Re: Missing the first shot

claviger wrote:
> Andrew,
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> Here is how I look at it. If the collective perception by a majority of=
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> ear-witnesses is correct, that there were 3 shots and the last two shot=
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> were closer together than the first two shots, then working backward fr=
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> z313 to either z224 or z234 should help us locate the first shot.
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> people are convinced both JFK and JBC emerge from behind the sign wound=
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> at z224. JBC himself believes it was more like z230 - 234, so I'm using=
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> z224 and z234 as time measurement points. Therefore the first shot must=
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> have come between z134 -154. Max Holland believes the first shot came=20
> prior to z133 and he may be right. More on that later. I mentioned a lo=
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> of curious physical reactions in z150 that could indicate a shot fired =
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> that point in time.
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> Here is the math:
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> 313 - 234 =3D 79 =F7 18.3 =3D 4.32 sec
> 313 - 224 =3D 89 =F7 18.3 =3D 4.86 sec
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> To be technically longer I next used a minimum of 80 vs 79 frames, and =
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> vs 89 frames. By deduction the most likely frames for a first shot are:=
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> z134 - z154.=20

I don't follow you there. 134-224 is 90 frames so this which is equal
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224-313. You cannot get a 1......2...3 pattern out of that.


> The Presidential Limousine had just straightened out from=20
> making the turn about z133. As far as I know, Tina Towner heard a
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> sound at z133.=20

She stopped filming when the limo was 15 feet before its position seen=20
in z133. That is about one second before Zapruder began filming. She=20
said she was walking back to the corner and getting ready to pack up
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camera when the first shot sounded. In 1996 she wrote a story
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the first shot to be 4-6 seconds after she stopped filming.


> Witnesses on the 4th floor of the TSBD saw the Limousine=20
> pass behind a tree at the same time hearing the first shot. Another=20
> witness familiar with the Plaza placed the first shot in that same=20
> position, as does Rosemary Willis. IOW, witnesses on 3 sides of the=20
> Limousine corroborate each other. This is similar to a triangulation of=
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> the object in question, the Presidential Limousine. Given all this, I'm=
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> guessing the first shot happened sooner than estimated by JBC.

The operative word is "guessing". If you base conclusions on evidence,=20
you do not have to guess.

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> One more calculation might be useful (based on rough estimates). The=20
> Presidential Limousine SS 100 X was 21 feet long. At z133 it would be a=
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> estimated 55' from the center lane on Houston St. In z133 the front bum=
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> would measure about 40-45' back to the corner. By z150 the Limousine ha=
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> traveled another car length, so now it is about 60-65' from the corner.=
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> Adding the distance back to the center lane on Houston St would be abou=
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> 80', therefore the Governor's estimate of 150-200' sounds more relevant=
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> the second shot approaching the Stemmons sign.

The problem is that he said it was the first shot. 200 feet is more
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10 seconds.

The exact time after turning the corner can be determined by combining=20
the Towner and zfilms. Towner shows the limo turning the corner. It
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with the limo less than a car length from its position seen in z133.

Andrew Mason