On May 2, 4:23=A0pm, Canuck <prwhit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 30, 8:10=A0pm, curtjester1 <curtjest...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On 30 Apr, 10:59,Canuck<prwhit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Apr 28, 8:19=A0am, curtjester1 <curtjest...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > Chuck Boyles ran a late night talk show on KLIF radio in Dallas
and
> > > > frequently discussed the assassination with callers. =A0One
evening =
an
> > > > inidentified woman called and told Boyles, and the listening
audienc=
e,
> > > > there were telephone calls betwee Ruby and Oswald. =A0The woman
> > > > explained that she wroded as a telephone operator in the WHitehall
> > > > exchange and not only remembered the calls, but said the
*telephone
> > > > company had records of the calls.*
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> > > > The woman explained that when Ruby tried to call Oswald, and was
> > > > unable to get through because the pay phone Oswald was using was
bus=
y,
> > > > he would call the operator and tell her that his call was an
> > > > emergency. =A0The operator would then interrupt the call, ask the
> > > > callers to get off the line, and make a record of the call as
requir=
ed
> > > > by the phone company. =A0The woman said that Ruby used this trick
so=
> > > > frequently that she remembered his name and numerous calls.
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> > > > These "emergency call records," mentioned by the unidentified
> > > > telephone opreator, may have been given to the Dallas Police by
the
> > > > Area Commercial Manager of Southwestern Bell, Raymond A. Acker.
=A0A=
cker
> > > > took the phone company records to the Dallas Police Department
after=
> > > > the assassination and told the police they were proof of calls
betwe=
en
> > > > Ruby and Oswald. =A0Acker said that after he gave the records to
the=
> > > > Dallas Police, *he was told to go home and keep his mouth shut.*
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> > > > Phone calls within the Dallas area, which included Irving and Oak
> > > > Cliff, were not toll calls and were not recorded by the phone
> > > > company. =A0The only local calls that were recorded by the phone
com=
pany
> > > > were "emergency" calls (which the operator said Ruby placed to
> > > > Oswald).
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> > > > Some of Jack Ruby's emergency phone call may have caused Oswald to
> > > > return calls to the Carousel Club. =A0In the days leading up to
the
> > > > assassination Ruby's handyman, Larry Crafard, received many calls
fr=
om
> > > > an unknown male who never identified himself of left a message.
> > > > Crafard told the Warren Commission, "This gentleman would call
maybe=
> > > > two or threee times a day asking for Jack. =A0He would ask where
he
> > > > could reach Jack. =A0It sounded like it was pretty im****tant that
he=
> > > > reach Jack, and that he would never leave a number where Jack
could
> > > > call him back at." =A0When Crafard asked Ruby about these strange
> > > > telephone calls he was told to mind his own business.
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> > > > On November 26, 1963 Larry Crafard told SA John Flanagan that Jack
> > > > Ruby's home phone number was WHitehall 1-5601. =A0On November 29,
19=
63
> > > > Crafard told SA Theodore Cramer that Ruby's unlisted home
telephone
> > > > number was WHitehall 1-1050. =A0Oswald's rooming house was WH
3-8993=
..
> > > > There is no indication the FBI checked telephone company records
for=
> > > > emergency calls placed to or from these numbers.
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> > > > Harvey and Lee pgs. 768-9
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> > > > CJ
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> > > If there is any truth to this allegation, it would sup****t the
thesis
> > > that Ruby (with Craford's assistance) was setting Oswald up to take
> > > the blame for JFK's death.
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> > Yes it would, but not necessarily with Crafard's assistance. =A0I
believ=
e
> > there were many privy to Ruby and associates that frequented the
Carouse=
l
> > as well as other places that were what I would call outsider's.
=A0They =
were
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> You mean "outsiders".
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> > hearing stuff, but didn't have the wherewithal to get involved.
=A0Crafa=
rd
> > probably left town because he felt the heat (leaving the day after the
> > assassination with very little money in his pocket hitchhiking up to
> > Minnesota), but I wouldn't call him *in-on* the assassination.
=A0Karen
> > Carlin, the stripper and Ruby aliber would be more of a involvee since
s=
he
> > overheard assassination talk and told of it to the FBI a few days
after
> > the assassination. =A0She was most probably silenced for what she told
a=
nd
> > knew. =A0And Ruby even mentioned that in his testimony by telling just
t=
hat
> > in a rhetorical way. =A0I believe there was one Oswald setting up the
ot=
her
> > because they were a double agent team. =A0Ruby was friends with the
Oswa=
ld
> > born in New Orleans, not the one who got the job at the TSBD.
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> > > See my article "Creating A Patsy"
athttp://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/creatin=
gapatsy.htm,
> > > in which I discuss Craford/Crafard at length, whom I interviewed in
> > > Dec. 2001. =A0Also, see Joan Mellen's reference to Ruby and Craford/
> > > Crafard. =A0She claims that Ruby introduced Craford as "Oswald" at
the=
> > > club.
>
> > And Beverly Oliver was introduced to Oswald at the Carousel by Jack
Ruby=
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> > as "Lee Harvey Oswald of the CIA."
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> I discuss that introduction in my article. =A0I asked Beverly about it,
> suggesting that she probably was introduced to Craford/Crafard, but in
her=
> written reply, she confused him with Crawford, another Ruby associate.
=A0=
> She didn't remember Craford/Crafard, but her description suggests that's
> who it was, given that Oswald was a lot better looking than Craford/
> Crafard. =A0As for the reference to the CIA, Craford/Crafard did tell me
h=
e
> had been involved in "black ops." after his release from the Army, but
was=
> vague about whom he was working for, but it likely was either the CIA or
> Army Intelligence. =A0He even showed me a scar on his leg that was the
> result of one of his missions. =A0He also told me he had been a hitman
in
> San Francisco around 1961 I estimate. =A0He was asked about a job in
> Berkeley by the W.C. lawyers, but drew a blank. Griffin even mentioned
the=
> name of the company.
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Peter, there were several other Oswald sightings at the Carousel, Jack
Weston, Karen Carlin, Esther Mash...come to mind quickly and I am sure the
list would easily go to double digits with others that have already come
forward. Curington, H.L Hunt's right hand man saw Demoren****ldt, Oswald,
Ruby and H.L, on "various occasions."
CJ
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