Re: VIRTUAL JFK: Vietnam Had Kennedy Lived

On May 5, 7:07=A0pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> billcla...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> > On May 4, 5:41 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> billcla...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> >>> On May 2, 8:57 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >>>> billcla...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> >>>>> On May 1, 7:49 pm, "Gerry Simone" <newdecent...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> >>>>>> But didn't JFK begin to plan for the removal?
> >>>>> Yes, NSAM 263, signed shortly before the assassination was a
=93plan=
=94
> >>>>> that would have had the =93bulk=94 (not =93all=94 as many will
tell =
you) of
> >>>>> U.S. troops out of Vietnam by 1965. =A0The order says we,
=93should =
be
> >>>>> able to withdraw the bulk of our troops=94 and not, =93We will
withd=
raw
> >>>>> our troops in 1965 as so many people will tell you.
> >>>>> This plan was based on the hope that the SVA would be trained
enough=

> >>>>> to take over our mission by 1965. =A0Well, they wasn=92t, the SVG
wa=
s a
> >>>>> mess in 1965 and the NVA units had come south by then so the plan
> >>>>> wouldn=92t have worked. =A0What JFK would have done when the plan
fa=
iled
> >>>>> is left to history.
> >>>> But you are falsely assuming that the events of 1964 under Johnson
wo=
uld
> >>>> have been the same under JFK had he lived.
> >>> Certainly no more than you are falsely assuming that the events of
> >>> 1964 under Johnson would have been different under JFK had he lived.
> >>> You have no crystal ball. =A0The most difficult problem in Vietnam
196=
4
> >>> was the instable SVG caused by Diem=92s removal. =A0JFK promoted
Diem=
=92s
> >>> removal, LBJ was against it.
> >> Yes, I do. Because I saw first hand the difference that having
Kennedy
> >> in office made. If it had been Nixon the US would have invaded Cuba,
> >> Castro would have used his nukes and that would have been WWIII.
Kenned=
y
> >> was almost the only one in the room urging caution.
>
> > No Marsh, you certainly do not have a crystal ball. =A0You don=92t
know
> > what Nixon would have done and you don=92t know if Castro could in
fact
> > have fired nuclear warheads. =A0The fact that you often claim, =93what
> > would have happened=94 indicates arrogance much more than knowledge or
> > scholarly research.
>
> Yes, I do. Because we know that Nixon was a war monger. It was Nixon who
> authorized the assassination plots on Castro. He would have accepted the
> advice from the JCS who probably would have been the same men urging
> that Nixon bomb and invade Cuba. Castro would have no choice but to
> defend himself with the FROGs. That's exactly what they were there for.
>

It didn=92t bother the Kennedy boys to continue those attempts.  How
about looking in your alleged crystal ball and giving me the winning
lotto numbers!

Bill Clarke