Re: Z-film, JFK Forward Motion @ 230

On Jun 5, 1:40=A0pm, cdddraftsman <cdddrafts...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> You must be joking ?

No.

> I suggest picking up the 'Secret KGB JFK Assassination Files'

Perhaps you can upload the pertinent sections to youtube for us to
view.

> shots could of come from the TSBD (SBT) and determine if the location of
> the alleged Grassy Knoll sniper could of been the source that inflicted
> the fatal (Head Shot) .

I have not viewed this do***entary. I created this post for discussion of 
Z-230 to Z-234. What did the experts in the do***entary you cite conclude 
about JFK's abrupt forward motion in those frames? Also, I've made no 
claims regarding the GK headshot. I do not believe that the Z- film will 
ever reconcile other researchers' claims of a GK headshot at Z-313, 
although numerous very qualified researchers insist on the GK headshot. 
This is why I focus on Z-230 to Z-234, because it's much easier to 
convincingly demonstrate to others the high probability, IMO, of 
conspiracy.

> Groden who has no training in any field (copy machine repair man) ,
> especially photography , is continually corrected as to his 'Hollywood
> Version' of events and the look on his face as he's put in his place 'Is
> priceless' . He sat there glumly , brooding over the fact that his
version=

> and interpretation of the Z-film was non-sense , he had been called on
it
> and he was told so in no uncertain manner . A glorious day for the truth

Regardless of your personal opinion of Groden, his interpretation is that 
JFK is exhibiting signs of taking a bullet in the back at exactly Z-230.

> No doubt now who contributed to Oliver Stone's movie 'JFK' .... A movie
> that contained '100+ major historical inaccuracies and distortions of
the
> truth , is there ? That man's name is Robert Groden . A person who has
as
> much use for the truth in the JFK Assassination as a alley cat would
have
> for a marriage license .

So I was correct when I said that his reputation in this forum isn't 
exactly guilded. I try to not lower myself into expressing disdain for 
other researchers. I respect their viewpoints, and appreciate their 
offerings. George Carlin used to make a joke, "Somewhere in the world is 
the WORST doctor, by process of elimination. The scary part is that 
someone has an appointment with him tomorrow." I say that because even the

worst doctor can occasionally be guilty of a correct diagnosis. The flip 
side of that comment is that the best doctor can make a mistake.

> Posner's book was quite successful in poking huge holes in the rented
> goodyear blimp that was unopposed , and sailing above our heads
> advertising logical absurdity's of the most astoni****ng and astounding
> types in JFK's death for the personal profit and self glorification of
> it's pilot and occupants . That blimp has now been grounded permanently
.

In what ways? The official gov't position remains from the HSCA's 
conclusion that JFK's murder was probably the result of a conspiracy. I 
don't believe that has changed, nor public sentiment concerning that a 
majority of people believed at the time, and now, that there was indeed a 
conspiracy.

> Their followers who are now bewildered at there being 12 firing
locations

Twelve firing locations?

> alleged assassins and helpers can't be found on any film taken that day

I remain very interested to see the Babushka Lady's film, but I can't
because it was confiscated and cannot be found.

> organizations involved in Camelot's demise , are finding it hard to keep
> all the marbles in a straight line , let alone in the same basket .

Conspiracy theories vary, and I find most of the conspiracy-oriented
persons posting in this newsgroup to be very organized and well-
informed.

> BTW if anyone is still interested in the truth , the Democratic party
JFK
> belonged to has changed so radically from what it stood for in 1963 ,
that
> it's estimated JFK and his policies would of been kicked out of that
party
> (today) in less time it took him to motorcade through Dealey Plaza.

I remain interested in the truth. Could you explain the differences in the

Democratic party in '63 versus today?

Respectfully,
~Mark