Re: JFK, Addison's Disease, Iatrogenic Cu****ng's Syndrome, and the

Six days and, No response???



"tomnln" <tomnln@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Jas" <jstell1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> thaliacole wrote: "How do you explain the Dr's at Parkland who 
>> stated/testified that Kennedy had a small entrance wound in his throat 
>> when he was brought in after the shooting."
>>
>> The Parkland doctors were trauma doctors pressed for time and occupied 
>> with saving Kennedy's life. Noting wounds on Kennedy's body, and going 
>> into detailed examination was impossible and only cursory at best. They

>> neither had the time nor the authority to go any further with any 
>> examination. The autopsy pathologists were the ones to do that at the 
>> autopsy at Bethesda.
>>
>> thaliacole also wrote: "The simplest explanation for the strange 
>> anomolies in Kennedy's wounds is that he was, in fact, shot from both
the 
>> front and back. Easy! You do get an award for coming up with the
silliest 
>> explanation for the discrepencies I have heard so far!"
>>
>> Why, thank you for that. How nice of you. I'll tell you this much, and 
>> this is all I'll tell you so as not to waste any more of my time -- my 
>> ideas make a whole lot more sense than your "he was shot in the throat
by 
>> a flechette" statement.
>>
>> Your statement doesn't even deserve a response, except, "good grief
man, 
>> get a grip."
>>
>> And, by the way, what in the world does your point have to do with the 
>> curvature of Kennedy's upper back due to cortisone use sup****ting the 
>> SBT? If you want to spout off about your "flechette," start your own 
>> thread.
>>
>> James
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> I've asked you this before;
> WHERE can I find Proof of JFK's "cortisone" use?
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> HOW would cortisone effect JFK's ****rt?
> HOW would cortisone effect JFK's jacket?
> HOW would cortisone effect the autopsy face ****rt?
> HOW would cortisone effect S S Agent Glenn Bennett's testimony?
> HOW would cortisone effect  Dr. Burkley's observances?
> HOW would cortisone effect Dallas Dr's observances?
> HOW would cortisone effect Dallas medical staff's observances?
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>> <thaliacole@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Apr 27, 9:25 am, "Jas" <jste...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> As we know, there's a lot of controversy stirred up by conspiracists 
>>> over
>>> Kennedy's back wound location and whether a single bullet fired by 
>>> Oswald
>>> from the sixth floor TSBD could pass through and out his lower
anterior
>>> neck, (if, according to them, it p***** out at all), and goes on
through
>>> Connally, through his right wrist, into his left leg, and ending up on
a
>>> stretcher at Parkland Hospital -- the Single Bullet Theory, CE 399.
>>> Conspiracists maintain that the upper body bullet trajectory isn't on
a
>>> downward path because the exit wound in the lower throat is higher
than
>>> the upper back, therefore another bullet hit Kennedy in the throat
from
>>> the front, and they say the autopsists found the bullet hole in 
>>> Kennedy's
>>> upper back positioned lower on his back than the Warren Commission
did.
>>>
>>> Conspiracists also say that the bullet hit Kennedy lower than the
Warren
>>> Commission and its defenders say it did, because the bullet holes in
his
>>> ****rt and jacket are lower than the Commission said, therefore it was
a
>>> shot from somewhere other than the TSBD, possibly the Dal-Tex
building.
>>> They say this can be proven by where his ****rt and jacket were located

>>> on
>>> his back -- "bunched up," or "not bunched up" -- at the time of the CE

>>> 399
>>> shot at around Z-223.
>>>
>>> For conspiracists to use these perceived viewpoints as "evidence" or 
>>> proof
>>> of other shooters in Dealey Plaza in trying to prove the SBT invalid,
is
>>> wrong. Other than the fact that there were indeed mistakes, changes,
and
>>> some confusion in the autopsists re****ts and testimonies regarding the
>>> actual location of the upper back bullet hole, I feel the reason for
the
>>> confusion was not because of a cover-up and conspiracy, but because of
a
>>> condition I believe Kennedy suffered from known as Iatrogenic
Cu****ng's
>>> Syndrome.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I can't verify this by citing re****ts and do***ents 
>>> because
>>> I don't have access to Kennedy's confidential medical records, nor do
I
>>> have charts and diagrams with the actual mathematical measurements of 
>>> the
>>> curves of his spine while he is sitting in the back seat of his limo, 
>>> the
>>> likes of which I highly doubt were done by his doctors in the first 
>>> place.
>>> But from Kennedy's known medical condition and certain known medical
>>> facts, I can draw a solid inference that he suffered from this
disorder,
>>> and that this can help to understand how the SBT can, and does, work.
>>>
>>> What I do have is the known fact that Kennedy suffered from Addison's
>>> Disease, had for many years and indeed almost died from it, and the
fact
>>> that he was prescribed large doses of cortisone to treat it. I also
have
>>> the known medical fact that intake of large doses of cortisone, over 
>>> time,
>>> causes osteo****osis and a condition known as Iatrogenic Cu****ng's
>>> Syndrome, an exaggerated outward curving of the upper spine and
forward
>>> positioning of the chest, head and neck area (also called Kyphosis).
>>>
>>> For detailed information on this medical condition, please refer to
the
>>> two article links below, and/or Google "Osteo****osis, Iatrogenic 
>>> Cu****ng's
>>> Syndrome, Addison's Disease, Steroid use, Kyphosis" and/or any 
>>> combination
>>> of similar key words:
>>>
>>>
http://upmc.com/Services/MinimallyInvasiveendoNeurosurgeryCenter/Cond...
>>>
>>>
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/BHCV2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Hormon...
>>>
>>> This medical condition, with the way it caused Kennedy's upper body to

>>> be
>>> rounded and angled forward with the anatomical "pu****ng forward" of
his
>>> upper spine, upper chest, and head and neck, helps to place his lower
>>> anterior neck where the exit wound was, *below* the upper back, and in
>>> line with the SBT shot at around Z-223.
>>>
>>> I believe this medical condition is one of the most under researched
(if
>>> at all researched), but nevertheless im****tant, keys to understanding 
>>> the
>>> SBT and how the bullet enters and p***** through Kennedy's upper back 
>>> and
>>> exits where the Warren Commission said it did. I also believe this is 
>>> why
>>> there was some confusion as to the placement of the actual wound on 
>>> charts
>>> by the autopsists, and that measurements made from the mastoid process
>>> behind the right ear may have muddled a way to determine the exact
>>> location when comparing it to the rest of Kennedy's upper back. In
other
>>> words, in the confusion, and in hastily fini****ng the autopsy because 
>>> the
>>> Kennedy family (especially Mrs. Kennedy) didn't want to leave Bethesda
>>> without the body, pathologists were simply mistaken in thinking the 
>>> bullet
>>> hole might have been located at vertebra T3 or thereabouts because,
due 
>>> to
>>> Kennedy's exaggerated spine curvature, T3 would appear higher on 
>>> Kennedy's
>>> spine than on a normal spine. And, in the years since the
assassination
>>> and with subsequent investigations such as the HSCA, the reason why 
>>> there
>>> remains some confusion as to the actual placement of the bullet hole
is
>>> because pathologists still have to rely on these hastily drawn charts,
>>> diagrams, and autopsy photos to try to re-determine where the bullet 
>>> hole
>>> was located. And, of course, this confusion carries over to
researchers
>>> studying the assassination and is the reason for the ongoing 
>>> controversy.
>>>
>>> So, if one measures the distance from the mastoid process behind 
>>> Kennedy's
>>> right ear to the bullet hole, as was actually done at the autopsy, 
>>> because
>>> of the exaggerated curvature of his upper spine placing his head and 
>>> neck
>>> in a more forward position than a normal person, that distance is
going 
>>> to
>>> be deceiving, even to a trained pathologist pressed for time, when
>>> compared to measuring a more flat, straighter neck and upper spine.
>>>
>>> Iatrogenic Cu****ng's Syndrome can also help explain why the bullet
holes
>>> in Kennedy's ****rt and jacket don't line up exactly with the actual 
>>> bullet
>>> hole in his upper back, and why they may be further down:
>>>
>>> How ****rts and jackets are generally tailored, the way they drape over

>>> the
>>> upper back from the collar on down on normal people (who, by the way, 
>>> all
>>> have outward curves in their upper spines, though not as exaggerated
as 
>>> in
>>> people with Iatrogenic Cu****ng's Syndrome) and compensating for the
>>> exaggerated curve in Kennedy's upper spine -- this curve's rounded
>>> measurement adding distance to the measurement of the ****rt and jacket
>>> fabric -- is why when we see pictures of his bloody ****rt and jacket
>>> hanging straight down as opposed to being actually worn on him, and
when
>>> measured from the collar straight down -- without the spinal curve -- 

>>> the
>>> holes in the ****rt and jacket appear lower.
>>>
>>> So to sum: Because Kennedy was not sitting straight up in the limo,
his
>>> spine not on a completely vertical line at the time of the shot, and 
>>> that
>>> he was slumped forward a bit not only because he sat that way normally

>>> as
>>> some people do, (some more than others), but also because he was 
>>> suffering
>>> from Iatrogenic Cu****ng's Syndrome that caused his upper chest, head, 
>>> and
>>> neck area to slump forward somewhat, we can see and understand that
the
>>> actual location of the entry wound, and the path of the bullet through

>>> his
>>> upper body and out his lower anterior neck area, indeed does line up 
>>> with
>>> the approximate 17 degree downward trajectory of the Warren Commission
>>> exhibit 399 bullet fired at around Z-223 from the easternmost window
of
>>> the TSBD sixth floor sniper's nest.
>>>
>>> And one final thought: If conspiracists want to respond by saying that
>>> because they don't see a pronounced curve in Kennedy's upper back in
>>> photos and film, therefore it didn't exist, this would be incorrect.
>>> Iatrogenic Cu****ng's Syndrome is a real medical condition and is the
>>> result of taking large doses of cortisone over long periods of time in

>>> the
>>> treatment of Addison's Disease. In other words, although in Kennedy's 
>>> case
>>> any Iatrogenic Cu****ng's Syndrome information is not publicly known
and 
>>> is
>>> quite possibly undo***ented by his doctors (as far as I know), we can
>>> safely infer that Kennedy did in fact suffer from Iatrogenic Cu****ng's
>>> Syndrome because he, in fact, took large doses of cortisone for 
>>> treatment
>>> of his Addison's Disease.
>>>
>>> James
>>
>> The simplest explanation for the strange anomolies in Kennedy's wounds
is 
>> that he was, in fact, shot from both the front and back. Easy! You do
get 
>> an award for coming up with the silliest explanation for the 
>> discrepencies I have heard so far! Looking on the bright side, at least

>> you are acknowledging that there IS a discrepency in the wounds that
has 
>> not been satisfactorily explained by Lone Nut theorists.
>>
>> How do you explain the Dr's at Parkland who stated/testified that
Kennedy 
>> had a small entrance wound in his throat when he was brought in after
the 
>> shooting. Here is a quote by Dr Perry (who performed the tracheotomy) -

>> the throat wound "was a very small injury, with clearcut, although 
>> somewhat irregular margins of less than a quarter inch with minimal 
>> tissue damage surrounding it on the skin." Dr Charles Baxter: the wound

>> in the throat "was no more than a pinpoint. It was made by a small 
>> caliber weapon. And it was an entry wound."
>>
>> My own opinion, sure to be ridiculed by the lone nut brigade I'm sure,
is 
>> that he was shot in the throat by a flechette (just as he passed
umbrella 
>> man) This rendered him unable to move (as you see in the Zapruder film
- 
>> his injuries up until that point would not have caused him to react the

>> way he did) The poison was untraceable, and explains why the doctors
and 
>> nurses at Parkland all described the small entrance wound in Kennedy's 
>> throat, and the lack of corresponding exit wound in the back of his
neck, 
>> along with no recovered bullet.
>>
>>
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