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Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client

by "~saba*gracile~" <veronisc@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 20, 2008 at 11:05 AM

"Ed Augusts" <AugustsBks@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> skrev i melding 
news:cc73d238-0626-4b6e-a9ab-2b9001648179@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I've got a difficult-to-handle client who, despite being a
> professional, has lately been in and out of mental hospitals. He was
> born 12/30/55, 11:55 pm.
>
> "Frank" (not his real name), has severe anger-management problems.
>
> He gets into fights with any and all female supervisors.
>
> I have ascribed the difficulty to, at least in part, to Frank's Mars
> in 20 deg. Scorpio, widely conjunct Saturn in 28 Scorpio, and both
> squaring (Saturn almost exactly squaring) Pluto in 28 Leo.
>
> He enjoys a ***tile from his Capricorn Mercury to his Mars, which has
> helped give him success in (let us say) the cor****ate world, but the
> robust little Merc-Mars ***tile seems to also give him an extreme need
> to use wilting sarcasm.
>
> Frank's Mars and Saturn in Scorpio (whether in conjunction or not),
> seem to keep him always in a sullen temper, brewing with resentment
> and antagonism against one or another chosen 'enemy'.  This includes
> his mother.  He effortlessly uses the "B* * *" word to describe his
> mother, especially in public places.
>
> These Scorpio aspects may be also at the root of hair loss and chronic
> skin problems.
>
> His exact Saturn square Pluto bears comment. He always strongly feels
> that he is in the grip of poverty, (Saturn), even after he got a
> $80,000 inheritance. (Pluto), and was beside himself with confusion
> and doubt until he'd spent all the money.  He constantly schemes at
> ways of making a huge amount of money (Pluto), which always get shot
> down when his illusions are interrupted by reality (Saturn).  He
> understands astrology but can't seem to derive any lessons from the
> knowledge of these planetary placements.
>
> In October of this year he got into a paranoid and delusional state
> which led him to be stopped and questioned by police who, based on his
> responses, took him to a hospital, which in turn led to his spending 5
> weeks in 2 different psychiatric wards.
>
> Anybody here seen "malefic" Scorpio planets, badly aspected,
> manifesting anger and frustration in these kinds of 'textbook' ways?
> I realize Mars is said to rule or co-rule Scorpio. But just because
> Mars is in one of its two 'home' signs doesn't seem to make it
> adaptable, pleasant, or 'fun'.  Aggression and sullen anger, to the
> point of eating away at the individual, are visible.
>
> 'Frank' and I don't always communicate successfully;  my Venus-Mercury
> conjunction is closely opposite his Sun, and his Mars closely
> quincunxes my Gemini Sun.  But I know he sometimes watches this Group,
> so he and I might both be helped by any comments you care to make .
>
> Thanks!

I want to comment on the last comment here, Venus-Mercury to the other's
Sun is way better than no communication aspect at all. You are linked to
the
person communication wise, probably no coincidence either. Couples
especially
need to be connected by Mercury and Sun (whichever aspect better than
none),
in order to have a chance at the lifeline called open communication.
You are also linked to this man by a powerful Sun-Mars, although quincunx
which
makes it more back and forth, is still a great aspect,- are there other
planets, asteroids
involved in a configuration? then the better.Then it's a powerful tool and
a superlink.
The problem with the textbook interpretations are, they are simplified and
leaves you
cold and are basically useless. If you are his shrink or whatever, there
will be forces
of wills, but you don't have to live with the person, so this is actually
helpful for
untangling messes together. The best help one can give clients are if such
an
edgyness is present, smudging things over are of no use to your client for
sure.
He's a typical Martian person, he will learn to trust you with this
connection,
and ensure better cooperation the more contact you have with him.

Veronica
>
> ------Ed
> www.edaugusts.com
>
 




 20 Posts in Topic:
"Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
Ed Augusts <AugustsBks  2008-04-14 20:01:58 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
CFA <bogus@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-14 23:11:25 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
"~saba*gracile~"  2008-04-20 11:06:47 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
CFA <bogus@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-20 14:12:14 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
"~saba*gracile~"  2008-04-20 17:49:48 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
Jyeshta <whatever@[EMA  2008-04-15 18:48:31 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
pedantus <pedantus@[EM  2008-04-18 07:34:55 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
"~saba*gracile~"  2008-04-20 11:05:19 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
"~saba*gracile~"  2008-04-20 11:09:54 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
Ed Augusts <AugustsBks  2008-04-20 11:07:37 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
Pandora <pandora@[EMAI  2008-04-21 05:24:29 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
Ed Augusts <AugustsBks  2008-04-20 11:09:32 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
Ed Augusts <AugustsBks  2008-04-20 11:12:09 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
CFA <bogus@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-20 14:46:17 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
pedantus <pedantus@[EM  2008-04-21 05:27:20 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
Ed Augusts <edaugusts@  2008-04-22 13:19:19 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
Ed Augusts <edaugusts@  2008-04-22 13:16:49 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
Pandora <pandora@[EMAI  2008-04-22 17:40:53 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
Ed Augusts <edaugusts@  2008-04-22 13:51:25 
Re: "Mars and Saturn in Scorpio" client
"~saba*gracile~"  2008-04-22 18:19:09 

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