Re: Z-film, JFK Forward Motion @ 230

yeuhd wrote:
> On May 23, 9:59 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> yeuhd wrote:
>>> On May 22, 4:07 am, clarkwilk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>>>> The "Z160" evidence is totally imaginary.  Dave Reitzes has tried to
>>>> sup****t this claim of Posner's.  Check out his evidence.  Then
compare
>>>> it to the actual film and the testimony of the fifth floor witnesses.
>>>> The fifth floor witnesses describe quite clearly when the first shot
>>>> was fired.  Are they liars?  The film shows the crowd's heads.  Is
>>>> everyone except JFK and JBC deaf?
>>> Look at the Ike Altgens photo taken at Z-255 :
>>> http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/images/Altgens.jpg
>>> At least one, probably two shots have been fired at this point, and
JFK's
>>> fists are clutching in front of his throat. Yet no one in the crowd
looks
>>> puzzled, confused, or startled. They are smiling and applauding. Of
the
>>> several dozen people in the photo, the only persons who are not
looking at
>>> the president or the vice-president are two Secret Service agents in
the
>>> follow-up car, who have turned and are looking back at the TSBD.
>>> Is everyone deaf? From this photo, you would think so.
>> Selection bias. You are looking at only a narrow sample.
> 
> 
> All right. Try to find anyone in any still photographs or films who
> appears to be reacting to any gunshot before the head shot. I can see
> only (1) JFK and John Connally, (2) Rosemary Willis, and (3) the
> Secret Service agents in the follow-up car.
> 


Silly. You just found a couple more yourself. If you took the time to 
examine all the photos and films you'd find more.

> I've yet to see a photograph of anyone else in Dealey Plaza visibly
> reacting before the head shot.
> 

Because you refuse to look. You added Rosemary to your list. Keep looking.

> Z-227: One, probably two, shots have been fired, but people on both
> sides of Elm Street are applauding and waving.
> http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z227.jpg
> 

So what? Many witnesses said they did not recognize the first sound as a 
shot.
Surely you are not going to argue that no shots at all were fired before 
the head shot?

> Z-245: Two viewers on the south side of Elm turn their attention to
> the vice-president's car.
> http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z245.jpg
> 
> Z-285: More applause for the president, more than three seconds after
> he has been shot:
> http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z284.jpg
> 
> Z-300:
> Mary Moorman snaps a photo, but Jean Hill looks at the rest of the
> motorcade.
> http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z300.jpg
> 
>