Re: JFK, Addison's Disease, Iatrogenic Cu****ng's Syndrome, and the

"Jas" <jstell1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:4816adba$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> thaliacole wrote: "How do you explain the Dr's at Parkland who 
> stated/testified that Kennedy had a small entrance wound in his throat 
> when he was brought in after the shooting."
>
> The Parkland doctors were trauma doctors pressed for time and occupied 
> with saving Kennedy's life. Noting wounds on Kennedy's body, and going 
> into detailed examination was impossible and only cursory at best. They 
> neither had the time nor the authority to go any further with any 
> examination. The autopsy pathologists were the ones to do that at the 
> autopsy at Bethesda.
>
> thaliacole also wrote: "The simplest explanation for the strange
anomolies 
> in Kennedy's wounds is that he was, in fact, shot from both the front
and 
> back. Easy! You do get an award for coming up with the silliest 
> explanation for the discrepencies I have heard so far!"
>
> Why, thank you for that. How nice of you. I'll tell you this much, and 
> this is all I'll tell you so as not to waste any more of my time -- my 
> ideas make a whole lot more sense than your "he was shot in the throat
by 
> a flechette" statement.
>
> Your statement doesn't even deserve a response, except, "good grief man,

> get a grip."
>
> And, by the way, what in the world does your point have to do with the 
> curvature of Kennedy's upper back due to cortisone use sup****ting the
SBT? 
> If you want to spout off about your "flechette," start your own thread.
>
> James
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I've asked you this before;
WHERE can I find Proof of JFK's "cortisone" use?

HOW would cortisone effect JFK's ****rt?
HOW would cortisone effect JFK's jacket?
HOW would cortisone effect the autopsy face ****rt?
HOW would cortisone effect S S Agent Glenn Bennett's testimony?
HOW would cortisone effect  Dr. Burkley's observances?
HOW would cortisone effect Dallas Dr's observances?
HOW would cortisone effect Dallas medical staff's observances?
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> <thaliacole@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> On Apr 27, 9:25 am, "Jas" <jste...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> As we know, there's a lot of controversy stirred up by conspiracists
over
>> Kennedy's back wound location and whether a single bullet fired by
Oswald
>> from the sixth floor TSBD could pass through and out his lower anterior
>> neck, (if, according to them, it p***** out at all), and goes on
through
>> Connally, through his right wrist, into his left leg, and ending up on
a
>> stretcher at Parkland Hospital -- the Single Bullet Theory, CE 399.
>> Conspiracists maintain that the upper body bullet trajectory isn't on a
>> downward path because the exit wound in the lower throat is higher than
>> the upper back, therefore another bullet hit Kennedy in the throat from
>> the front, and they say the autopsists found the bullet hole in
Kennedy's
>> upper back positioned lower on his back than the Warren Commission did.
>>
>> Conspiracists also say that the bullet hit Kennedy lower than the
Warren
>> Commission and its defenders say it did, because the bullet holes in
his
>> ****rt and jacket are lower than the Commission said, therefore it was a
>> shot from somewhere other than the TSBD, possibly the Dal-Tex building.
>> They say this can be proven by where his ****rt and jacket were located
on
>> his back -- "bunched up," or "not bunched up" -- at the time of the CE 
>> 399
>> shot at around Z-223.
>>
>> For conspiracists to use these perceived viewpoints as "evidence" or 
>> proof
>> of other shooters in Dealey Plaza in trying to prove the SBT invalid,
is
>> wrong. Other than the fact that there were indeed mistakes, changes,
and
>> some confusion in the autopsists re****ts and testimonies regarding the
>> actual location of the upper back bullet hole, I feel the reason for
the
>> confusion was not because of a cover-up and conspiracy, but because of
a
>> condition I believe Kennedy suffered from known as Iatrogenic Cu****ng's
>> Syndrome.
>>
>> Unfortunately I can't verify this by citing re****ts and do***ents
because
>> I don't have access to Kennedy's confidential medical records, nor do I
>> have charts and diagrams with the actual mathematical measurements of
the
>> curves of his spine while he is sitting in the back seat of his limo,
the
>> likes of which I highly doubt were done by his doctors in the first 
>> place.
>> But from Kennedy's known medical condition and certain known medical
>> facts, I can draw a solid inference that he suffered from this
disorder,
>> and that this can help to understand how the SBT can, and does, work.
>>
>> What I do have is the known fact that Kennedy suffered from Addison's
>> Disease, had for many years and indeed almost died from it, and the
fact
>> that he was prescribed large doses of cortisone to treat it. I also
have
>> the known medical fact that intake of large doses of cortisone, over 
>> time,
>> causes osteo****osis and a condition known as Iatrogenic Cu****ng's
>> Syndrome, an exaggerated outward curving of the upper spine and forward
>> positioning of the chest, head and neck area (also called Kyphosis).
>>
>> For detailed information on this medical condition, please refer to the
>> two article links below, and/or Google "Osteo****osis, Iatrogenic 
>> Cu****ng's
>> Syndrome, Addison's Disease, Steroid use, Kyphosis" and/or any 
>> combination
>> of similar key words:
>>
>>
http://upmc.com/Services/MinimallyInvasiveendoNeurosurgeryCenter/Cond...
>>
>>
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/BHCV2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Hormon...
>>
>> This medical condition, with the way it caused Kennedy's upper body to
be
>> rounded and angled forward with the anatomical "pu****ng forward" of his
>> upper spine, upper chest, and head and neck, helps to place his lower
>> anterior neck where the exit wound was, *below* the upper back, and in
>> line with the SBT shot at around Z-223.
>>
>> I believe this medical condition is one of the most under researched
(if
>> at all researched), but nevertheless im****tant, keys to understanding
the
>> SBT and how the bullet enters and p***** through Kennedy's upper back
and
>> exits where the Warren Commission said it did. I also believe this is
why
>> there was some confusion as to the placement of the actual wound on 
>> charts
>> by the autopsists, and that measurements made from the mastoid process
>> behind the right ear may have muddled a way to determine the exact
>> location when comparing it to the rest of Kennedy's upper back. In
other
>> words, in the confusion, and in hastily fini****ng the autopsy because
the
>> Kennedy family (especially Mrs. Kennedy) didn't want to leave Bethesda
>> without the body, pathologists were simply mistaken in thinking the 
>> bullet
>> hole might have been located at vertebra T3 or thereabouts because, due

>> to
>> Kennedy's exaggerated spine curvature, T3 would appear higher on 
>> Kennedy's
>> spine than on a normal spine. And, in the years since the assassination
>> and with subsequent investigations such as the HSCA, the reason why
there
>> remains some confusion as to the actual placement of the bullet hole is
>> because pathologists still have to rely on these hastily drawn charts,
>> diagrams, and autopsy photos to try to re-determine where the bullet
hole
>> was located. And, of course, this confusion carries over to researchers
>> studying the assassination and is the reason for the ongoing
controversy.
>>
>> So, if one measures the distance from the mastoid process behind 
>> Kennedy's
>> right ear to the bullet hole, as was actually done at the autopsy, 
>> because
>> of the exaggerated curvature of his upper spine placing his head and
neck
>> in a more forward position than a normal person, that distance is going

>> to
>> be deceiving, even to a trained pathologist pressed for time, when
>> compared to measuring a more flat, straighter neck and upper spine.
>>
>> Iatrogenic Cu****ng's Syndrome can also help explain why the bullet
holes
>> in Kennedy's ****rt and jacket don't line up exactly with the actual 
>> bullet
>> hole in his upper back, and why they may be further down:
>>
>> How ****rts and jackets are generally tailored, the way they drape over 
>> the
>> upper back from the collar on down on normal people (who, by the way,
all
>> have outward curves in their upper spines, though not as exaggerated as

>> in
>> people with Iatrogenic Cu****ng's Syndrome) and compensating for the
>> exaggerated curve in Kennedy's upper spine -- this curve's rounded
>> measurement adding distance to the measurement of the ****rt and jacket
>> fabric -- is why when we see pictures of his bloody ****rt and jacket
>> hanging straight down as opposed to being actually worn on him, and
when
>> measured from the collar straight down -- without the spinal curve --
the
>> holes in the ****rt and jacket appear lower.
>>
>> So to sum: Because Kennedy was not sitting straight up in the limo, his
>> spine not on a completely vertical line at the time of the shot, and
that
>> he was slumped forward a bit not only because he sat that way normally
as
>> some people do, (some more than others), but also because he was 
>> suffering
>> from Iatrogenic Cu****ng's Syndrome that caused his upper chest, head,
and
>> neck area to slump forward somewhat, we can see and understand that the
>> actual location of the entry wound, and the path of the bullet through 
>> his
>> upper body and out his lower anterior neck area, indeed does line up
with
>> the approximate 17 degree downward trajectory of the Warren Commission
>> exhibit 399 bullet fired at around Z-223 from the easternmost window of
>> the TSBD sixth floor sniper's nest.
>>
>> And one final thought: If conspiracists want to respond by saying that
>> because they don't see a pronounced curve in Kennedy's upper back in
>> photos and film, therefore it didn't exist, this would be incorrect.
>> Iatrogenic Cu****ng's Syndrome is a real medical condition and is the
>> result of taking large doses of cortisone over long periods of time in 
>> the
>> treatment of Addison's Disease. In other words, although in Kennedy's 
>> case
>> any Iatrogenic Cu****ng's Syndrome information is not publicly known and

>> is
>> quite possibly undo***ented by his doctors (as far as I know), we can
>> safely infer that Kennedy did in fact suffer from Iatrogenic Cu****ng's
>> Syndrome because he, in fact, took large doses of cortisone for
treatment
>> of his Addison's Disease.
>>
>> James
>
> The simplest explanation for the strange anomolies in Kennedy's wounds
is 
> that he was, in fact, shot from both the front and back. Easy! You do
get 
> an award for coming up with the silliest explanation for the
discrepencies 
> I have heard so far! Looking on the bright side, at least you are 
> acknowledging that there IS a discrepency in the wounds that has not
been 
> satisfactorily explained by Lone Nut theorists.
>
> How do you explain the Dr's at Parkland who stated/testified that
Kennedy 
> had a small entrance wound in his throat when he was brought in after
the 
> shooting. Here is a quote by Dr Perry (who performed the tracheotomy) - 
> the throat wound "was a very small injury, with clearcut, although 
> somewhat irregular margins of less than a quarter inch with minimal
tissue 
> damage surrounding it on the skin." Dr Charles Baxter: the wound in the 
> throat "was no more than a pinpoint. It was made by a small caliber 
> weapon. And it was an entry wound."
>
> My own opinion, sure to be ridiculed by the lone nut brigade I'm sure,
is 
> that he was shot in the throat by a flechette (just as he passed
umbrella 
> man) This rendered him unable to move (as you see in the Zapruder film -

> his injuries up until that point would not have caused him to react the 
> way he did) The poison was untraceable, and explains why the doctors and

> nurses at Parkland all described the small entrance wound in Kennedy's 
> throat, and the lack of corresponding exit wound in the back of his
neck, 
> along with no recovered bullet.
>
>