Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
> On Jul 21, 5:34 pm, Herbert Blenner <a1ea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Jul 20, 11:57 pm, "Grizzlie Antagonist" <lloydsofhanf...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> wrote:
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>>> "Herbert Blenner" <a1ea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>> On Jul 20, 11:40 am, Grizzlie Antagonist <lloydsofhanf...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 19, 7:45 pm, Herbert Blenner <a1ea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 19, 1:05 pm, Grizzlie Antagonist <lloydsofhanf...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:32 pm, Herbert Blenner <a1ea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 5:15 pm, Grizzlie Antagonist
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>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 12:38 pm, lanc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 9:22 pm, Herbert Blenner <a1ea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>> A prime example of that distortion is that diagram with the crazy
>>>>>> quilt
>>>>>> drawing of a bullet making several twists and turns to accommodate
the
>>>>>> single bullet scenario.
>>>>> You are mistaking me for Wecht.
>>>> All of you look alike to me. You're from the same hive.
>>>> I have fixed the broken link.
>>>> http://mysite.verizon.net/a1eah71/temps/tumbling.jpg
>>>> Goodbye.
>>>> Herbert
>>> By golly, Herbert Blenner, that sure is a GREAT simulation that Dr.
>>> Lattimer performed.
>> Snip of huff, puff and bluff by HB.
>
>> You forgot to tell us that Lattimer's tumbled bullets made rectangular
>> holes in his targets.
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> Lattimer doesn't seem to worry about it. It may have something to do
with
> the fact that his Connally replicas are made of cardboard and not of
> anything that my common sense would regard as akin to human skin.
>
It is easier to photograph the cardboard for that experiment.
> But Lattimer was trying to determine if there was "tumble" not to
> duplicate the shape of the wounds.
>
No, Lattimer started with the false notion that Connally's back wound
was 3 cm long and set out to duplicate that.
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>> The parallel sides of these shapes differ from the
>> curved central ****tion of the elliptical wound on Governor Connally's
>> back.
>> So this physical evidence alone excludes a strike by a tumbling
>> bullet and conclusively shows a tangential entry.
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> I think that you're reaching here. Are you sure that you don't also
> want to argue that the cardboard replica of Connally didn't lose as
> much blood as Connally did?
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>> I suppose you dozed off before reading in the WCR that Dr. Shaw
>> closed the
>> small hole in the posterior side of the latissimus dorsi muscle with
>> one
>> suture while the elliptical surface wound required many sutures. This
>> characteristic of a small hole beneath a larger surface wound is the
>> result of a tangential entry. By contrast a tumbled bullet makes holes
> of
>> comparable sizes on and beneath the surface.
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> What I read was Dr. Shaw agreeing to the possibility that his patient
was
> struck by a tumbling bullet. He agrees that the back entrance wound is
> consistent with either a tumbling bullet or a tangential strike.
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> But a tangential entry is not possible, given the facts of this case.
>
And that's all that Shaw knew about. He was not a specialist in
ballistics.
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>> You should rejoiced in that the Parkland doctors do***ented a
>> tangential
>> strike.
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> Are you kidding? I threw a block party that lasted for days! The
> police had to be called out twice at the insistence of the neighbors.
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>> Their work allows a single bullet theory. The reason for this is
>> simple. Later tests conducted by Edgewood Arsenal provided data to >
show
>> that attributing the elongation of the wound to tumble deprives the
>> bullet
>> of the necessary kinetic energy to complete the wounding of Connally.
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> I'm sure that you're wrong. All of Connally's wounds were caused by
> one bullet, and he and Kennedy were aligned to receive from one bullet
> the wounds that they actually did receive.
>
No, the alignment does not work.
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>> I find it ironic that vocal defenders of the SBT argue vigorously
against
>> a vital part of their theory, especially when correcting a specterism
>> removes the major roadblocks to one bullet inflicting Connally's
>> wounds.
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> There are no roadblocks to one bullet inflicting Connally's wounds.
> He was in position to have all of his wounds inflicted by one bullet,
> and he and his wife agree that he was struck only once.
>
Ok, but no need for it to be the bullet which went through Kennedy.
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>> Despite objections from the Parkland doctors, Arlen Specter forced
>> the SBT
>> upon an upright Connally. The correct procedure would have
>> determined
>> those postures that allow one bullet to cause the five wounds.
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> The posture that he was in when he is first visibly reacting to having
> been struck by a bullet allows for that.
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>> Not
>> surprisingly, placing Connally at moderate angles of recline between a
>> quarter to eleven and eleven o'clock provides a wounding window that
>> includes early and late strikes from the TSBD. Excepting Doctor
>> Gregory's
>> descriptions of a roundish thigh wound, the remaining evidence from
>> Parkland when properly interpreted allows the greater ****tion of the
>> SBT.
>>
>> Unfortunately that pesky injury on President Kennedy's back keeps
>> getting
>> in the way. Bethesda do***ented a 4-mm by 7-mm oval bullet hole
>> with its
>> longer axis nearly parallel to the vertical column at thirty minutes to
>> twelve o'clock. However, the FPP who examined the autopsy
>> photographs of
>> the same injury re****ted a 10- mm by 7-mm oval abrasion with its
>> longer
>> axis at thirty minutes before nine o'clock.
>>
>> Forensic analysts recognize that the longer axis of a bullet hole is
>> coaxial with the longer axis of the surrounding abrasion. The physical
>> basis for this recognition is that the direction of tangential
component
>> of the striking velocity coincides with the directions of these longer
>> axes.
>>
>> So the SBT rests upon an injury that re****ts a missile going two
>> different
>> ways while entering, neither of which were on course for the alleged
>> exit
>> from the throat.
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> I'm sure that you're wrong since a bullet did exit from Kennedy's
> throat.
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