On Feb 29, 5:37=C2=A0am, Bud <sirsl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Raymond wrote:
> > On Feb 26, 7:32=EF=BF=BDpm, Raymond <Bluerhy...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > One observation of physics suggests that for every action there is a
> > > reaction.
>
> > > A similar condition seems to exist within the historic JFK
> > > assassination investigation. For every defender of a conspiracy
> > > theory, =EF=BF=BDthere is a champion for non-conspiracy.
>
> > > It appears that each of us begins with a pre-conceived notion about
> > > what is correct, and seek only evidence and testimony that sup****ts
> > > our premise. And then, there are the predators that search for new
> > > analysts, from both sides of the
> > > issue ,hoping to find fault and create as much dissension as
possible.=
>
> > > A recent survey revealed that 85% of those individuals interviewed
> > > believe that the death of JFK involved a conspiracy. Yet, if these
> > > same participants, in the survey, were questioned about why;
=EF=BF=BD=
it
> > > becomes obvious that they know so little about the details of the
> > > event that their opinion
> > > is worth no more than their reason for having a favorite color.
>
> > > The Warren Wizards, themselves, were guilty of a similar pattern of
> > > conduct. If testimony of a witness failed to meet their eventual,
pre-=
> > > conceived, lone-assassin pronouncement, the witness became only a
> > > footnote.
>
> > > EXAMPLES: The testimony of Earlene Roberts, who said a police car
> > > stopped and blew the horn in front of the rooming house, while LHO
was=
> > > "getting his gun."
>
> > > Now, if Earlene had been an apartment owner, =EF=BF=BDin Arlington,
in=
stead of
> > > a common landlady, =EF=BF=BDin a cheap rooming house, in Oak Cliff,
=
=EF=BF=BDthe
> > > Wizards might have devoted a chapter to the reliability of her
> > > testimony. Not the case. Roberts was "confused."
>
> > > Did Ruby knowTippit? Not so, said the Wizards. On whose word did
> > > they rely? =EF=BF=BDOn the word of the hero of Nov. 24.-Jack Ruby
hims=
elf - or
> > > the word of the honorable defenders of our homes and streets - the
> > > other officers of law within the Dallas community.
>
> > > Despite the claim of the WC thatTippitwas not known to frequent
> > > nightclubs and had no reason during his tour of police duties to
enter=
> > > any of Ruby's clubs, =EF=BF=BDthere is testimony by Jack's sister,
Eve=
Grant,
> > > to indicate thatTippitwas in the Vegas nightclub not long before
> > > the
> > > assassination.
>
> > > From Eva's testimony when asked by a member of the WC staff if Jack
> > > knew J.D.Tippit- Grant answered:
> > > " I don't -I don't know, =EF=BF=BDall I could tell you is that Jack
li=
ved in
> > > the Oak Cliff area for a couple of years or maybe a year and a half
> > > andTippit, =EF=BF=BDbeing of that area, he could have run into him
and=
known
> > > him =EF=BF=BDslightly. HE DIDN"T KNOW HIM AS WELL AS OTHER POLICEMAN
m=
uch
> > > closer than him, =EF=BF=BDbut since all this happened, one of my
cowor=
kers,
> > > Leo Torti, showed me a magazine andTippitwas in our club sometime a
> > > month previous to this-previous to his killing."
>
> > > MR. HERBERT:" =EF=BF=BDWas it a picture ofTippit?"
> > > GRANT: =EF=BF=BD"It was a picture ofTippit, and he said, " Do you
reme=
mber he
> > > talked to you up at the front, and he was in September or October or
> > > November sometime."
>
> > > BURLESON:" Was that the Carousel or the Vegas?"
>
> > > GRANT: "The Vegas, and while I looked at him I remembered that he
> > > looked familiar..."
>
> > > BURLESON:" Mr. Herbert, I think that is all I have along that
> > > line."
> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDVol. 14, p 486.
>
> > > At this point of inquiry, the questioners ended what might have
proven=
> > > to be a fruitful revelation, but as was generally the case, they
muted=
> > > the possibility of producing testimony that would lead to a possible
> > > conspiracy.
>
> > > When Harry Officer Harry Olsen was asked if Ruby knewTippit:
> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDOLSEN: "It seemed that he did know
OfficerTippit."
>
> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDSPECTER: "Why do you say , "It seemed that he did
k=
now OfficerTippit."
>
> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDOLSEN: I believe he said thatTippithad been to
the =
club."
> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Vol.: 14, p. 632
>
> > > The picture presented to the public by the DPD and the WC would
appear=
> > > to be the perfect family living in harmony with the world, but even
> > > before the revelations of J.D's adulterous conduct by the HSC in
1977,=
> > > there was an indication that something was wrong at 238 Glencarin,
the=
> > > home of the Tippits. Heard on the police radio transcripts shortly
> > > afterTippitwas pronounced dead at Methodist Hospital- the following
> > > communication:
>
> > > CALLER =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=
=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=BD=
=EF=BF=BD MESSAGE
> > > 210 =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=
=EF=BF=BD Has anyone made arrangements or
> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=BD =
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD picked up =EF=BF=BDTippit'swife yet?
>
> > > Dispatcher: =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD I'm not sure =EF=BF=BD210
> > > =EF=BF=BD210 =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=
=EF=BF=BD If you give me his address, I will
> > > go
> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=BD =
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDgo there and pick her up. I do not
> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=BD =
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDhave anybody to send right now.
>
> > > 210 =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=
=EF=BF=BDI'll call 505 for the address.
>
> > > Dispatcher =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=BD=
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 10:4, 1:51 pm.
>
> > > At 1:56 pm
> > > 210 ; =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=
=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD I'm
downt=
own.
> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=BD =
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD J.D.Tippitlives =EF=BF=BDat7500
> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=BD =
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD So. Beckley. I'm running Code 2
> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=BD =
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD (URGENT) TO HIS WIFE'S HOUSE
>
> > > Dispatcher: =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Yes, go ahead. 1: 56 pm.
>
> > > The 1963 Dallas City Directory listed the name of John E. Boone as
the=
> > > resident of 7500 So. Beckley. Telephone CA 43847.
>
> > > Occupation: Press Operator at the Dallas Times Herald.
> > > The above transcript can be found: CE 705, Vol. 17, PP. 471-472-473.
>
> > > Ruth Paine became the darling of the age, and whatever she said
became=
> > > The Gospel of Ruth. Yet, among the more realistic members of the
> > > Oswald Inquisition, a special investigation of Ruth and "hen-pecked-
> > > hubby," Mike,
> > > was in order. That thought was shut down post-haste. We can only
> > > wonder why. =EF=BF=BDSome believe that because the Paines were
"rolled=
-over"
> > > agents of the intelligence
> > > community, they deserved a hands-off treatment and a silent
> > > offering of immunity.
>
> > > Ass't D.A. Wm. Alexander felt that "more should have been done with
> > > the Paines." =EF=BF=BDI agree, and it isn't too late.
>
> > > Then, again, who was Alexander? Here was a guy who told the FBI that
> > > he didn't know of any connection between Ruby and the underworld. If
> > > there was such a connection, he believed "it would have come to the
> > > attention of his office." He also had a signed pass to Ruby's club,
> > > found among Ruby's possessions, and had spoke to Jack the day before
> > > the assassination.
>
> > > (CE 1628, CE 1322, pp.735-36 A microfilm of the actual cards
revealed
> > > a signed card for every name listed, except that of Alexander's card
> > > is curiously missing. JFK microfilm, Vol. 5, pp R 13-28)
>
> > > But, Que scais-je? - What do I know?
>
> > MORE ON TIPPIT:
>
> > From the Warren Commission:
>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "At about 12:44 p.m., on November 22, the radio
dispatcher=
on
> > Channel 1 ordered all downtown patrol squads to re****t to Elm and
> > Houston, code 3 (emergency)." At 12:45 , the dispatcher ordered No.78
> > (Tippit ) to "move into the Oak Cliff area." At about 12:45, Tippit
> > re****ted that he was in the central Oak Cliff area at Lancaster and
> > Eighth. =C2=A0The dispatcher then advised Tippit to "be at large for
any=
> > emergency that comes in." (WE p. 165)
>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0It is not sufficient to say that Tippit alone was ordered
i=
nto the
> > Oak Cliff section of Dallas at the height of excitement and bedlam. In
> > the actual police transcript, the dispatcher orders two policemen into
> > the Oak Cliff area at 12:45, No. 87 and No. 78. No 87 was patrolman
> > R.C. Nelson. (see CE 1974, p.28)
>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0After a close examination of the available evidence, it
wil=
l become
> > clear that there is reason to believe that no such order was
> > dispatched that day.
>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0In April 1964, pressure was put on Chief of Police Curry
to=
explain
> > Tippit's presence in District 91 where he was shot to death. This
> > April request came after the WC had received two other transcripts of
> > the Dallas transmissions supposedly made on 11-22-63. =C2=A0The
Commissi=
on
> > had hoped to find an explanation for Tippit's reason to be in District
> > 91.
>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0From Reasonable Doubt by Henry Hurt:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0"The Warren Commission continued to struggle with the
probl=
em
> > throughout the spring. It heard testimony from three supervisors from
> > the =C2=A0Dallas Police Dept. who tried to explain why Tippit was in
the=
> > wrong place. The reasons were purely speculative, vaguely suggesting
> > the demonstrably absurd possibility that Tippit was heading for Dealey
> > Plaza four miles away to be of assistance there. During this
> > testimony, there never was any reference to the possibility that
> > Tippit might have been ordered to central Oak Cliff by the radio
> > dispatcher. And, of course, the three supervisors were quite aware of
> > the intense effort being made to find an answer to the riddle.
>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0"The mystery remained unsolved until finally, in the
spring=
, the WC
> > requested and received a verbatim transcript - not one edited to
> > include only transmissions related to Kennedy and Tippit. The
> > Commission hoped that such a transcript might yield the elusive
> > answer.
>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0" It must have been a stunning revelation for the
commissio=
n to
> > discover that the new transcripts contained, at least, the badly
> > needed answer to the puzzle. According to the transcript - and
> > sup****ted by the actual tape-there was an order given to Tippit at
> > 12:45 p.m., an inexplicable instruction believed to be unique in the
> > Dallas Police Dept., it also had not been in the first transcript.
> > Moreover, none of the police supervisors who testified earlier
> > indicated that they knew anything about it. " (Hurt, p.160)
>
> > =C2=A0 The first transcript submitted to the WC was SAWYER EXHIBIT A.
Th=
ere
> > is no recognizable mention of Tippit or an order to "move into the Oak
> > Cliff area."
>
> > =C2=A0 The second transcript submitted , the 12:45 order directing him
t=
o
> > Oak Cliff was CE 705. It simply says: " 87-78 =C2=A0move into Central
Oa=
k
> > Cliff." There is no response by either officer."
>
> > =C2=A0 The strange thing about the order is that Officer R.C. Nelson,
No=
> > 87, is also instructed to move into Central Oak Cliff along with
> > Tippit. Why =C2=A0would these two policemen be singled out to patrol a
> > district that was already being patrolled by Officer Wm. D. Mentzel.
>
> > =C2=A0 Also strange about the dispatch; neither officer responded to
the=
> > dispatcher that they heard the order. =C2=A0The next time Nelson is
hear=
d
> > from is at 12:52 when he signaled the dispatcher and informed him that
> > he is " Out down here." At 1:22 Nelson again re****ts that he is at Elm
> > and Houston, the site of the assassination.
>
> > =C2=A0 In 1984, Henry Hurt interviewed R.C. Nelson in a parking lot in
> > Corsicana, Texas, where Nelson was then in private business. Nelson
> > told the author that he had waited a long time to tell his story for
> > the public record, but not without payment.
>
> > =C2=A0 When Hurt asked Nelson: "Did you hear the dispatcher's order
tell=
ing
> > you to go there ?" Nelson replied, "I'm not sure what you mean. I had
> > rather not talk about that." He then told Hurt that he considered that
> > to be part of the story he was willing to negotiate. Hurt never did
> > get an answer. He was not willing to pay Nelson. ( HURT, pp.
> > 161-62-63)
>
> > =C2=A0 Sgt. Calvin Owens, J.D.'s supervisor for ten years was no help
in=
> > explaining the officer's movements. Owens , who was in his car at
> > 12:45, when the order was allegedly given, did not know that Tippit
> > had been moved. He was surprised to learn that J.D.was in District 91
> > and went there when the officer was shot. At 1:33 Owens contacted the
> > dispatcher and asked him :" Do you know what kind of a call he was
> > on?" The dispatcher answered "What kind of what?" Owens asked, "Was he
> > on a call or anything?" =C2=A0The dispatcher answered, "NO."
>
> > =C2=A0The only reasonable answer to the tape discrepancies is that the
> > tapes were altered to place Tippit in the district where he died
> > without admitting his reason for being there. There is lots more
> > evidence to prove that the tapes were altered, but it would require
> > far too much time and space on this forum to accomplish.
>
> > Was Tippit on his own and looking for Oswald to kill him?
=C2=A0Probably=
..
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Of course you`ve offered nothing to sup****t that amazing
> possibility.
>
> > When Marina asked Lee, at the police station, =C2=A0why he shot the
> > policeman, =C2=A0Lee told her: " It was kill or be killed."
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Really? He admitted he killed Tippit to Marina? Then he
lied =
when
> he said hadn`t killed anyone, and lied when he said he was a patsy.
The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all your Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all your Tears wash out a Word of it.
the rubaiyat - omar khayyam - 11th century
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