Re: JFK, Addison's Disease, Iatrogenic Cu****ng's Syndrome, and the

On May 2, 10:51=A0am, "Jas" <jste...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> thaliacole wrote: "We can also INFER from the overwhelming and
monumental
>
> physical and cir***stantial evidence in this case that Kennedy was
killed
> by a CONSPIRACY."
>
> (you know, I was able to read and understand your point without your
> HAVING TO RESORT TO CAPS).
>
> I know the conspiracy rant, you don't have to overkill your point as you
> have probably 5,000 times before. Yours is just another typical
> conspiracist jump to final conclusions without looking before they leap.
>
> I disagree. We can indeed infer on certain points, when the facts are
> there and undisputable. How many times do I have to spell it out for
you?
> The facts are:
>
> 1) Kennedy had Addison's disease, this is a known fact;
>
> 2) Therefore, because Addison's is treated *only* with cortisone because
> the disease blocks the endocrines in the body, resulting in death,
Kennedy=

> was prescribed and took large doses of cortisone to treat it;
>
> 3) Therefore, because it's a known medical fact that cortisone causes
> osteo****osis, Cu****ng's syndrome and Kyphosis -- a curving of the upper
> spine and pu****ng forward of the chest, head, and neck area -- we can
> safely infer that Kennedy suffered from these side effects of cortisone
> treatment;
>
> 4) Therefore, Kennedy's upper body was hunched forward in the limo more
> than the normal man his age.
>
> And from there comes my theory that because of the above, this can help
> understand the downward trajectory and exit out the anterior neck
through
> Kennedy's upper body of the Warren Commission exhibit 399 bullet.
>
> Simple. Now, if you want to me to prove on this forum by posting
> do***entation of proof of Kennedy's Addison's disease, I don't have to.
> It's a well-do***ented historical fact written in probably hundreds of
> books about him. Go find it yourself.
>
> Face it my friend, you, nor any of your conspiracist buddies can refute
> these facts.
>
> Period.
>
> James
>
> <thaliac...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
> news:abb7f270-efd6-4bbb-a7d1-1d3fb8c63f31@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On May 1, 11:13 am, "Jas" <jste...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > tomnln wrote: "I've asked you this before;
>
> > WHERE can I find Proof of JFK's "cortisone" use?"
>
> > A member of his family, like Caroline (Good luck on that one), or his
> > medical records, if you can get a hold of them, which you can't
because
> > they're confidential. However, I first heard about his cortisone use
in =
a
> > do***entary on Kennedy, and I'm sure it's in books and literature on
him=
..
> > I'm looking as to the latter.
>
> > Cortisone is the *only* treatment for Addison's because Addison's
stops
> > the endocrine flow in the body, with death resulting if not treated.
>
> > It's called inferring. We can infer Kennedy took large doses of
cortison=
e
> > because he suffered from Addison's, therefore he had osteo****osis,
> > therefore, Cu****ng's syndrome and Kyphosis.
>
> > Read
> >
this:http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Horm=
on...
>
> > James
>
> > "tomnln" <tom...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
> >news:oiIRj.5033$1M1.1227@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > > "Jas" <jste...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > >news:4816adba$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> thaliacole wrote: "How do you explain the Dr's at Parkland who
> > >> stated/testified that Kennedy had a small entrance wound in his
throa=
t
> > >> when he was brought in after the shooting."
>
> > >> The Parkland doctors were trauma doctors pressed for time and
occupie=
d
> > >> with saving Kennedy's life. Noting wounds on Kennedy's body, and
goin=
g
> > >> into detailed examination was impossible and only cursory at best.
Th=
ey
> > >> neither had the time nor the authority to go any further with any
> > >> examination. The autopsy pathologists were the ones to do that at
the=

> > >> autopsy at Bethesda.
>
> > >> thaliacole also wrote: "The simplest explanation for the strange
> > >> anomolies in Kennedy's wounds is that he was, in fact, shot from
both=

> > >> the
> > >> front and back. Easy! You do get an award for coming up with the
> > >> silliest
> > >> explanation for the discrepencies I have heard so far!"
>
> > >> Why, thank you for that. How nice of you. I'll tell you this much,
an=
d
> > >> this is all I'll tell you so as not to waste any more of my time --
m=
y
> > >> ideas make a whole lot more sense than your "he was shot in the
throa=
t
> > >> by
> > >> a flechette" statement.
>
> > >> Your statement doesn't even deserve a response, except, "good grief
> > >> man,
> > >> get a grip."
>
> > >> And, by the way, what in the world does your point have to do with
th=
e
> > >> curvature of Kennedy's upper back due to cortisone use sup****ting
the=

> > >> SBT? If you want to spout off about your "flechette," start your
own
> > >> thread.
>
> > >> James
> > >
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> > > I've asked you this before;
> > > WHERE can I find Proof of JFK's "cortisone" use?
>
> > > HOW would cortisone effect JFK's ****rt?
> > > HOW would cortisone effect JFK's jacket?
> > > HOW would cortisone effect the autopsy face ****rt?
> > > HOW would cortisone effect S S Agent Glenn Bennett's testimony?
> > > HOW would cortisone effect Dr. Burkley's observances?
> > > HOW would cortisone effect Dallas Dr's observances?
> > > HOW would cortisone effect Dallas medical staff's observances?
> > >
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>
> > >> <thaliac...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >
>>news:80931670-951b-4d51-b4b9-ca66882274a5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> On Apr 27, 9:25 am, "Jas" <jste...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >>> As we know, there's a lot of controversy stirred up by
conspiracists=

> > >>> over
> > >>> Kennedy's back wound location and whether a single bullet fired by
> > >>> Oswald
> > >>> from the sixth floor TSBD could pass through and out his lower
> > >>> anterior
> > >>> neck, (if, according to them, it p***** out at all), and goes on
> > >>> through
> > >>> Connally, through his right wrist, into his left leg, and ending
up =
on
> > >>> a
> > >>> stretcher at Parkland Hospital -- the Single Bullet Theory, CE
399.
> > >>> Conspiracists maintain that the upper body bullet trajectory isn't
o=
n
> > >>> a
> > >>> downward path because the exit wound in the lower throat is higher
> > >>> than
> > >>> the upper back, therefore another bullet hit Kennedy in the throat
> > >>> from
> > >>> the front, and they say the autopsists found the bullet hole in
> > >>> Kennedy's
> > >>> upper back positioned lower on his back than the Warren Commission
> > >>> did.
>
> > >>> Conspiracists also say that the bullet hit Kennedy lower than the
> > >>> Warren
> > >>> Commission and its defenders say it did, because the bullet holes
in=

> > >>> his
> > >>> ****rt and jacket are lower than the Commission said, therefore it
wa=
s
> > >>> a
> > >>> shot from somewhere other than the TSBD, possibly the Dal-Tex
> > >>> building.
> > >>> They say this can be proven by where his ****rt and jacket were
locat=
ed
> > >>> on
> > >>> his back -- "bunched up," or "not bunched up" -- at the time of
the =
CE
> > >>> 399
> > >>> shot at around Z-223.
>
> > >>> For conspiracists to use these perceived viewpoints as "evidence"
or=

> > >>> proof
> > >>> of other shooters in Dealey Plaza in trying to prove the SBT
invalid=
,
> > >>> is
> > >>> wrong. Other than the fact that there were indeed mistakes,
changes,=

> > >>> and
> > >>> some confusion in the autopsists re****ts and testimonies regarding
t=
he
> > >>> actual location of the upper back bullet hole, I feel the reason
for=

> > >>> the
> > >>> confusion was not because of a cover-up and conspiracy, but
because =
of
> > >>> a
> > >>> condition I believe Kennedy suffered from known as Iatrogenic
> > >>> Cu****ng's
> > >>> Syndrome.
>
> > >>> Unfortunately I can't verify this by citing re****ts and do***ents
> > >>> because
> > >>> I don't have access to Kennedy's confidential medical records, nor
d=
o
> > >>> I
> > >>> have charts and diagrams with the actual mathematical measurements
o=
f
> > >>> the
> > >>> curves of his spine while he is sitting in the back seat of his
limo=
,
> > >>> the
> > >>> likes of which I highly doubt were done by his doctors in the
first
> > >>> place.
> > >>> But from Kennedy's known medical condition and certain known
medical=

> > >>> facts, I can draw a solid inference that he suffered from this
> > >>> disorder,
> > >>> and that this can help to understand how the SBT can, and does,
work=
..
>
> > >>> What I do have is the known fact that Kennedy suffered from
Addison'=
s
> > >>> Disease, had for many years and indeed almost died from it, and
the
> > >>> fact
> > >>> that he was prescribed large doses of cortisone to treat it. I
also
> > >>> have
> > >>> the known medical fact that intake of large doses of cortisone,
over=

> > >>> time,
> > >>> causes osteo****osis and a condition known as Iatrogenic Cu****ng's
> > >>> Syndrome, an exaggerated outward curving of the upper spine and
> > >>> forward
> > >>> positioning of the chest, head and neck area (also called
Kyphosis).=

>
> > >>> For detailed information on this medical condition, please refer
to
> > >>> the
> > >>> two article links below, and/or Google "Osteo****osis, Iatrogenic
> > >>> Cu****ng's
> > >>> Syndrome, Addison's Disease, Steroid use, Kyphosis" and/or any
> > >>> combination
> > >>> of similar key words:
>
> >
>>>http://upmc.com/Services/MinimallyInvasiveendoNeurosurgeryCenter/Cond=
....
>
> >
>>>http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/BHCV2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Hormon=
....
>
> > >>> This medical condition, with the way it caused Kennedy's upper
body =
to
> > >>> be
> > >>> rounded and angled forward with the anatomical "pu****ng forward"
of
> > >>> his
> > >>> upper spine, upper chest, and head and neck, helps to place his
lowe=
r
> > >>> anterior neck where the exit wound was, *below* the upper back,
and =
in
> > >>> line with the SBT shot at around Z-223.
>
> > >>> I believe this medical condition is one of the most under
researched=

> > >>> (if
> > >>> at all researched), but nevertheless im****tant, keys to
understandin=
g
> > >>> the
> > >>> SBT and how the bullet enters and p***** through Kennedy's upper
bac=
k
> > >>> and
> > >>> exits where the Warren Commission said it did. I also believe this
i=
s
> > >>> why
> > >>> there was some confusion as to the placement of the
>
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I accept Kennedy had Addison's disease. I do not accept that it caused
him to be so hunchbacked that it can explain how a bullet entered at
the level of the third thoracic vertebra  and exited out his throat.

Keep rolling out the excuses though - you obviously need to convince
yourself of Oswald's lone guilt, and who am I to critisise the methods
you use to sleep well at night.