Re: Z-film, JFK Forward Motion @ 230

On Jun 5, 12:16=A0pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> r2bzju...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Jun 3, 6:43 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> r2bzju...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>> On May 25, 12:28 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
> >>>> r2bzju...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> >>>>> Anthony Marsh wrote:
> >>>>>> WhiskyJoe wrote:
> >>>>>>> I think the head does nod forward a bit starting at frame 230.
But=
 the
> >>>>>>> real noticeable and significant movement is the raising of the
arm=
s, which
> >>>>>>> starts at frame 226. The arms are then held in this position for
t=
he next
> >>>>>>> 4 to 5 seconds. Clearly, the raising of the arms is the
significan=
t
> >>>>>>> reaction. And it starts at frame 226.
> >>>>>> Dr. McCarthy found that Kennedy had already been reacting at
least =
4
> >>>>>> frames before Z-225.
> >>>>> ***Kennedy's left arm was at his side at Z224. =A0Immediately
after,=
 it
> >>>>> jumped up. =A0At Z224, JFK's right hand was not yet clenched.
Immedi=
ately
> >>>>> after Z224, it did.
> >>>> Wrong. Look at Dale Myers diagrams. He shows both hands up at
Z-223. =
Are
> >>>> you calling Dale Myers a liar?
> >>> ***I am calling the Zapruder film the truth.
> >>> Dr. McCarthy is mistaken. =A0If Dale Meyers animation showed JFK's
rig=
ht
> >>> hand clenched at Z224, he made a mistake.
> >> Duh, you think?
>
> > ***Yes.
>
> > Wasn't it you that was arguing with me some time ago that both of
JFK's
> > hands were clenched at Z224, as an indication he reacted prior to
Z224? =
=A0
> > JFK's right hand was still open at Z224, with the fingers bent inward
> > somewhat. =A0In the next frame, the hand was clenching. JFK's left
hand =
was
> > clenched at Z224, but as i pointed out, in clear frames of the MPI
> > version, i could see that his left hand was clenched prior to him
going
> > behind the sign.
>
> Even you, a die-hard WC defender could see that? But not Myers? I think
> not. He simply lied.


***I broused YouTube last night and came accross a segment of a
History Channel program with the Meyers animation, from various
angles.  From the left side angle, i watched the movement of JFK's
left arm.  As i mentioned before, clear frames in the 180's or 190's
showed JFK's left hand in a fist.  I believe he was holding his left
arm in a stationary position.  In the Meyers animation, in the frames
leading up to the gunshot reaction, the left arm was moving around
somewhat and the hand was not clenched.  The arm was not visible while
JFK was behind the sign, thus i think Meyers was being interpretive of
unseen action, as opposed to lying.  Not having the left hand
clenched, i think was a lack of attention to detail.

***Ron Judge