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Re: Z-film, JFK Forward Motion @ 230

by cdddraftsman <cdddraftsman@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 5, 2008 at 12:37 AM

On May 22, 12:08=A0am, clarkwilk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> Why do you
> suppose Posner's book failed?
>
> Just a thought.
>
> ::Clark::

You really didn't expect the general public to admit they had been conned 
and hoodwinked by the critical community did you ? Embarrassment of the 
disclosure of the dishonest tactic's of Conspiracy theorist's by Lattimer 
, Posner , Bugliosi has started to seep in though and the pendulum is 
slowly going in the other direction because of many factors that include 
but are not limited to :

a)  "Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate" or "plurality should not

be posited without necessity." The words are those of the medieval English

philosopher and Franciscan monk William of Ockham . CTer's break all the 
rules and especially 'the principle of parsimony' in their quest for 
conspiracy . When a crime occurs in the real world the list suspects 
motives etc. is pared down as evidence works to exculpate the innocent and

incriminate the guilty. When this crime was hi-jacked by conspiracists , 
the list suspects , motives etc. ALWAYS EXPANDED AND CONTINUES TO EXPAND 
TO THIS DAY . Why ?

b)  JFK Truthers Finally Losing Ground Nov. 16, 2007

"Before the 9/11 truthers came the JFK truthers . Fantasies about dark 
machinations surrounding the death of President Kennedy laid the spiritual

groundwork for today's claims of bizarre plots behind the events of 9/11 .

In both cases , the obviously guilty culprits are ignored in favor of more

desirable and expediant political targets"

c)  "GWB in an August 2006 speech, which declared that terrorism springs 
from "subcultures of conspiracy and misinformation ," and that "terrorists

recruit effectively from population's whose information about the world is

contaminated by falsehoods and corrupted by CT's . The distortions keep 
alive grievances and filter out facts that would challenge popular 
prejudices and self-serving propaganda . He "strongly criticized" the 
endorsement of CT's by the US left-wing , alleging that it was a sign of 
"theoretical emptiness ."

d)  "Critics of these Conspiracy Theory's say they are a form of 
conspiracism common throughout history after a traumatic events in which 
CT's emerge as a mythic form of explanation" (Barkun, 2003). A related 
criticism addresses the form of research on which the CT's are based. 
Thomas W. Eagar, an eng. prof. at MIT, suggested they "use the 'reverse 
scientific method'. They determine what happened, throw out all the data 
that doesn't fit their conclusion & then hail their findings as the only 
conclusion."

e)  "Difficulty in Debunking Myths Rooted in the Way the Mind Works," by 
Shankar Vedantam.

Excerpts:

"The conventional response to myths and urban legends is to counter bad 
information with accurate information. But the new psychological studies 
show that denials and clarifications, for all their intuitive appeal, can 
paradoxically contribute to the resiliency of popular myths.

Denials inherently require repeating the bad information,. which may be 
one reason they can paradoxically reinforce it.

Indeed, repetition seems to be a key culprit.

Things that are repeated often become more accessible in memory and one of

the brain's subconscious rules of thumb is that easily recalled things are

true.... In politics and elsewhere, this means that whoever makes the 
first assertion about something has a large advantage over everyone who 
denies it later.

The experiments...illustrate another basic property of the mind--it is not

good at remembering when and where a person first learned something.

People are not good at keeping track of which information came from 
reputable sources and which came from less trustworthy ones, or even 
remembering that some information came from the same untrustworthy source 
over and over again."

end .........

The problem with the critical community in a nutshell ! No other possible 
way to explain their absolute failure which has made the discussion of 
JFK's death , the greatest single mass failure in thinking ever recorded 
by humans on any one given subject .

tl
 




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markinator@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-09 21:55:27 
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WhiskyJoe <jremv@[EMAI  2008-05-09 23:29:53 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-10 14:18:17 
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Herbert Blenner <a1eah  2008-05-09 23:30:24 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-10 14:14:49 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-10 18:32:09 
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HPWHOA@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 22:45:51 
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clarkwilkins@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-14 22:57:26 
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markinator@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-15 10:38:17 
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markinator@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-15 10:44:47 
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clarkwilkins@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-22 04:07:10 
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Andrew Mason <a.mason@  2008-05-22 16:19:18 
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clarkwilkins@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-22 04:08:07 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-22 17:05:34 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-23 01:14:39 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-23 21:59:21 
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markinator@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-23 01:43:36 
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r2bzjudge@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-24 14:28:26 
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r2bzjudge@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-24 22:59:00 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-25 15:28:00 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-05-24 23:02:48 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-05-25 15:26:18 
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r2bzjudge@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-03 17:56:10 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-06-03 21:43:36 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-06-03 22:07:55 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-06-04 16:03:40 
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r2bzjudge@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-04 23:38:05 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-06-05 15:16:37 
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markinator@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-06-04 23:41:07 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-06-04 23:46:38 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-06-05 15:15:30 
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cdddraftsman <cdddraft  2008-06-04 23:59:01 
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cdddraftsman <cdddraft  2008-06-05 00:17:22 
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cdddraftsman <cdddraft  2008-06-05 00:18:27 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-06-05 15:11:56 
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cdddraftsman <cdddraft  2008-06-05 00:37:06 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-06-05 15:11:22 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-06-05 10:44:05 
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cdddraftsman <cdddraft  2008-06-05 14:40:38 
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markinator@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-06-05 22:45:09 
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r2bzjudge@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-06 16:11:23 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-06-06 23:08:59 
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r2bzjudge@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-07 23:03:37 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-06-08 23:49:21 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-06-09 22:11:27 
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burb2872@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-08 16:07:51 
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yeuhd <NeedlesWaxman@[  2008-06-09 08:35:04 
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Anthony Marsh <anthony  2008-06-09 21:54:49 
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r2bzjudge@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-14 17:07:37 

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