On Mar 4, 11:42=C2=A0pm, Raymond <Bluerhy...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Mar 4, 8:14=EF=BF=BDpm, jas <lle...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
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> > "Is it im****tant how Ruby entered the police building to shoot Oswald?
>
> > Maybe not. On the other hand, why would Jack say he went down the
ramp? =
If
> > he entered the building from some other entrance, he could have
admitted=
> > it. The result was the same-he was able to accomplish his objective.
> > However, if he was in touch with someone from the police department,
who=
> > was providing him with information about the transfer and aided him in
> > getting into the basement, then there was a reason to lie. Ruby, a
long
> > time friend of many members of the department, would not want to
reveal
> > the truth about their assistance."
>
> > Even being a Warrenista, I agree that your scenario is plausible.
Since =
no
> > one can absolutely verify seeing Ruby entering via the ramp, and we
have=
> > basically only his word on it, it leaves an obvious gap in the
time-line=
> > of that morning.
>
> > However, this is where all the other factors in the case become so
> > im****tant -- Ruby's extreme depression over the assassination, his
> > personality of being a wannabe, the testimony of long-time friends and
> > relatives of the state of his questionable mental health, and his
> > propensity of being a violent person. I also believe that the time-
line=
> > of his movements that morning is just too close for comfort, and
doesn't=
> > indicate his premeditation or involvement in a plot.
>
> > Just the sheer fact that his receipt at the Western Union office was
> > stamped 11:17 AM, and the time of the shooting was 11:21, some 4-5
minut=
es
> > later, tells me that he walked out of the Western Union office and
> > hi-tailed it over to the ramp, and simply didn't have the time to go
> > through an alternative entrance. Apparently seeing the crowd at the
poli=
ce
> > building, he knew something big was going to happen, and simply went
to
> > check it out, being the person he was. Then, when he saw Oswald, saw
the=
> > op****tunity, made a spur of the moment decision and pulled his
revolver
> > (something he carried with him all the time), and shot. This "cutting
it=
> > close" tiny sliver of 4-5 minutes between his wiring the money at
Wester=
n
> > Union and the actual shooting indicates to me he wasn't shooting as
the
> > result of a plot. What professional killer would be so careless?
>
> > In the confusion of that morning in the basement, he simply slipped
> > unnoticed down the ramp. Yes, in the real world, we all want to say
that=
> > this fact seems awfully remote, but sometimes in life coincidences
happe=
n,
> > as we all are aware of. I feel that these coincidences, on their face,
a=
nd
> > without considering all the other evidence in the case, (like the
> > motorcade moving underneath where Oswald worked), has what has given
thi=
s
> > case legs and has fueled the conspiracy movement for so many years.
>
> > Of course, there's room here for speculation with Ruby and the ramp
issu=
e,
> > but common sense, with all the evidence of what we know, tells me
that's=
> > how it went down. Unfortunately we don't have that one witness who
could=
> > have seen Ruby positively and without question enter the ramp.
>
> REVIEW
>
> The reason that Ruby would want to lie is because he would implicate
> the policeman or policemen that opened the door in the alley, which
> was allegedly locked and Jack would not do that. I SUSPECT that it was
> "Blackie" Harrrison who went down to the subbasement to Allegedly buy
> cigars.
>
> Ruby and the Ramp
>
> The Warren Commission claims that Ruby entered the basement of the
> Dallas Police Station via the Main Street ramp. He did not. He entered
> the building through a side door that is not less than fifty feet from
> the door of the Western Union building It is still there.
>
> Why would Jack say that he entered the basement of the jail via the
> ramp if he entered the building by another entrance? What difference
> would it make? Everyone knows that he was in the basement and shot
> Oswald.
>
> There is no genuine evidence, other than Jack's own story, that he
> entered via the ramp. If there is, I sure would like to see it. Even
> the Warren Wizards doubted the tall tale. After claiming that Ruby
> entered the basement by way of the ramp, the Re****t adds:
> Although the sum of the available evidence tends to sup****t Ruby's
> claim that he entered the Main Street ramp, there is other evidence
> not consistent with Ruby's story. If Ruby entered by any other means,
> he would have had to pass through the Police and Courts Building, and
> then secondly through one of the five doors into the basement, all of
> which, according to the testimony of police officers were secured .
>
> The testimony was not completely positive about one of the doors.
> (Re****t, pp. 221-222)
>
> Both the police and the Commission were concerned about the one door.
> But they were careful not to investigate the issue to a positive
> conclusion because it would almost surely implicate one or more
> members of the Dallas police force.
>
> The door in question was near the passenger elevator that opens into
> the Municipal Building.
>
> http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/html/WH_Vol...
>
> "Despite the thoroughness with which the search was conducted, there
> still existed one and perhaps two weak points in controlling access to
> the garage. Testimony did not resolve positively whether or not the
> stairway door near the public elevators was locked both from the
> inside and outside as was necessary to secure it effectively. "
> (Re****t. p. 212)
>
> In his book Conspiracy, Anthony Summers deals with this particular
> door:
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0"In 1979, the Assassination Committee rejected the old
story =
that
> Ruby got in down the ramp from the street. Following its own research
> on the spot, it plumped instead for a brand - new hypothesis. The
> Committee found that Ruby could have got into the basement by slipping
> down an alleyway at the side of the police station. In the middle of
> the alley is a door opening onto the ground floor of the building
> which houses the police station, and from there Ruby could have
> reached the basement. It was a far less conspicuous means of entry
> than the ramp route and therefore a better choice for a premeditated
> approach. The Committee had to consider whether, if he indeed took
> this route. Ruby would have been stopped by a locked internal door
> leading to the basement. On this point, it once again encountered the
> ubiquitous voice of Sergeant (Patrick) Dean. It turned out that he had
> vacillated in his statements as to whether the door could be opened
> from the outside. On one occasion he had not answered the question and
> then said he had been assured by the maintenance man that the door was
> secure from both sides. Two maintenance men and a ****ter said the
> opposite. They asserted it could be opened without using a key, from
> the direction Ruby would have entered." ( p. 469, 1991 edition)
>
> The Warren Re****t provides us with a diagram of the basement of the
> Dallas Police Building (CE 2179), which shows the three elevators
> opening into the garage, and the steps, by the elevators that Ruby
> would have used to gain entrance to the basement. They do not however
> provide a floor plan of the main floor that would show the alleyway
> door that Jack surely used to enter the building.
>
> http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/html/WH_Vol...
>
> Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you have any information as to how Jack got into the
> basement of the police department?
> Mrs. POWELL.(One of Ruby's dancers) No; but he could get in anywhere.
> Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you have any information that anybody helped him?
> Mrs. POWELL. No; I don't think anybody helped him. You just have to
> know him. He is probably a lot different =C2=A0now than he was, but if
you=
> had known him the way I knew him, and a lot of people knew him, he
> would do anything.
>
> http://www.cannet.com/~reesedw/DealyPage8.html
>
> The truth about the door can be seen by anyone who visits the corner
> of Pearl and Main streets, in Dallas. Standing in front of the former
> Western Union Office Building, the door to the Municipal Building can
> be seen . It is less than a child's stone throw away from the door to
> the Western Union. Additionally, there are over 20 windows on the side
> of the Municipal Building that could have been used to signal Jack
> that the transfer was in progress.
>
> I wrote an article in PROBE. March-April, 1999 titled Ruby and the
> Ramp. I included pictures of the scene showing the door to the side of
> the police building and the front of the Western Union Office. Perhaps
> Probe could provide a copy of the article.
>
> From the Chairman's Desk at PROBE Magazine:
>
> "Raymond Galllagher explores the mystery of how Jack Ruby made it so
> easily and conveniently into the basement of the Dallas jail with such
> exquisite timing. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words."
>
> A =C2=A0book, No More Silence, written by Larry A . Sneed, provides more
> information on the subject. I will leave that to interested people to
> read , but it is convincing evidence that Ruby entered by way of the
> door I described.
>
> The Sneed witnesses include police officers, deputy sheriffs, and
> government officials.
>
> Before anyone begins to write negative posts about the contents of
> this effort, make sure that you have exhausted your own research. Few
> still believe that Jack entered via the ramp.
>
> ONE MORE TIME
>
> Hopefully, I will use witness testimony to sup****t the proposition
> that Jack Ruby did not enter the basement of the police building by
> way of the Main Street ramp. At least three of the police officers
> told Larry Sneed, author of No More Silence, that Ruby undoubtedly
> entered the basement via the alleyway doors that ran north and south
> alongside the Western Union office.
>
> Officer Roy Vaughn, who was assigned to guard the top of the Main
> Street ramp told Sneed: "There was a stairway that went from the first
> floor down to the basement out of the Municipal Building." Vaughn
> said , " Very easily somebody could have gone to the back door, which
> is still there today, opened the door, let somebody in, walked
> straight and come right ...
>
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THE BACK OR EAST SIDE OF THE FORMER DALLAS POLICE HEADQUARTERS
The building on the far left is the old police headquarters. The red
one on the far right is the old Western Union. The structures in
between have been razed. The camera is on Commerce facing Main. It is
likely (???) that Ruby
walked from the Western Union to the station along Main. The Warren
Commission agreed. The HSCA, however, felt that Ruby entered the side
of the building (shown here) from an alley which no longer exists
today.
The problem with the latter theory is due to the fact that the HSCA
may have adopted a predetermined conspiratorial view of events from
the outset. (Photo: Reese 2005)
SEE photo
http://www.cannet.com/~reesedw/DealyPage8.html
The door to the basement of the Dallas City jail cannot be seen in the
photo. However, it was (and is) just out of sight on the street level
and on the first floor. The total number of steps taken to get to the
spot where Ruby shot LHO is about the same if he entered this door or
walked down Main Street from the Western Union ---- or if he entered
the side door and went through the basement. TRY it when you are in
Dallas.
See photo of ramp (above) with STOP painted on floor of ramp. If Ruby
entered via the side door, he would have arrived where you see the
iron railing and the parked cars to the left of the railing.
WHAT DID RUBY SAY ABOUT HIS ACTIONS THAT DAY?
http://www.cannet.com/~reesedw/RubyTestimonyPage.html
Please email me with your kudos, praise, accolades,criticisms, or
questions !!
I'll be looking for your letter !! (How's that for an empty and
superficial statement of disingenuity?)
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