On 23 May 2008 22:03:13 -0400, William Yates
<william_yates515@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>Barb Junkkarinen wrote:
>> You state things as fact, Martin, but cannot (and will not) answer any
>> questions or even explain ... because the only info you have as
>> regards most things is what Judyth has said.
>>
>> That is your reality. Face that.
>>
>>
>> Batrb :-)
>
>
>But Batrb, he's got all that stuff he sent to Tony to put on his web site
>to prove Judyth is telling the truth. Oh wait, that was all picked out
and
>provided by Judyth, nevermind.
>
>And on a different subject, did either of the Rp students you talked to
>say if they got a certificate or diploma showing that they finished the
>program?
I'll be posting on the students I talked to sometime soon. They
corroborate one another on several things. Sorry, best I can do for
now ... not quite finshed. :-)
Barb :-)
>
>>
>> On 23 May 2008 14:26:52 -0400, "Martin Shackelford"
>> <mshack4@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice to see you haven't abandoned your mantra, Barb.
>>> Don't let reality get in your way.
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> "Barb Junkkarinen" <barbREMOVEjfk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>> news:da3b3497a1g1s4iseavvm5fngvs8bj2cmk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> On 22 May 2008 04:09:28 -0400, "Martin Shackelford"
>>>> <mshack4@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You are assuming that there was only one "melanogenesis paper,"
Barb.
>>>>> You are certainly jumping to a lot of conclusions lately.
>>>> And you know there were two papers because? The only answer, of
>>>> course, since you have not seen any papers ...is because Judyth told
>>>> you so.
>>>>
>>>> Judyth says "jump" and you don't even as "how high?" ... you just do
>>>> it.
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
>>>>> "Barb Junkkarinen" <barbREMOVEjfk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>> news:3lu63457msn7k04jssd79ta5829n44lkah@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> On 20 May 2008 20:40:49 -0400, jfk297x@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 19, 2:31 pm, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> The melanogenesis paper wasn't the one she presented at the final
>>>>>>>> session
>>>>>>>> at Roswell Park, Pam. Not sure where you got that idea. It was
written
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> St. Francis College, based on work she did there.
>>>>>>> The subject was the same -- melanogenesis -- and it is likely that
the
>>>>>>> thesis was the same. There was not much time between RP and the
Oct
>>>>>>> presentation of the paper for significant new research, was there?
>>>>>>> Judyth
>>>>>>> didn't start cl***** until mid-September.
>>>>>> Yes, that would seem to be a problem, wouldn't it? :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And when Martin mused where you got the idea that she presented the
>>>>>> melanogenesis paper at Roswell ... why didn't you tell him that you
>>>>>> got it from what Judyth said herself, in her book?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <jfk2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
news:8e5959b7-265d-47bd-b3ed-378340597a01@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 16, 9:18 am, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I've seen no sign whatsoever of that, Barb.
>>>>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>>> Of course not. Barb has yet to comprehend the significance of
her
>>>>>>>>> tracking down Judyth's paper on melanogenisis. That alone
>>>>>>>>> corroborates
>>>>>>>>> the fact that the paper was not only presented once, but two or
>>>>>>>>> three
>>>>>>>>> different times, the first being at RP. That being the case,
the
>>>>>>>>> entire
>>>>>>>>> concept of a 'dismissal' is ridiculous.
>>>>>>>>>> "Barb Junkkarinen" <barbREMOVE...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:eq9p24d55iavk9nqqqlmumf88av29kknbm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>> On 15 May 2008 16:14:20 -0400, "Martin Shackelford"
>>>>>>>>>>> <msha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Judyth did present a list of witnesses to her presentation of
her
>>>>>>>>>>>> paper
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>> the final session. Not of any interest to you, apparently.
Not
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> kind
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses you're looking for.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, to the contrary, Martin, I am very interested in any
>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> any final session where papers were presented. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Barb Junkkarinen" <barbREMOVE...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:cmtb24d35segjm0d90prq4jmhf9gdv0ug0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 May 2008 14:15:04 -0400, Steve Thomas
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <misledrks...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did Roswell Park ever retract the information sent out
saying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Judyth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had been dismissed from the summer program? Id like to see
some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence if they did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roswell Park has not retracted the information given to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence of them having retracted it to anyone has been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Judyth posted a statement acknowledging Dr. Mirand told a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> coup[le
>>>>>>>>>>>>> researchers that she had been dismissed ..... for a "housing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> violoation."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No researcher has stepped forward, though I have asked
several
>>>>>>>>>>>>> times,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to confirm that Dr. Mirand told them Judyth was dismissed
for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "housing violation."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Judyth, of course, went on to explain that she had finished
the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> program in grand style anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IFFFFF Dr. Mirand had told ANY of them that Judyth had been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dismissed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the program for a "housing violation" but that she had
>>>>>>>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the program anyway, and in grand style .... that info would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> posted so fast that the handset on the phone wouldn't have
had
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've asked both Pamela and Martin just where the "housing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> violation"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing came from. If it's not what either of them or Martin's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "California researcher" were told by Mirand ... then did
that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "housing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> violation" story come from ... Judyth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, no ... the RP statement that Judyth did not complete the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but was dismissed has NOT been retracted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no ... there has been no evidence posted of anything as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any info any of them got from Dr. Mirand.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bests,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barb :-)
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