On Mar 3, 12:07=C2=A0am, Raymond <Bluerhy...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Mar 1, 9:45=C2=A0pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Raymond wrote:
> > > On Mar 1, 4:27=EF=BF=BDam, Raymond <Bluerhy...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> Ruby and the Ramp
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> > >> PROBE
> > >> Index Vol. 6 No. 3 January-February, 1999
>
> > >> R. F. Gallagher presents a compelling case based on a microscopic
> > >> examinination of the evidence that Ruby entered the basement to
shoot=
> > >> Oswald with assistance from the Dallas Police.
>
> > >> Ruby enetred the Dallas Police Station through a door, in the
alley,
> > >> next to the Western Ubion Office that was either left open or
opened
> > >> by a policeman friend of Jack Ruby
>
> > >> Raymond Gallagher explores the mystery of how Jack Ruby made it so
> > >> easily and conveniently into the basement of the Dallas jail with
suc=
h
> > >> exquisite timing. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.
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> > >> CTKA/Probe Back Issues Index
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> > >> CTKA formerly published Probe Magazine. Most of the articles on
this
> > >> site ... Copies of these back issues can be ordered from The Last
> > >> Hurrah Bookstore This article , by Gallagher, is worth the effort.
>
> > >> From the Chairman's Desk
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> > >>http://www.ctka.net/fullarticles.html
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> > > Ruby and the Ramp
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> > > The Warren Commission claims that Ruby entered the basement of the
> > > Dallas Police Station via the Main Street ramp. He did not. He
entered=
> > > the building through a side door that is not less than fifty feet
from=
> > > the door of
> > > the Western Union building It is still there.
>
> > Then why would it take Jack Ruby 5 minutes to walk 50 feet?
>
> > > Why would Jack say that he entered the basement of the jail via the
> > > ramp if he entered the building by another entrance? What difference
> > > would it make? Everyone knows that he was in the basement and shot
> > > Oswald.
>
> > > There is no genuine evidence, other than Jack's own story, that he
> > > entered via the ramp. If there is, I sure would like to see it. Even
> > > the Warren Wizards doubted the tall tale. After claiming that Ruby
> > > entered the basement by way of the ramp, the Re****t adds:
>
> > > Although the sum of the available evidence tends to sup****t Ruby's
> > > claim that he entered the Main Street ramp, there is other evidence
> > > not consistent with Ruby's story. If Ruby entered by any other
means,
> > > he would have had to pass through the Police and Courts Building,
and
> > > then secondly through one of the five doors into the basement, all
of
> > > which, according to the testimony of police officers were secured .
>
> > > The testimony was not completely positive about one of the doors.
> > > (Re****t, pp. 221-222)
>
> > > Both the police and the Commission were concerned about the one
door.
> > > But they were careful not to investigate the issue to a positive
> > > conclusion because it would almost surely implicate one or more
> > > members of the Dallas police force.
>
> > > The door in question was near the passenger elevator that opens into
> > > the Municipal Building.
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> > > "Despite the thoroughness with which the search was conducted, there
> > > still existed one and perhaps two weak points in controlling access
to=
> > > the garage. Testimony did not resolve positively whether or not the
> > > stairway door near the public elevators was locked both from the
> > > inside and outside as was necessary to secure it effectively. "
> > > (Re****t. p. 212)
>
> > > In his book Conspiracy, Anthony Summers deals with this particular
> > > door:
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> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0"In 1979, the Assassination Committee rejected the old
st=
ory that
> > > Ruby got in down the ramp from the street. Following its own
research
> > > on the spot, it plumped instead for a brand-new hypothesis. The
> > > Committee found that Ruby could have got into the basement by
> > > slipping
> > > down an alleyway at the side of the police station. In the middle of
> > > the alley is a door opening onto the ground floor of the building
> > > which houses the police station, and from there Ruby could have
> > > reached the basement. It was a far less conspicuous means of entry
> > > than the ramp route and therefore a better choice for a premeditated
> > > approach. The Committee had to consider whether, if he indeed took
> > > this route. Ruby would have been stopped by a locked internal door
> > > leading to the basement. On this point, it once again encountered
the
> > > ubiquitous voice of Sergeant (Patrick) Dean. It turned out that he
had=
> > > vascillated in his statements as to whether the door could be opened
> > > from the outside. On one occasion he had not answered the question
and=
> > > then said he had been assured by the maintenance man that the door
was=
> > > secure from both sides. Two maintenance men and a ****ter said the
> > > opposite. They asserted it could be opened without using a key, from
> > > the direction Ruby would have entered." ( p. 469, 1991 edition)
>
> > > The Warren Re****t provides us with a diagram of the basement of the
> > > Dallas Police Building (CE 2179), which shows the three elevators
> > > opening into the garage, and the steps, by the elevators that Ruby
> > > would have used to gain entrance to the basement. They do not
however
> > > provide a floor plan of the main floor that would show the alleyway
> > > door that Jack surely used to enter the building.
>
> > > COMM EX 2179
> >
>http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/html/WH_Vol24_0..=
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> > > The truth about the door can be seen by anyone who visits the corner
> > > of Pearl and Main streets, in Dallas. Standing in front of the
former
> > > Western Union Office Building, the door to the Municipal Building
can
> > > be seen . It is less than a child's stone throw away from the door
to
> > > the Western Union. Additonally, there are over 20 windows on the
side
> > > of the Municipal Building that could have been used to signal Jack
> > > that the transfer was in progress.
>
> > > I wrote an article in PROBE. March-April, 1999 titled Ruby and the
> > > Ramp. I included pictures of the scene showing the door to the side
> > > of
> > > the police building and the front of the Western Union Office.
> > > Perhaps
> > > Probe could provide a copy of the article.
>
> > > From the Chairman's Desk at PROBE Magazine:
>
> > > "Raymond Galllagher explores the mystery of how Jack Ruby made it so
> > > easily and conveniently into the basement of the Dallas jail with
> > > such
> > > exquisite timing. As they say, a picture is worth a rhousand words."
>
> > > A =C2=A0book, No More Silence, written by Larry A . Sneed, provides
mo=
re
> > > information on the subject. I will leave that to interested people
to
> > > read , but it is convincing evidence that Ruby entered by way of the
> > > door I described.
>
> > > The Sneed witnesses include police officers, deputy sheriffs, and
> > > government officials.
>
> > > Before anyone begins to write negative posts about the contents of
> > > this effort, make sure that you have exhausted your own research.
Few
> > > still believe that Jack entered via the ramp.
>
> > > ONE MORE TIME
>
> > > Hopefully, I will use witness testimony to sup****t the proposition
> > > that Jack Ruby did not enter the basement of the police building by
> > > way of the Main Street ramp. At least three of the police officers
> > > told Larry Sneed, author of No More Silence, that Ruby undoubtedly
> > > entered the basement via the alleyway doors that ran north and south
> > > alongside the Western Union office.
>
> > > Officer Roy Vaughn, who was assigned to guard the top of the Main
> > > Street ramp told Sneed: "There was a stairway that went from the
first=
> > > floor down to the basement out of the Municipal Building." Vaughn
> > > said , " Very easily somebody could have gone to the back door,
which
> > > is still there today, opened the door, let somebody in, walked
> > > straight and come right into the basement. It wouldn't have been a
> > > problem."
>
> > > The officer explained that, in 1963, there were two possibilities to
> > > enter the basement. There was a business college and a cafe NEXT to
> > > the Western Union. They have since been torn down, ...
>
> > > Is it im****tant how Ruby entered the police building to shoot
Oswald?
> > > Maybe not. On the other hand, why would Jack say he went down the
> > > ramp? If he entered the building from some other entrance, he could
> > > have admitted it. The result was the same-he was able to accomplish
> > > his objective. However, if he was in touch with someone from the
> > > police department, who was providing him with information about the
> > > transfer and aided him in getting into the basement, then there was
a
> > > reason to lie. Ruby, a long time friend of many members of the
> > > department, would not want to reveal the truth about their
> > > assistance.
>
> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"The rulers of the state are the only ones that
sh=
ould have the
> > > priviledge of lying, either at home or abroad; they may be allowed
to
> > > lie for the good of the state."
>
> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0---- =C2=A0Plato: The Republic
>
> > > Jack Ruby was interviewed in the Dallas County Jail on Dec. 21, 1963
> > > by FBI SA Hall and Clements regarding his Sunday morning trip to the
> > > Western Union office, and his alleged ramp entrance to the basement
> > > of
> > > the Police Department building. Jack furnished the following
> > > information:
>
> > > =C2=A0After sending the telegram, he left the Western Union
officeand
> > > walked west on the same side of the street, toward the City Hall
> > > located on the next corner. Before he reached the Police Department
> > > building, he noticed a police officer standing at the entrance to
the
> > > ramp going into the basement from Main Street, but he did not know
the=
> > > police officer. Just before he reached that point, a police car came
> > > out of the basement, and he recognized the driver of the police car
as=
> > > Lieut. PIERCE. He explained he had known Lt. PIERCE for twelve
years.
>
> > > PIERCE did not look toward him or speak to him and Ruby did not
speak
> > > to Lt. PIERCE. Ruby could not recall seeing anyone in the police car
> > > with Lt. PIERCE in either the front or back seat of the police car.
>
> > > As the police car driven by Lt. PIERCE came out of
>
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Mr. HUBERT. You were at one time connected with the police department,
were you not?
Mr. DANIELS. Yes; about 7 years.
Mr. HUBERT. About 7 years?
Mr. DANIELS. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. When did you leave the police department?
Mr. DANIELS. I left there in November 1962.
Mr. HUBERT. What were the cir***stances under which you left?
Mr. DANIELS. Let me see just how I can put this--well, I resigned, of
course, I was asked to resign because of some conflicts I had with a
tenant living in one of my apartments.
Mr. HUBERT. That is to say, you rented out some property to a tenant
and you had some difficulty with the tenant?
Mr. DANIELS. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. And on account of that difficulty they asked you to resign
from the police department?
Mr. DANIELS. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. You did resign?
Mr., DANIELS. Yes.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/daniel_n.htm
Mr. HUBERT. Nor did you see anybody go down the ramp?
Mr. DANIELS. No.
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Mr. DANIELS. Let's see, there is something else that I have been
thoroughly confused on--I have never been able to picture in my mind
just how it happened--the guy that I saw go into the basement--I'm not
sure it was before or after the car came out. I'm not sure I have run
that in my mind a thousand times, but I just can't place one before
the other.
Mr. HUBERT. Well, in any case, you saw a man go down in the basement?
Mr. DANIELS. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Did Vaughn look at him?
Mr. DANIELS. I think he did.
Mr. HUBERT. Did Vaughn try to stop him?
Mr. DANIELS. No.
Mr. HUBERT. He went right on through?
Mr. DANIELS. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Do you know how long that was before the shot was fired?
Mr. DANIELS. 3 or 4 minutes, I guess.
Note: That would mean that Ruby took 1 or 2 minutes to reach the
bottom of the ramp after leaving the Western Union. Highly unlikely.
Was it possible that the confused Daniels saw someone else go down the
ramp 3 or 4 minutes before the shooting of LHO?
Mr. HUBERT. But what you say is confusing you is as to whether or not
that was after the Rio Pierce car came out?
Mr. DANIELS. I'm not sure--I can't place one before the other--if I
had to guess at it, I would say it was before.
Mr. HUBERT. In other words, you think now that you saw the man go down
past Vaughn before the Rio Pierce car came?
Mr. DANIELS. Right.
Mr. HUBERT. Is that correct?
Mr. DANIELS. That's what I'm thinking.
Mr. HUBERT. That's your BEST recollection today?
Mr. DANIELS. Yes.
Daniels Ex 5324 - Diagram of the basement of the Police and Courts
Building, as marked by Napoleon J. Daniels.
Daniels Ex 5325 - Copy of sworn affidavit of Napoleon J. Daniels,
dated November 29, 1963.
Daniels Ex 5326 - Copy of an FBI re****t of an interview with Napoleon
J. Daniels, dated December 4, 1963.
Daniels Ex 5327 - Copy of an FBI re****t of an interview with Napoleon
J. Daniels, dated December 19, 1963.
http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/contents.htm
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