1) What Oswald was doing that summer in New Orleans.
2) The purpose of the Mexico City trip.
3) Oswald's connections to Ruby, Ferrie, Shaw and Ochsner.
4) The nature of the Reily job.
5) The nature of Oswald's connection to the JFK conspiracy.
Martin
"curtjester1" <curtjester1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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in your opinion, what is there compelling that adds to the
case, besides Judyth just merely knowing LHO?
CJ
On Apr 27, 6:24 pm, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> from J: Other researchers have talked to Dr. Mirand, who said the
> dismissal was because of violating a housing regulation (on Aug. 25th).
> Here is my statement concerning these matters:
>
> Statement by Judyth Vary Baker, April 26, 2008
>
> The Indiana Biological Association was an organization of doctors and
> scientists in Indianapolis organized for the purpose of attracting young
> scientists to study the biological sciences in Indiana. This was my home
> state, so I was included in their lobbying efforts. They met me at the
> International Science and Engineering Fair in Indianapolis and helped
put
> together a scholar****p package for me.
>
> I next met with members of that association at Notre Dame University, at
> the beginning of the second week of October, 1961, where I presented my
> paper on melanogenesis, at their invitation. My aunt drove me there, as
> she lived nearby. She drove me back to St. Francis the next day. My
> family in that area -- cousins-- still remember my one-day visit there.
> The association had contacted Mrs. Georgia Watkins of the Florida ACS,
and
> local newspapers, on October 5, 1961, a few ays earlier, as it was
> considered good publicity for the American Cancer Society. Articles
about
> the paper to be presented to the association reached the papers on the
> 6th. The doctors then contacted st. Francis and recommended my
attendance
> at the Academy of Science conference at Terre Haute. St. Francis was
given
> funds to drive me up to Terre Haute: three nuns did so. This is the
> conference where a researcher found a record of the paper --- the second
> time, not the first time -- that it was presented, in mid-October.
>
> Mrs. Georgia Watkins referred to the IBA meeting in a newspaper article
> dated October 6, and to my presentation of a paper to that organization
in
> a letter to me a week later, whereas this second presentation was held
at
> in mid-October. At that time, Sister Claire was a co-presenter because I
> had established my lab at St. Francis only six weeks earlier, and she
had
> vetted my new work. The title of the paper I presented at the Academy
> bespeaks of the advanced level of my work, which even after forty-five
> years would be impossible for a layman to understand. I presented every
> word of it personally.
>
> I previously didn't mention the Terre Haute experience because I
couldn't
> remember enough details, and had no do***ents to prove it. This was
> because that same day, after hours of discussion with the three nuns
while
> on the long car trip to and from Terre Haute, I agreed to become a nun,
> and this decision overwhelmed memories of the conference experience
there.
> Two weeks later, my parents, upset over my decision, removed me at
> midnight on October 31st, in their haste taking a room-mate's clothes,
and
> leaving behind all my money, do***ents, papers, and the precious
melanoma
> cancer cells, and SV40 virus cultures I'd been working on. My parents
> refused mail contact with St. Francis, and I was unable to get the paper
> published: in the journal, for publication wasn't guaranteed until it
was
> submitted for reviews, but that was now impossible.
>
> In 1999, I tried to locate the paper without success, and thank Barb J.
> for finding a record of its presentation, actually the second time it
was
> presented. I also learned in 1999 that the Indiana Biological
Association
> was no longer in existence, or had changed its name. Created to attract
> biology students to Indiana, most likely it would be called a lobby
today.
> One of its members was a scientist from Eli Lilly's at Fort Wayne,
> Indiana. I had already given his name to researchers previously, as
> sup****ting my research while at St. rancis College.
>
> As to Dr. Mirand's statement that I was dismissed from the Roswell
summer
> program due to a housing violation, Dr. Moore intervened, and I was kept
> on, without a word. I never saw nor signed any dismissal papers. I had
> moved from the "Y" the final week of the program because I was isolated,
> even though Dr. Mirand said there were 9 girls at the "Y" -- I saw none
of
> them. Besides, I worked in Dr. Moore's private lab, separate from those
> who worked on lower floors in the building, or in bigger labs. I also
> needed some sleep, which I wasn't getting at the "Y.". Across from my
> room, a woman had nightly epileptic seizures due to her brain cancer,
and
> I spent about an hour every night with a stick between her jaws. The
> woman next to her was a black opera singer dying of throat cancer, whose
> groans kept me awake. A friend told me about a room near campus where I
> felt I could get a decent night's sleep.
>
> I moved there for the final week of Aug. 25-Sept. 1st, but before I
spent
> a single night there, Dr. Mirand arrived, white-faced and upset. I
didn't
> have funds for the week of Aug. 25-Sept. 1st, as the landlord kept the
> money, so Dr. Mirand accessed a special fund to pay the bill for the
final
> week of Aug. 25-Sept. 1st. I kept the receipt as a souvenir of his
> generosity, and because of the private fund's number written on the
> receipt, which I tought interesing. Dr. Mirand was angry with me, yes,
and
> rumors spread that I was in the doghouse over the incident, but
> nevertheless I presented my paper on August 31st - as did others in the
> program-and he grudgingly praised the paper. It's possible Dr. Moore may
> have intervened to keep me in the program. Or, being a very kind man,
Dr.
> Moore may have decided not to tell me that Dr. Mirand dismissed me from
> the program so close to the finish. My work was too im****tant to simply
> drop, and I ended up receiving awards, including a $1,300 stipend from
NSF
> funds provided to the program.
>
> Dr. Moore remained in contact with me until I went to New Orleans in
1963,
> and authorized some standard lab equipment to be sent to St. Francis
> College in September, including 200 plastic flasks for tissue culture
> purposes. I hope that Dr. Mirand will look into the records, as I was
> never told I was dismissed from the program, nor did I ever sign any
> release papers at any time. I apologize for any inconveniences this has
> caused Dr. Mirand, who has done so much for so many students in cancer
> research. Judyth Vary Baker
>
> 2) Reily Co. told her that the green gl***** were only offered as
premiums
> in 1959-60.
>
> Question: how would I have known that green gl***** were EVER offered as
> premiums by Reily? Pure guesswork? Bob Vernon is on record as going a
> few years ago to Wm. B. Reily and giving him a heads-up about me. It is
> then easy to claim that green gl***** weren't sent out as premiums in
> mid-1963, only earlier. Just as the 'error' saying I was at Roswell in
> 1962, this seems another convenient 'error.' Once again, how would I
have
> known about green gl***** as premiums, especially three or four years
> earlier? Nobody ever brought out such a detail. Go ahead, take the
> company's word for it, but common sense should tell you that actually
> admitting such a premium existed at all goes far.
>
> 3) She found do***ents indicating that the Russian course couldn't have
> been created for you, that it was in existence from an earlier time.
>
> I think I was enrolled in Dr. T Concevitch's MJC class in Fall of 1960,
> and later audited the class, when I could, in 1961. But in 1959,1960,
and
> 1961, I was being sent around to help raise funds for the new technology
> building at Manatee High School, and our science projects. Some
newspaper
> articles exist mentioning my work to raise such funds. Since this had
> nothing to do with research, I haven't made those articles public. I was
> missing a lot of school, though, and when I was at the Sarasota Air
Force
> base at a luncheon, in 1959, I was asked by the retired officers there
to
> learn Russian. They wanted me to read re****ts on science progress in the
> USSR.
> Col. Doyle brought up the suject t them because David Tracy and Dave
> Deitrich, at Manatee County High School (then so named) were pu****ng,
> along with me, for Russian cl***** at our high school. Dave Deitrich is
> now a lawyer who can be contacted to verify that he helped lobby not
only
> for the science seminar to be created, but also for Russian to be
taught.
> The three of us got the science Seminar, but not the high school Russian
> cl*****, as we simply didn't have enough electives time for both.
> Deitrich and Tracy went on to enroll in Russian at the University of
> Florida, which is on record. I think Dave Tracy minored in Russian.
> Back in 1959, I said I'd be happy to study Russian if they would find
> me a teacher who could teach the class at night. I believe they located
> Dr. Concevitch, who was teaching cl***** in an extension program,
possibly
> with New College, and got him to start teaching at Manatee Jr. College.
> See the attached statement showing I had personal correspondence with
Dr.
> Concevitch (envelope) and my mother's statement showing I attended in
1960
> and 1961, not just 1960, and that my instruction was privately funded.
> They are only looking at my official attendance record for Fall of 1960,
I
> believe, while Concevitch may have started teaching at the Jr. College
> that spring or summer. But it was my talk at the air force base that
> created the demand for a Russian class in 1959. I had such a hectic
> chedule that I was unable to attend night cl***** in 1959 and had to
wait
> until 1960, but I still had many absences and had to end up auditing
that
> course, too.
>
> At least they must now admit there was a paper presented, and that no
> layman or hig school science student 45 years ago could have done that
> kind of research-- that it is genine cancer research-- something they
> claimed I did not accomplish. of course Sister Claire, knowing me only
> six weeks, did none of that research herself, but was needed to sponsor
> the paper and vett it. And 'dismissed' at Roswell, which I was never
told,
> if true was due to a housing violation, not lack of resarch ability, and
> that decision was overturned, or at ...
>
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