On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:27:26 -0500,
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"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>"Randy ®" <pulpitfire@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:04:12 -0500,
>> in article <g5aa4e$2rk$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>> "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>><OBVES@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>news:a8a5af01-0864-43e4-85f7-542acfe65e9f@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> This one single issue of Sabbath is so significant that by how we
>>>> understand the Sabbath we can know if we are in the true religion God
>>>> Yahweh-God of the Bible accepts us as His children.
>>>
>>>Oh, gee, you forgot the RIGHT convention that the early church
followed:
>>>Sunday is THE LORD'S DAY, the day of COMMENCEMENT and ACTIVATION, as
>>>opposed
>>>to the Sabbath Day of the Jews, which was a day of TERMINATION and
REST.
>>>
>>>[snip the rest of the cult dawdle]
>>
>>
>> You're the one who is the obvious cult-boy:
>>
>> Heb 4:9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of
>> God;
>> Heb 4:10 for anyone who enters God's rest also rests from his
>> own work, just as God did from his.
>> Heb 4:11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that
>> rest, so that no one will fall by following their example of
>> disobedience.
>
>Hey, moron.
You're the _moron_.
>1) Hebrews DOESN'T BELONG IN THE BIBLE.
And thus, the _moron_ reveals that, in order for his cult lies
to pass, he hast to deny and attack our Bibles at every turn!
>2) The Lord HASN'T "ENTERED INTO" HIS REST YET, or else John wouldn't
write
>that God HAS been, IS NOW, and WILL BE creating until this creation is
OVER
ibid. Hebrews plainly states,
Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he
said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my
rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of
the world.
Heb 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on
this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his
works.
Heb 4:5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my
rest.
>(meaning we're only in the sixth day of a seven-day "over-structure," NOT
>BASED on a LITERALIST READING of PROPHETIC PASSAGES, but a PROPHETIC
one).
Pure fabrication and denial, as you rail against the plain
teaching of Scripture.
>3) THE LORD'S DAY is NOT the SABBATH DAY.
Didn't say it was. I said "Christ" is the Sabbath, _MORON_.
>The Sabbath Day (at whatever level of interpretation) CONCLUDES.
ibid.
>The Lord's Day (at whatever level of interpretation) COMMENCES.
ibid.
>Christians ARE NOT CHILDREN OF THE SABBATH (with which the Lord got
>disgusted, the people always looking backward instead of forward):
>Christians are the children OF THE LORD'S DAY.
ibid.
>> Christ is the Sabbath rest of God (Hebrews). We are
>> instructed to enter His rest at all times, not just once per
>> week.
>
>Idiot.
(Ironically, your definition of "idiot", is someone who says
something _YOU_ didn't know! That's why you called Isender an
"IDIOT", for using the word "argumentation", just because
_YOU_ had never heard it in your 46 years, you arrogant punk!)
>We ENTER INTO THAT REST when THE REST COMES, i.e. the "seventh day" of
the
>(for lack of a better frame of reference) UNIVERSAL WEEK.
_Christ_ IS the "rest", _MORON_.
>> It's only when you rest from merit-based gospels like Ike's,
>
>Who said anything about a "merit-based gospel," idiot boy?
You betray your own merit based gospel when you attack the
eternal security of believers, as set forth in Romans 8. The
only way people who become justified, can fail to also be
glorified, is if some part of their salvation depends on them,
and their merits. Contrary to your lies, those whom God
justifies He also glorifies. It's an established, predestined
fact. Yet you attack people like Carl, for believing in the
eternal security of the believer, not realizing it betrays
your own merit based gospel, and therefore, doom to damnation.
>> in the Sabbath of Christ, that you can actually "commence" and
>> bear fruit for God.
>
>Idiot: A REST comes AFTER you've tending your orchard, NOT WHILE YOU'RE
>DOING IT.
No, _you're_ the idiot, since your statement, here, does not
conflict with what Hebrews, or I just said:
Rest from tending _YOUR_ orchard (typified by Cain bringing
the rejected fruit of his fields to God), comes _AFTER_ you
"cease" from _YOUR_ own works.
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath
ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Rest in Christ (typified by the slain lamb Abel brought) comes
_BEFORE_ you begin tending God's orchard (doing His will).
Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him:
for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he
is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
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