Re: Bullets, Magic & other

On May 27, 11:13=A0am, yeuhd <NeedlesWax...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 27, 12:56=A0pm, curtjester1 <curtjest...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > > Tippit's wallet was pulled out and at Methodist Hospital.
=A0Therefo=
re it
> > > > couldn't be possibly mistaken for 'one' at the scene of the
murder. =
=A0It
> > > > was found further down the street anyway at Crawford and
Jefferson.
>
> > > Your source citation for those two claims?
>
> > As far as the crime scene itself, you need to concentrate that there
> > WAS a wallet instead of looking to where it might have been picked
> > up. =A0(So far it has been an unknown civilian that gave it to
Sergeant
> > Calvin Owens).
>
> In other words, you have no source citation for your claim that the
> wallet was found at Crawford and Jefferson, and you are backing away
> from that claim.
>

Are you not going to concede that there was a wallet videotaped?  Are you 
not going to concede that Tippit's wallet was taken when he was at 
Methodist Hospital from him?

As far as the claim, I see you avoided the claim earlier in the thread.  
Let me remind you.

=46rom Walt:

He never saw a wallet in Captain Westbrook's hands anywhere near the 
Tippit murder scene.  The movie footage that was shot by the TV cameraman 
which shows a wallet in a uniformed DPD officers hands was taken at the 
same location where the WHITE jacket was found.  That Jacket was found 
behind Ballew's Texaco service station on the corner of Crawford and 
Jefferson.  The film footage shows the taillights of the 61 Chevy that was

parked there in the parking lot. Both the Jacket and the wallet were 
filmed at the same location.....which indicates that the wallet was 
probably in the pocket of that WHITE jacket, when the cop picked it off 
the seat of the 1955 Oldsmobile that had the windows open.

I look at Walt as a superior researcher and generally almost agree to all.
 
Now, I do make room for the possibility that both sites could have been 
videotaped and combined for a later 'one segement'.  I do believe that the

fingerprints were dusted and seen by the TV camera for Tippit's vehicle.

> Where the wallet was found IS im****tant. Was it found in Tippit's car?
> Outside the car by Tippit's body? Along the escape route of Tippit's
> assailant? Or just in the general neighborhood?
>

No, it's not.  It's im****tant that it was a wallet that contained ID 
naming Oswald and Hidell, which Barrett said he heard from Westbrook 
audibly from the crime scene.

> The even more im****tant question is: If this wallet contained Oswald's
> identification, and was found by Tippit's body, why was there no
> police broadcast mentioning the wallet or Oswald's name in the time
> between the wallet's discovery and Oswald's arrest =97 or at any other
> time that afternoon?
>

It's actually not a bad question.  I would say that one possibility was 
that the Julia Postal phone call had gone through and the suspect was in 
the balcony had been delivered over the airwaves.  They were just down the

street, and probably went with that, as the time element was bang bang.

> > > > From the contents of that wallet Julia Postal twice, once to the
WC,=
 and
> > > > once to SA Carter would say that she heard one of the officers
say,
> > > > "Oswald", when they said, "we have our man on both counts."
>
> > > Julia Postal said *nothing* about any wallet in her affidavit of
Decem=
ber
> > > 3, 1963, or in her later WC testimony. Nor did she say in her
affidavi=
t or
> > > her WC testimony that any police officer referred to Oswald by name
at=
 the
> > > Texas Theater. The officer using her telephone said simply, "I think
w=
e
> > > have got our man on both accounts," with no mention of Oswald's
name. =
In
> > > fact, Mrs. Postal said, "Later on I found out the man's name . . .
was=
 Lee
> > > Harvey Oswald."
>
> > Why would she have anything to do with a wallet or it's sighting?
=A0You=

> > are confusing issues. =A0The issue is whether she heard the name
> > "Oswald" while he was being arrested and taken out.
>
> If that's the issue, I'll repeat what the answer is: Julia Postal
> never claimed in either her affidavit or her WC testimony that she
> heard the name "Oswald" while he was being arrested and taken out. In
> fact, she says she only learned his name later. There goes your
> argument.

I gave you two citations.  If you don't want anything to do with them,
that' up to you.

CJ