His claim of a judgment is ridiculous. The courts invalidated it.
He was trying to get her to repay HIM money that SOMEONE ELSE
loaned her. The person who made the loan has never gone to court on
the matter.
Martin
"Barb Junkkarinen" <barbREMOVEjfk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:ufq534t7bj2vsdhkl6igbmhqnjh17o27o0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Interesting. None of what you say tells us whether or not his claim of
> a judgment is true, And even if it is true, that has nothing to do
> with verifying her claims, but it would protect her from false
> allegations if the do***ents can be shown to be phony.
>
> On 20 May 2008 09:21:44 -0400, "Martin Shackelford"
> <mshack4@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>Why don't you just go ahead a say "Duh," Barb.
>>Trafford checked out Jaap's claims and found them to be nonsense.
>>I'm not going to circulate that junk just because you make a phony
>>challenge. There have been enough of those here.
>>Jaap has repeatedly spent time in mental institutions in Holland, once
>>for trying to run down his landlady with a bicycle.
>>Judyth agreed to let him write a Dutch book about her for Spectrum
>>publishers. He failed to meet their deadline, and they canceled the
>>book, so he has decided to claim rights to the book she later wrote
>>herself. Their contract included a payment to her which he never
>>made, so the contract was null and void.
>>Jaap then played games with money that a Mr. Visser sent to her--Jaap
>>intercepted the money and put it into his own bank account, paid her
>>bills out of it, insisted on doing her shopping for her, and charged her
>>substantial fees for each task.
>>Jaap handed her a contract written in Dutch, and misrepresented its
>>contents--he had included a provision which said the money could be
>>paid to her OR TO JAAP. Mr. Visser loaned her 10,000 euros. Jaap
>>set aside 8,000 for Judyth's expenses--one wonders what happened to
>>the other 2,000--Jaap later claimed that it was deducted "up front" as
>>"interest."
>>After promising to pay her utility bill with some of the money, he
failed
>>to do so, using the money to pay his own attorney in a pending lawsuit
>>against his landlady, whom he had threatened to kill. He then said there
>>wasn't enough money left to pay her utility bill. He pocketed 150 Euros
>>a month from the 8000, and also took a "finder's fee" for locating a
>>smaller apartment for her.
>>Then he tried to con Judyth's agent into thinking that HE was owed
>>15% of any book she might publish, as her agent--he flashed the Dutch
>>contract, which only applied to HIS book, already canceled. Her agent
>>dropped her, believing that Jaap had replaced her.
>>Unaware of Jaap's games, Mr. Visser demanded that Judyth repay the
>>10,000 euros within six months. Jaap refused to give her any more of
>>the money so she could return the remainder--it was then she found out
>>how much he had been taking for himself.
>>Jaap then demanded that she ALSO repay HIM the 8000 euros, which
>>was never his money in the first place. He also claimed to be her
>>literary agent, and told her that firing him would be a violation of
>>Dutch law!
>>It was at that point that he tried to run down his landlady and was
taken
>>to court for psychiatric evaluation. Part of the time he claimed that he
>>was the reincarnation of Lee Harvey Oswald, and he was
institutionalized.
>>He told Judyth that, being Lee reincarnated, they loved each other,
which
>>may explain his latest bizarre claim. He even claimed that he looked
>>exactly like Oswald, though he bears no resemblance.
>>Both he and Mr. Visser were demanding repayment of the 8000 euros,
>>though he had kept 3000 of the 8000 for himself.
>>In 2006, Jaap tried to get Trafford to pay him the money, but their
>>lawyers checked out his claim and found it specious. Jaap then began
>>sending out e-mails with his phony claims, as he continues to do.
>>He claims to have gotten a court judgment against Judyth, which he says
>>will be enforced "if she ever returns to Holland" or if he ever finds
her.
>>In fact, she returned to Holland in 2007, and was told by authorities
>>there that Jaap's legal claim was invalid because he had deceived her,
>>and added that he was a mental case and so could not be sued. Jaap's
>>lawyer quit, and Jaap never re-filed the case.
>>Mr. Visser, by contrast, has never sued her--perhaps afraid that his
>>role in the deception would be exposed in court, or simply aware
>>that the contract was invalid because its contents were misrepresented
>>to her.
>>
>>Martin
>>
>>"Barb Junkkarinen" <barbREMOVEjfk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>news:6h9434dogi8th15e23ggqbajetk4kniban@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On 18 May 2008 12:11:18 -0400, "Martin Shackelford"
>>> <mshack4@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why the hell would I circulate phony do***ents?
>>>>
>>>>Martin
>>>
>>> You say they are phony. What contacts did you make in the Netherlands
>>> to confirm/deny their authenticity?
>>>
>>> One would make a phony do***ent available, along with notation that it
>>> IS phony and that they know that because yada. yada, yada to dispel
>>> false accusations being made and spread.
>>>
>>> If one has made no attempts to fact check the docmuents and expects
>>> everyone to accept they are phony just on someone's sayso ... then I
>>> guess they would not make them available.
>>>
>>> Dare I say *duh*.
>>>
>>> Barb :-)
>>>>
>>>>"Barb Junkkarinen" <barbREMOVEjfk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>news:67hr24h8ppskr6u08rq08m58dmfoou33tn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> On 16 May 2008 10:17:21 -0400, "Martin Shackelford"
>>>>> <mshack4@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The same greedy bastard who has repeatedly attempted to squeeze
>>>>>>Judyth for money with phony claims and phony do***ents.
>>>>>>He tried threatening Trafford, and got nowhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Martin
>>>>>
>>>>> Phony do***ents? Do you have copies of these we can see?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"John McAdams" <john.mcadams@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:482c9549.97510625@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> Just come in to my e-mail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <quote on>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Fam Holtzapffel
>>>>>>> To: mshack4@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:45 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Little present for Judyth Vary Baker's birthday
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> May 15, 2008
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, Judyth Vary Baker:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today is your birthday. You're 65 now, and here is my present.
>>>>>>> On May 15, 2007 I wrote you that the court of justice in
>>>>>>> Haarlem, the Netherlands, decided (on August 16, 2006) that
>>>>>>> Mrs. Vary Baker - living at 136 Kleine Houtstraat in Haarlem -
>>>>>>> has to pay back Mr. Jacob Jan Holtzapffel, also living in
>>>>>>> Haarlem, the amount of dollar euro 8,647.63 plus intrest plus
>>>>>>> all kinds of extra costs immediately.
>>>>>>> Today, you will have to pay me the amount of dollar 14,844.48
>>>>>>> (euro 9,567.27) plus all kinds of extra costs. You know that
>>>>>>> Mr. F.J. ten Seldam no longer is my lawyer, so you will have
>>>>>>> to contact me directly. Remember: you can make no deals with
>>>>>>> me; it's to late for that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you don't pay before you die, your heir(s) like your eldest son
>>>>>>> Josiah or your eldest daughter Susan will have to pay me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Be careful: judge Mr. A.E.A.M. van Waesberghe's sentence
>>>>>>> (in Dutch: zaaknummer / rolnummer: 126058 / HA ZA 06-909)
>>>>>>> will be valid till August 15, 2026. On that day, you will be
>>>>>>> 83 years and three months old. As soon as I know where you
>>>>>>> live, I will come after you with a new lawyer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I can wait for 18 more years. It's no problem for me. Is it a
>>>>>>> problem for you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Judyth Vary Baker, this mail has nothing to do with the THREE
>>>>>>> WRITTEN AND OF COURSE ALSO SIGNED AGREEMENTS
>>>>>>> concerning your book on Lee Harvey Oswald: one private
>>>>>>> agreement with my personal advisor Auke Visser and two
>>>>>>> agreements with me...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have a nice birthday!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jaap Holtzapffel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Question for all the NEW people who receive this message for
>>>>>>> Judyth Vary Baker: who can give me her exact address in the
>>>>>>> United States of America or somewhere else? Thank you
>>>>>>> for your cooperation. I will reward you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <quote off>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .John
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> The Kennedy Assassination Home Page
>>>>>>> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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