Re: Mary Ferrell denounces Judyth Baker

"Anthony Marsh" <anthony_marsh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> paul seaton wrote:
>
>>
>> "Martin Shackelford" <mshack4@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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>>> A very long time ago, people thought the same of you, Dave.
>>
>>
>> If you don't want people to attack you, Martin, you should take up a
less 
>> indefensible position & in particular stop blaming harmless dead old 
>> ladies when you run out of space to retreat to.
>>
>
> So, what you are saying is that whistleblowers should keep quiet for
their 
> own good.

Whistleblowers ??? !!
She used a false name to catch up on some legal/secretarial training, and 
Shackelford trumpets it like he just found out she was a hit woman for 
Mossad. Way to go , Carl bloody Bernstein .


Don't publish a book saying that the Sun is the center of our
> solar system because people might attack you.
>
>> You know damn well - if your mind is still functioning -there is no 
>> evidence for any of the interesting parts of Judyth's yarn except the
bit 
>> about working at Reily. You know damn well - if your mind is still 
>> functioning - her story has changed with the wind on a monotonously 
>> regular basis.
>>
>> You know damn well - if your mind is still functioning - she spoon fed 
>> you & Howard garbage re Mary F.
>>
>> We all know you thought you had found something really significant
here, 
>> and invested a lot of time & faith in working on it. But it's time to 
>> stop. You've reached the point where desperation is setting in & you
are 
>> clutching at virtually any straw - viz your highly objectionable 
>> embryonic slander of MF - you think might salvage something from the 
>> wreckage.
>>
>> Look around.
>>
>> For all your hard work, you haven't convinced ONE person worth
convincing 
>> of any of it. And you know why.
>>
>> That's right.
>>
>> It's all a pile of garbage Martin.
>>
>> Really.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> "Dave Reitzes" <dreitzes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>>>
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>>> On Jul 21, 8:23?pm, Barb Junkkarinen <barbREMOVE...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 21 Jul 2008 17:37:15 -0400, "Martin Shackelford"
>>>>
>>>> <msha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> >That facile assumption doesn't explain why Mary avoided talking
about
>>>> >the alias.
>>>>
>>>> What business is it of yours or ANYbody's?
>>>
>>>
>>> It's called the ad hominem fallacy.
>>>
>>> I bet a lot of people used to think Martin was above that sort of
>>> thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> That was her personal
>>>> history and personal business. She avoided talking about it because
>>>> she was embarrassed that she had ever done it.
>>>>
>>>> Some people care about things like that, Martin.
>>>>
>>>> Mary owed no one an explanation about the name .... least of all you
>>>> or Judyth.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >Martin
>>>>
>>>> >"John McAdams" <john.mcad...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>>> >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:19:07 -0700, Barb Junkkarinen
>>>> >> <barbREMOVE...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>On 20 Jul 2008 19:16:26 -0400, "paul seaton"
>>>> >>><paulNOseatonS...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>>"Anthony Marsh" <anthony_ma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>> >>>>news:uq6dnUBffIHfTx_VnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> >>>>> Martin Shackelford wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> This is a real mishmash of distortion--perhaps by Mary
>>>> herself. >>>>>> The
>>>> >>>>>> name
>>>> >>>>>> to which she refers is Mary Dean. It is "a name from [her]
>>>> past," >>>>>> not
>>>> >>>>>> someone she knew, but a name she used as an alias, something
she
>>>> >>>>>> admitted
>>>> >>>>>> to Judyth but never explained. It sounds like Carol Anne knows
>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>> story
>>>> >>>>>> behind it, but I doubt she would discuss it. Mary herself
>>>> asked >>>>>> Judyth
>>>> >>>>>> to
>>>> >>>>>> help her sort through some boxes of materials, and in the 
>>>> >>>>>> process
>>>> >>>>>> Judyth
>>>> >>>>>> ran across the "Mary Dean" materials, but when she asked Mary 
>>>> >>>>>> about
>>>> >>>>>> them,
>>>> >>>>>> Mary became upset that Judyth had seen them, and refused to 
>>>> >>>>>> discuss
>>>> >>>>>> them.
>>>> >>>>>> Later, Judyth found additional "Mary Dean" do***ents among
>>>> some >>>>>> things
>>>> >>>>>> Mary had given her, apparently inadvertently included. They
>>>> show >>>>>> that
>>>> >>>>>> Mary used the name while living in Ohio, and that she and Mary

>>>> >>>>>> Dean
>>>> >>>>>> were
>>>> >>>>>> the same person. They have been sent to Tony for inclusion
>>>> among >>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>> do***ents on his website.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>http://the-puzzle-palace.com/MaryDean.txt
>>>> >>>>>http://the-puzzle-palace.com/FerrellMaryDean.jpg
>>>>
>>>> >>>>"These are the do***ents showing that Mary Ferrell used the name
>>>> Mary
>>>> >>>>Dean
>>>> >>>>while living in Ohio, something Mary was never willing to
discuss.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>Martin"
>>>>
>>>> >>>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> >>>>What a bunch of.....******* .
>>>>
>>>> >>>No kidding.
>>>>
>>>> >>>And her address is clearly listed as MEMPHIS TENNESSEE.
>>>>
>>>> >>>Wonder which part of "Correspondence Course" Martin doesn't
>>>> >>>understand?<g>
>>>>
>>>> >>>Real secret from the school too as her assignment has both names
on
>>>> >>>it.<g>
>>>>
>>>> >> It's hard to see how this could be any sort of misconduct on
Mary's
>>>> >> part if the school knew perfectly well about the alias.
>>>>
>>>> >> .John
>>>> >> --------------
>>>> >>http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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