On May 23, 1:26 pm, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
> Nice to see you haven't abandoned your mantra, Barb.
> Don't let reality get in your way.
Each retelling of her Judyth myth adds additional embellishment. I doubt
that reality is an issue.
>
> Martin
>
> "Barb Junkkarinen" <barbREMOVE...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> news:da3b3497a1g1s4iseavvm5fngvs8bj2cmk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On 22 May 2008 04:09:28 -0400, "Martin Shackelford"
> > <msha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >>You are assuming that there was only one "melanogenesis paper," Barb.
> >>You are certainly jumping to a lot of conclusions lately.
>
> > And you know there were two papers because? The only answer, of
> > course, since you have not seen any papers ...is because Judyth told
> > you so.
>
> > Judyth says "jump" and you don't even as "how high?" ... you just do
> > it.
>
> >>Martin
>
> >>"Barb Junkkarinen" <barbREMOVE...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >>news:3lu63457msn7k04jssd79ta5829n44lkah@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> On 20 May 2008 20:40:49 -0400, jfk2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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> >>>>On May 19, 2:31 pm, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >>>>wrote:
> >>>>> The melanogenesis paper wasn't the one she presented at the final
> >>>>> session
> >>>>> at Roswell Park, Pam. Not sure where you got that idea. It was
written
> >>>>> at
> >>>>> St. Francis College, based on work she did there.
>
> >>>>The subject was the same -- melanogenesis -- and it is likely that
the
> >>>>thesis was the same. There was not much time between RP and the Oct
> >>>>presentation of the paper for significant new research, was there?
> >>>>Judyth
> >>>>didn't start cl***** until mid-September.
>
> >>> Yes, that would seem to be a problem, wouldn't it? :-)
>
> >>> And when Martin mused where you got the idea that she presented the
> >>> melanogenesis paper at Roswell ... why didn't you tell him that you
> >>> got it from what Judyth said herself, in her book?
>
> >>>>> Martin
>
> >>>>> <jfk2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>news:8e5959b7-265d-47bd-b3ed-378340597a01@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>> > On May 16, 9:18 am, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>> >> I've seen no sign whatsoever of that, Barb.
>
> >>>>> >> Martin
>
> >>>>> > Of course not. Barb has yet to comprehend the significance of
her
> >>>>> > tracking down Judyth's paper on melanogenisis. That alone
> >>>>> > corroborates
> >>>>> > the fact that the paper was not only presented once, but two or
> >>>>> > three
> >>>>> > different times, the first being at RP. That being the case,
the
> >>>>> > entire
> >>>>> > concept of a 'dismissal' is ridiculous.
>
> >>>>> >> "Barb Junkkarinen" <barbREMOVE...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>> >>news:eq9p24d55iavk9nqqqlmumf88av29kknbm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>> >> > On 15 May 2008 16:14:20 -0400, "Martin Shackelford"
> >>>>> >> > <msha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> >>>>> >> >>Judyth did present a list of witnesses to her presentation of
her
> >>>>> >> >>paper
> >>>>> >> >>at
> >>>>> >> >>the final session. Not of any interest to you, apparently.
Not
> >>>>> >> >>the
> >>>>> >> >>kind
> >>>>> >> >>of
> >>>>> >> >>witnesses you're looking for.
>
> >>>>> >> >>Martin
>
> >>>>> >> > Oh, to the contrary, Martin, I am very interested in any
> >>>>> >> > witnesses
> >>>>> >> > to
> >>>>> >> > any final session where papers were presented. :-)
>
> >>>>> >> >>"Barb Junkkarinen" <barbREMOVE...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
message
> >>>>> >> >>news:cmtb24d35segjm0d90prq4jmhf9gdv0ug0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>> >> >>> On 10 May 2008 14:15:04 -0400, Steve Thomas
> >>>>> >> >>> <misledrks...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>>> >> >>>> Did Roswell Park ever retract the information sent out
saying
> >>>>> >> >>>> Judyth
> >>>>> >> >>>>had been dismissed from the summer program? Id like to see
some
> >>>>> >> >>>>evidence if they did.
>
> >>>>> >> >>> Roswell Park has not retracted the information given to me.
>
> >>>>> >> >>> No evidence of them having retracted it to anyone has been
> >>>>> >> >>> posted
> >>>>> >> >>> and
> >>>>> >> >>> Judyth posted a statement acknowledging Dr. Mirand told a
> >>>>> >> >>> coup[le
> >>>>> >> >>> researchers that she had been dismissed ..... for a
"housing
> >>>>> >> >>> violoation."
> >>>>> >> >>> No researcher has stepped forward, though I have asked
several
> >>>>> >> >>> times,
> >>>>> >> >>> to confirm that Dr. Mirand told them Judyth was dismissed
for a
> >>>>> >> >>> "housing violation."
>
> >>>>> >> >>> Judyth, of course, went on to explain that she had finished
the
> >>>>> >> >>> program in grand style anyway.
>
> >>>>> >> >>> IFFFFF Dr. Mirand had told ANY of them that Judyth had been
> >>>>> >> >>> dismissed
> >>>>> >> >>> from the program for a "housing violation" but that she had
> >>>>> >> >>> completed
> >>>>> >> >>> the program anyway, and in grand style .... that info would
> >>>>> >> >>> have
> >>>>> >> >>> been
> >>>>> >> >>> posted so fast that the handset on the phone wouldn't have
had
> >>>>> >> >>> time
> >>>>> >> >>> to
> >>>>> >> >>> cool.
>
> >>>>> >> >>> I've asked both Pamela and Martin just where the "housing
> >>>>> >> >>> violation"
> >>>>> >> >>> thing came from. If it's not what either of them or
Martin's
> >>>>> >> >>> "California researcher" were told by Mirand ... then did
that
> >>>>> >> >>> "housing
> >>>>> >> >>> violation" story come from ... Judyth?
>
> >>>>> >> >>> So, no ... the RP statement that Judyth did not complete
the
> >>>>> >> >>> program
> >>>>> >> >>> but was dismissed has NOT been retracted.
>
> >>>>> >> >>> And no ... there has been no evidence posted of anything as
> >>>>> >> >>> regards
> >>>>> >> >>> any info any of them got from Dr. Mirand.
>
> >>>>> >> >>> Bests,
> >>>>> >> >>> Barb :-)
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