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Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?

by Raymond <Bluerhymer@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 26, 2008 at 04:55 PM

On Feb 26, 7:41=EF=BF=BDpm, YoHarvey <bailey...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Feb 26, 7:32=EF=BF=BDpm, Raymond <Bluerhy...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > One observation of physics suggests that for every action there is a
> > reaction.
>
> > A similar condition seems to exist within the historic JFK
> > assassination investigation. For every defender of a conspiracy
> > theory, =EF=BF=BDthere is a champion for non-conspiracy.
>
> > It appears that each of us begins with a pre-conceived notion about
> > what is correct, and seek only evidence and testimony that sup****ts
> > our premise. And then, there are the predators that search for new
> > analysts, from both sides of the
> > issue ,hoping to find fault and create as much dissension as possible.
>
> > A recent survey revealed that 85% of those individuals interviewed
> > believe that the death of JFK involved a conspiracy. Yet, if these
> > same participants, in the survey, were questioned about why;
=EF=BF=BDit=

> > becomes obvious that they know so little about the details of the
> > event that their opinion
> > is worth no more than their reason for having a favorite color.
>
> > The Warren Wizards, themselves, were guilty of a similar pattern of
> > conduct. If testimony of a witness failed to meet their eventual, pre-
> > conceived, lone-assassin pronouncement, the witness became only a
> > footnote.
>
> > EXAMPLES: The testimony of Earlene Roberts, who said a police car
> > stopped and blew the horn in front of the rooming house, while LHO was
> > "getting his gun."
>
> > Now, if Earlene had been an apartment owner, =EF=BF=BDin Arlington,
inst=
ead of
> > a common landlady, =EF=BF=BDin a cheap rooming house, in Oak Cliff,
=EF=
=BF=BDthe
> > Wizards might have devoted a chapter to the reliability of her
> > testimony. Not the case. Roberts was "confused."
>
> > Did Ruby know Tippit ? Not so, said the Wizards. On whose word did
> > they rely? =EF=BF=BDOn the word of the hero of Nov. 24.-Jack Ruby
himsel=
f - or
> > the word of the honorable defenders of our homes and streets - the
> > other officers of law within the Dallas community.
>
> > Despite the claim of the WC that Tippit was not known to frequent
> > nightclubs and had no reason during his tour of police duties to enter
> > any of Ruby's clubs, =EF=BF=BDthere is testimony by Jack's sister, Eve
G=
rant,
> > to indicate that Tippit was in the Vegas nightclub not long before
> > the
> > assassination.
>
> > From Eva's testimony when asked by a member of the WC staff if Jack
> > knew J.D. Tippit - Grant answered:
> > " I don't -I don't know, =EF=BF=BDall I could tell you is that Jack
live=
d in
> > the Oak Cliff area for a couple of years or maybe a year and a half
> > and Tippit, =EF=BF=BDbeing of that area, he could have run into him
and =
known
> > him =EF=BF=BDslightly. HE DIDN"T KNOW HIM AS WELL AS OTHER POLICEMAN
muc=
h
> > closer than him, =EF=BF=BDbut since all this happened, one of my
coworke=
rs,
> > Leo Torti, showed me a magazine and Tippit was in our club sometime a
> > month previous to this-previous to his killing."
>
> > MR. HERBERT:" =EF=BF=BDWas it a picture of Tippit?"
> > GRANT: =EF=BF=BD"It was a picture of Tippit, and he said, " Do you
remem=
ber he
> > talked to you up at the front, and he was in September or October or
> > November sometime."
>
> > BURLESON:" Was that the Carousel or the Vegas?"
>
> > GRANT: "The Vegas, and while I looked at him I remembered that he
> > looked familiar..."
>
> > BURLESON:" Mr. Herbert, I think that is all I have along that
> > line."
> > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDVol. 14, p 486.
>
> > At this point of inquiry, the questioners ended what might have proven
> > to be a fruitful revelation, but as was generally the case, they muted
> > the possibility of producing testimony that would lead to a possible
> > conspiracy.
>
> > When Harry Officer Harry Olsen was asked if Ruby knew Tippit:
> > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDOLSEN: "It seemed that he did know Officer Tippit."
>
> > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDSPECTER: "Why do you say , "It seemed that he did
kno=
w Officer
> > Tippit."
>
> > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDOLSEN: I believe he said that Tippit had been to
the =
club."
> > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Vol.: 14, p. 632
>
> > The picture presented to the public by the DPD and the WC would appear
> > to be the perfect family living in harmony with the world, but even
> > before the revelations of J.D's adulterous conduct by the HSC in 1977,
> > there was an indication that something was wrong at 238 Glencarin, the
> > home of the Tippits. Heard on the police radio transcripts shortly
> > after Tippit was pronounced dead at Methodist Hospital- the following
> > communication:
>
> > CALLER =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=
=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=BD=
 =EF=BF=BD MESSAGE
> > 210 =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=
=EF=BF=BD Has anyone made arrangements or
> > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD picked up =EF=BF=BDTippit's wife yet?
>
> > Dispatcher: =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=BD =
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD I'm not sure =EF=BF=BD210
> > =EF=BF=BD210 =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=BD=
 =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=
=BF=BD If you give me his address, I will
> > go
> > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDgo there and pick her up. I do not
> > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDhave anybody to send right now.
>
> > 210 =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=
=EF=BF=BDI'll call 505 for the address.
>
> > Dispatcher =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 10:4, 1:51 pm.
>
> > At 1:56 pm
> > 210 ; =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD I'm
downtown=
..
> > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD J.D. Tippit lives =EF=BF=BDat7500
> > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD So. Beckley. I'm running Code 2
> > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD (URGENT) TO HIS WIFE'S HOUSE
>
> > Dispatcher: =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=BD =
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Yes, go ahead. 1: 56 pm.
>
> > The 1963 Dallas City Directory listed the name of John E. Boone as the
> > resident of 7500 So. Beckley. Telephone CA 43847.
>
> > Occupation: Press Operator at the Dallas Times Herald.
> > The above transcript can be found: CE 705, Vol. 17, PP. 471-472-473.
>
> > Ruth Paine became the darling of the age, and whatever she said became
> > The Gospel of Ruth. Yet, among the more realistic members of the
> > Oswald Inquisition, a special investigation of Ruth and "hen-pecked-
> > hubby," Mike,
> > was in order. That thought was shut down post-haste. We can only
> > wonder why. =EF=BF=BDSome believe that because the Paines were
"rolled-o=
ver"
> > agents of the intelligence
> > community, they deserved a hands-off treatment and a silent
> > offering of immunity.
>
> > Ass't D.A. Wm. Alexander felt that "more should have been done with
> > the Paines." =EF=BF=BDI agree, and it isn't too late.
>
> > Then, again, who was Alexander? Here was a guy who told the FBI that
> > he didn't know of any connection between Ruby and the underworld. If
> > there was such a connection, he believed "it would have come to the
> > attention of his office." He also had a signed pass to Ruby's club,
> > found among Ruby's possessions, and had spoke to Jack the day before
> > the assassination.
>
> > (CE 1628, CE 1322, pp.735-36 A microfilm of the actual cards revealed
> > a signed card for every name listed, except that of Alexander's card
> > is curiously missing. JFK microfilm, Vol. 5, pp R 13-28)
>
> > But, Que scais-je? - What do I know?
>
> The point of this thread is what? =EF=BF=BDIs it not the same rhetoric
for=
 44
> years? =EF=BF=BDGive it a rest.-
>
> - Show quoted text -

Harris? What s your PROOF the mob helped win Illinois for JFK in 1960?
Options

YoHarvey

Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk
From: YoHarvey <bailey...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:51:55 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Feb 24 2008 6:51 pm

Subject: Harris? What s your PROOF the mob helped win Illinois for JFK
in 1960?

Harris?  Put up or stfu!

   Reply to author

This was 48 yeats ago   Give IT a rest.- Take a Viagra and go back to
your **** site.
 




 18 Posts in Topic:
Reliability of Witnesses ?
Raymond <Bluerhymer@[E  2008-02-26 16:32:56 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
YoHarvey <baileynme@[E  2008-02-26 16:41:56 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
Raymond <Bluerhymer@[E  2008-02-26 16:55:53 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
YoHarvey <baileynme@[E  2008-02-26 16:58:16 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
Raymond <Bluerhymer@[E  2008-02-28 11:40:26 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
Raymond <Bluerhymer@[E  2008-02-28 12:56:45 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
Gil Jesus <gjjmail@[EM  2008-02-28 14:37:47 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
YoHarvey <baileynme@[E  2008-02-28 15:40:56 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
Bud <sirslick@[EMAIL P  2008-02-28 15:52:49 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
Bud <sirslick@[EMAIL P  2008-02-28 16:05:04 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
Raymond <Bluerhymer@[E  2008-02-28 17:02:24 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
"robcap...@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-28 17:24:16 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
Bud <sirslick@[EMAIL P  2008-02-28 17:54:23 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
Bud <sirslick@[EMAIL P  2008-02-29 02:37:16 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
Raymond <Bluerhymer@[E  2008-03-01 15:14:36 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
Bud <sirslick@[EMAIL P  2008-03-01 15:58:05 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
Raymond <Bluerhymer@[E  2008-03-01 16:39:36 
Re: Reliability of Witnesses ?
sirslick@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-02 03:54:58 

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