Re: Z-film, JFK Forward Motion @ 230

On May 15, 7:44=A0am, markina...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On May 14, 9:57=A0pm, clarkwilk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>
> > This is correct. =A0The response to choking is to raise the elbows and
l=
ean
> > forward. JFK is engaged in a classic response. You can even see him
inha=
le
> > before coughing into his right hand. =A0However, Gil is incorrect to
imp=
ly
> > that JFK is "trying to cough up a bullet." =A0There is no bullet in
his
> > throat to "cough up". =A0He is trying to clear his throat of blood
that =
has
> > seeped into it from the throat wound.
>
> I'll accept that as a possibility. I hadn't considered seepage of
> blood as an obstruction. It still seems peculiar why he remained
> essentially motionless between Z-235 to Z-312 though. If it was a gag
> reflex, it could have continued to cause similar abrupt motions beyond
> the initial motion that begins at Z-230.

What, exactly, would you expect in those 4 seconds?
If you cough, and your throat clears, how long before it plugs again?

If you wish to claim LN theory is correct, how come JFK doesn't regain
control of his arms in those 4 seconds?

>
> I directed some friends a few nights ago to my youtube clip, and their
> 13-year old son watched it. I did not say anything to him prior to
> viewing it, only that I wanted them to watch it and tell me what they
> think is happening. This young man watched it several times and said,
> "It looks like he's getting shot in the back." I reminded that group
> that the slow-motion versions will deceive their brain into slowing
> down their perception of time, and the most im****tant version is the
> real-time speed, as the camera and the eye sees it actually happen.

We've all seen the film.  It's useful only for showing when responses
occurred and not when bullets hit.


>
> > We find ourselves placing the first shot circa Z160 for
> > JFK's back wound. =A0In spite of LNer claims to the contrary, there is
Z=
ERO
> > evidence of a shot fired here (It doesn't mean it didn't happen but
> > there's no evidence of it.).
>
> http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100shot6.html
>
> The above website contains two excellent clips showing both JFK and
> JBC turning abruptly left to right, and it can be easily interpreted
> that they heard a shot.

They turned to the right to wave to the people on the right.  It's
what they do.  The people on the right are IN THE FILM.  Why aren't
they turning abruptly to their left at the sound of a shot?

The "Z160" evidence is totally imaginary.  Dave Reitzes has tried to
sup****t this claim of Posner's.  Check out his evidence.  Then compare
it to the actual film and the testimony of the fifth floor witnesses.
The fifth floor witnesses describe quite clearly when the first shot
was fired.  Are they liars?  The film shows the crowd's heads.  Is
everyone except JFK and JBC deaf?


Just a thought.

::Clark::