On 11 May 2008 18:47:36 -0400, jfk297x@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>On May 10, 11:52 pm, William Yates <william_yates...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>> jfk2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> > On May 10, 1:15 pm, Steve Thomas <misledrks...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> Did Roswell Park ever retract the information sent out saying
Judyth
>> >> had been dismissed from the summer program? Id like to see some
>> >> evidence if they did.
>>
>> > Martin was given information some time before that was consistent
with
>> > Judyth completing the program. That information is consistent with
the
>> > level of information one would expect from an institution such as RP.
>> > None of that has been retracted.
>>
>> > Looks like Barb has been left to hang...again.
>>
>> And that information is also consistent with her being dismissed from
RP.
>
>Untrue. A grant would not have been given to someone who had been
>'dismissed'.
Read what the information said ... she was paid from a grant. That was
her stipend. Nothing else. All the students got stipends. That was
exxentially their pay ... and allowed them to pay for their
accommodations and incidentals. That she was only paid $250 from this
grant, as the info Martin got states, is inconsistent with the amount
of stipend Judyth herself claims she was going to get: $150/mo. It is
also inconsistent with the $200/mo two students have independently
told me they got. It was an 8 week program. The math isn't that
difficult.
>
>>
>> By the way, what happened to your not believing witnesses are either
>> telling the truth or lying? You seem to be very comfortable dismissing
the
>> information that has been presented, even though it comes from a
witness
>> to Judyth at RP.
>
>I am not weighing the information from Barb's nameless witness heavily,
as
>you have pointed out. For one thing, it is specious and without any
>details, and seems to come from heresay rather than from anything
>concrete. It seems to me this person may be mistaken or putting forth
>information that is incorrect or incomplete. I don't think they're
>'lying'.
The information came from Dean at Roswell Park. Neither he nor Mirand
have retracted the information.
If it was incorrect, particularly given all the calls and messages
made by you, Howard and some unknown California researcher of
Martins's ... in addition to me writing, asking if there was a problem
with the information and asking to be notified ASAP if there was a
problem .... if anything is "specious" it is your refusal to
acknowledge the dismissal happened ... cripes, not even Judyth denies
it and she states a couple of researchers were told by Mirand.
>
>In addition, the information is being parsed by Barb whose bias against
>Judyth is legend, so we know that no matter what this person may be
>telling her, Barb will only use that which she thinks can be detrimental
>to Judyth.
I posted the entire e-mail, Pamela. Martin has ALL of my exchanges
with this person.
>
> Shouldn't that be enough for to want to hear they have to
>> say? Shouldn't you be trying to provide an open forum instead of trying
to
>> close doors for this witness?
Judyth made a statement in respopnse. She opened with acknowledging
that Dr. Mirand told a couple of researchers she had been dismissed.
>
>Are you suggesting that Barb should provide me with contact information
>for this person so that I may ask questions myself?
You already told us you left messages for Mirand and that you would be
speaking to him; Martin said the same of the California researcher and
sai we would soon have details.
If Judyth didn't get the information that Mirand said she had been
dismissed from any of you .... then just where DID she come up with
this "housing violation" she lays off on Mirand?
Why aren't you asking Judyth questions about that ... and about the
conflicts in her statements ... between statements and with them and
her book?
You've tried to make this look like it is about me. It is not. It is
about Judyth and her claims.
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