ??? TRUE AND FALSE PROPHETS IN OUR TIMES ???
"M.M. Martinson"  2008-07-12 22:30:35 
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unsurreality_2005@[EMAIL   2008-07-11 22:46:17 
Re: ??? TRUE AND FALSE PROPHETS IN OUR TIMES ???
"wax" <weath  2008-07-12 06:14:56 
Re: ¤¤¤ TRUE AND FALSE PROPHETS IN OUR TIMES ¤¤¤
Gabriel <gabriel_bapti  2008-07-12 09:05:07 
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"Florida NRA SW"  2008-07-12 11:04:54 
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Pastor Dave <ananias91  2008-07-13 06:24:21 
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"Mistylein" <  2008-07-13 01:04:41 
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unsurreality_2005@[EMAIL   2008-07-12 16:02:20 

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