Re: JFK , JBC , JEH , SBT , MCR , BOH ........

Jas wrote:
> Funny how there are no records of any phone calls between Oswald and 
> Baker, either from the TSBD, or anywhere else.
> 

Funny how there are no records of any phone calls between JFK and 
Marilyn Monroe. Guess that proves that he never knew her?
Funny how the Kennedy Library destroyed 5 WH tape recordings because 
they show Kennedy talking with someone that they wanted to cover up.

> The Judyth Baker story is exactly that, a story. Somehow it grew legs, I

> suppose for the reason that conspiracists are starving for that one 
> angle that will, in their words, "crack the case."
> 

More than that. It is a Romance novel.

> In the realm of common sense, you're correct, why would the CIA recruit 
> a small-time, uneducated person to be in on perhaps the biggest secret 
> the government was working on, i.e., the attempts to kill Castro, since 
> the Manhattan Project, when there was a wealth of highly educated 
> doctors and/or scientists available to them? My gosh, the whole thing 
> smacks of BS from the word go.
> 

Obviously you don't know much about intelligence operations. As Allen 
Dulles pointed out, intelligence agencies often use the worst kind of 
people. And several people involved in the Castro plots were not the top 
scientists and doctors.

> And the whole charade is kept "plausible," at least in the minds of 
> Baker conspiracists, by the clandestine nature of CIA covert ops. Sure, 
> it's easy to say, "well, there are no records or evidence because the 
> CIA covered it up." This is a neat, tidy, "one size fits-all" 
> explanation that CTs use, when painted into a corner, to explain away LN

> arguments to the contrary.
> 

Richard Helms ordered all the MK/ULTRA do***ents destroyed. Fact.

> Hanging onto any belief in the Judyth Baker story is like hanging onto 
> the railing of the Titanic with a half-empty lifeboat 20 feet away and 
> saying "if I keep hanging on, the ****p will save my life."
> 
> At some point one must let go. And please, conspiracists, don't post 
> that this is a "straw man" argument. That term has been worn out long 
> ago. There are such things as analogies to help illustrate a point in 
> discussions too.
> 

You paint with an awfully broad brush just to attack the only 2 Judyth 
defenders.

> James
> 
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> "cdddraftsman" <cdddraftsman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> And now JVB !
>>
>> Now I know for a lot of you folks out thar this is a pretty hard nut to
>> swallow but ........ Ya know the funny thing about the sometimes fine 
>> line
>> between fantasy's and fact is that maybe JVB dreamed the entire episode
>> and to her it is indeed a real event in her life . Preconsumate
>> confabulation being a sort of coin of the realm in assassination
>> literature it's not beyond belief that she is perhaps sincere :-( 
>> paste my
>> sad face here )-:
>>
>> I'm sure we've all had the experience of awakening in a sweat , sure
that
>> the box of gold we just found in our dream was so in the bank already ,
>> that were immediately mad when the reality of it eva****ating sets in 
>> after
>> a moment or two of consciousness .
>>
>> What tends to kill the story of JVB for me is the fact that the CIA
would
>> have very little interest in a high school female fatale turned super
>> sleuth biologist out to kill Fidel , when the USG was spending 
>> millions on
>> chemical warfare agents and employing top people in those area's of R&D
.
>> I won't even mention the possible harm that could of come to her by
>> pricking the balloon of LHO's future utopia and final destination . Pop
!
>>
>> But to write a book and add a love interest reminds me of the 
>> beginning of
>> the 1933 classic 'King Kong' : "If only your films had a love interest
in
>> them they would gross twice as much" , is so top heavy and disoriented
,
>> if *they* ever decide to make a low budget movie on it they will have
to
>> employ clamation actors because I just don't see anyone getting through
>> their lines without a great amount of mirth making that would spoil all
>> the scenes .
>>
>> (-: That is unless they make it into a comedy :-)
>>
>> tl
>>
>> PS : Poor Judyth , I wonder if her self inflicted forced exile , was
also
>> a ploy to garner sympathy and boost book sales ? Just another thought .
>>
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