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Re: Bullets, Magic & other

by Anthony Marsh <anthony_marsh@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 16, 2008 at 10:19 AM

thaliacole@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On May 16, 8:21 am, "Jas" <jste...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> thaliacole asked: "How do Lone Theorists reconcile that one of the
bullets
>> allegedly used by Oswald smashed through two men, their clothes and
broke
>> bones and came out the other end virtually unscathed, with no bodily
>> fluids on it (and with its grooves intact - a miracle event against all
>> odds) and the other bullet allegedly used by Oswald on Kennedy
>> disintegrated on impact? How could two bullets supposedly the same
react
>> in such a different fa****on from each other?"
>>
>> Ok, I'll play along on this one, even though it's been asked and
explained
>> within the context of the Kennedy assassination at least 5,000 times
since
>> 1963.
>>
>> Quite simply, the odds dictate -- and are astronomical -- that no 2
>> bullets will end up the same way, even when hitting the same kind of
>> target and with the exact same weapon and ammunition and range. You
must
>> know that by now...
>>
>> In the Kennedy shooting there were two different types of targets, one
>> involved two human bodies, and the other, one human head. These
different
>> types of targets, although both human bodies, obviously contributed to
the
>> differences.
>>
>> If you're looking for numbers, you can probably ask Herbert Blenner, or
>> other mathematicians here what the odds are that two bullets will come
out
>> exactly the same.
>>
>> Actually, I'd like to see that too...
>>
>> James
>>
>> <thaliac...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>
>>
news:d643af6d-7d5a-4731-a64d-f0e656787021@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>>> How do Lone Theorists reconcile that one of the bullets allegedly used
>>> by Oswald smashed through two men, their clothes and broke bones and
>>> came out the other end virtually unscathed, with no bodily fluids on
>>> it (and with its grooves intact - a miracle event against all odds)
>>> and the other bullet allegedly used by Oswald on Kennedy disintegrated
>>> on impact? How could two bullets supposedly the same react in such a
>>> different fa****on from each other?- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> I don't expect them to be the same!! Please don't twist what I am saying

> to suit your own agenda. However, you wouldn't expect one bullet to be 
> virtually perfect (and yes I know there was lead squeezed out and it was

> slightly flattened - that could happen by firing the bullet into water
or 
> cotton wadding) and the other to disintegrate. It seems more likely that

> two different bullets were used. In fact I think it is more likely that 
> CE399 was a bullet that struck Kennedy in the back and fell out (that, 
> however, doesn't explain no bodily matter being found on the bullet.) 
> Kennedy was shot in the throat from the front. Then another sniper using
a 
> dum dum bullet got Kennedy in the head.
> 
> PS How does a bullet do so much damage (at least to Connally) and still 
> have its grooves intact? Unheard of! I 'spose it is just another one of 

Unheard of? You obviously have never done any shooting. It happens all 
the time. Law enforcement fires bullets into cotton wadding or water to 
produce test bullets to compare. No damage.

> those unlikely happenings in a long line of unlikely happenings you must

> believe in order to be a Lone Nut believer.
>
 




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Bullets, Magic & other
thaliacole@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-15 10:36:04 
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Herbert Blenner <a1eah  2008-05-15 16:15:38 
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yeuhd <walloon@[EMAIL   2008-05-15 20:20:27 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-16 10:22:00 
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"Jas" <jstel  2008-05-15 20:21:43 
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thaliacole@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-15 23:05:34 
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"Jas" <jstel  2008-05-16 10:13:09 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-16 10:19:42 
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thaliacole@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-15 23:05:43 
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David Von Pein <davevo  2008-05-16 00:56:27 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-16 10:19:06 
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Herbert Blenner <a1eah  2008-05-16 00:59:14 
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thaliacole@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-16 21:34:10 
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thaliacole@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-16 21:35:22 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-17 23:28:47 
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HPWHOA@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-16 21:37:38 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-19 12:31:09 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-19 15:25:39 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-19 15:33:25 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-05-19 22:03:00 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-19 15:34:54 
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"robcap...@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-19 18:21:25 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-19 21:57:40 
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"robcap...@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-19 22:42:03 
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thaliacole@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-20 20:25:59 
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yeuhd <walloon@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 23:07:10 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-17 23:19:07 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-19 18:22:22 
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David Von Pein <davevo  2008-05-17 13:44:20 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-17 23:15:29 
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thaliacole@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-17 13:47:52 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-17 13:49:56 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-17 23:13:12 
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"Jas" <jstel  2008-05-18 00:52:43 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-22 00:35:45 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-08-23 19:02:25 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-19 18:23:33 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-19 21:58:32 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-19 22:42:32 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-05-20 01:31:39 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-20 01:29:21 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-20 01:32:29 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-20 01:54:57 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-20 15:28:18 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-20 20:26:13 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-21 17:01:42 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-05-22 17:02:12 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-22 18:25:20 
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thaliacole@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-23 01:52:37 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-23 01:53:26 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-23 09:51:23 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-18 00:51:32 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-08-23 19:03:06 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-18 00:51:46 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-18 00:52:13 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-18 01:04:02 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-18 01:04:50 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-18 12:04:15 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-18 12:04:36 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-19 18:24:23 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-19 22:01:09 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-19 22:43:20 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-18 19:45:32 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-21 21:15:38 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-05-22 04:06:18 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-22 18:24:41 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-18 20:49:05 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-18 21:34:36 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-19 00:33:46 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-19 01:46:21 
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thaliacole@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-19 08:30:10 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-19 09:20:10 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-19 09:20:19 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-20 01:26:51 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-05-20 20:36:58 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-27 12:56:41 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-27 21:25:29 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-31 22:43:04 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-27 14:13:26 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-27 21:24:05 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-27 21:17:05 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-28 00:53:20 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-28 00:58:45 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-29 21:37:00 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-31 15:32:26 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-28 18:47:56 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-28 22:30:05 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-29 21:34:46 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-29 00:40:02 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-30 12:14:53 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-30 23:08:49 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-30 20:34:36 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-05-30 23:24:19 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-31 15:07:05 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-05-31 22:34:19 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-30 20:38:53 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-05-30 23:25:29 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-31 15:06:58 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-31 15:03:32 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-31 15:05:03 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-05-31 22:20:45 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-31 15:05:41 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-31 21:57:19 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-31 22:44:47 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-06-02 11:11:34 
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Walt <papakochenbrot@[  2008-06-02 19:14:24 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-06-03 00:23:41 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-06-01 02:18:25 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-06-01 13:17:40 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-06-01 15:27:35 
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Walt <papakochenbrot@[  2008-06-01 20:16:14 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-06-01 20:16:34 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-06-02 09:16:15 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-06-01 20:18:17 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-06-02 21:05:28 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-06-03 00:26:10 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-20 20:27:48 
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Walt <papakochenbrot@[  2008-05-21 02:37:54 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-21 02:40:49 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-05-21 21:17:55 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-21 02:41:09 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-21 17:08:19 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-05-22 00:35:21 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-22 18:24:00 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-05-23 01:55:26 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-23 14:39:51 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-05-23 23:50:02 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-24 10:44:20 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-05-24 23:05:32 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-25 15:15:45 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-26 22:20:31 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-21 02:46:00 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-05-21 21:19:18 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-21 17:07:14 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-21 17:12:41 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-22 03:40:09 
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"tomnln" <to  2008-05-22 18:23:39 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-23 01:50:27 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-26 22:21:38 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-27 01:00:34 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-19 09:53:24 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-19 12:32:25 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-19 15:35:56 
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thaliacole@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-20 20:25:32 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-22 03:48:32 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-22 18:23:11 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-22 18:24:22 
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Walt <papakochenbrot@[  2008-05-28 10:32:59 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-28 18:48:27 
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