On Apr 29, 1:03 am, Hermes <her...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Apollia wrote:
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> > On Apr 28, 5:36 pm, Hermes <her...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <7c338bfe-fbd8-450d-9aa3-37bd7b42e...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>
> > > Apollia <xerxes...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > On Apr 27, 5:55 pm, Hermes <her...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > Apollia wrote:
>
> > > > >
:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/browse_thread/...
> > > > > : "ADB Politicians with Mars in Leo or Aries"
> > > > > :
> > > > >
:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/browse_thread/...
> > > > > : "More Aquarians in astrology than Taureans"
>
> > > > > Same thing :)
>
> > > > > Statistically indistinguishable from random noise.
> > > > > (Less data than for the basketballers, so larger
> > > > > relative fluctuations are more likely to occur).
>
> > > > > For the record: I do not agree with Ray Murphy. :)
>
> > > > OK, for the record, I hope nothing I said implies that you do.
:-)
> > > > And, nothing I said was meant to imply anything like that.
>
> > > > As for what I agree with - well, I don't know, I don't understand
this
> > > > stuff well enough yet to make up my mind, so, I'm going to keep
trying
> > > > to remain basically agnostic and neutral... :-)
>
> > >http://www.exactphilosophy.net/sample/sample.html
>
> > > A Java Applet that randomly picks one of 12 numbers
> > > 2911 times and plots the count for two arbitrary
> > > numbers in function of added count for both numbers
> > > together, i.e. same type of graph as Ray presented,
> > > but with random data instead of collected birth data.
>
> > > Click the graph to generate a new sample. Should not
> > > take long until you see graphs that resemble the ones
> > > presented by Ray very much.
>
> > > Also contains a link to the Java source code.
>
> > Thank you! That's a really neat program. Makes me want to learn
> > Java...
>
> > > This is not at all a border case where one suspects
> > > that maybe the presented data might be significant.
> > > This is a clear case of noise, not of any provable
> > > structure. Trust me, I have a Ph.D. in physics. :)
>
> > > Would be nice if it was different, but is not so.
>
> > >http://www.exactphilosophy.net/
> > > Something different...
>
> > > )o+
>
> > I definitely do trust you, but, I don't really want to accept anything
> > just on blind faith in someone's authority/credentials (otherwise I'd
> > have to dismiss astrology on the basis of zillions of other scientists
> > saying it's nonsense). :-)
>
> > I have to reach the point of being able to understand this stuff
> > myself - then, I'll be able to make up my mind.
>
> > That said, I highly esteem your opinion, I hope someday I'll be able
> > to understand this stuff as well as you... :-)
>
> But it is so obvious! :)
> Don't the graphs look very similar?
> Don't they occur at every so-and-so click?
:-) Well, yes, I can see that they look similar and they occur rather
often, but I have such a poor overall understanding of this stuff I
just think it's best for me to refrain from jumping to any
conclusions.
> Isn't the source code very brief and simple?
Astoni****ngly so... :-)
> Recently I started to read the Bertold Brecht's play
> "Leben des Galileo" ("Life of Galileo") where he
> simply tries to get people to take a look through his
> telescope to see the moons of Jupiter that rotate
> around it and thus are something that does not move
> around the Earth, a direct proof that the strict
> geocentric world view cannot be true, that it is not
> possible that all the planets move on actual crystal
> spheres around Earth... The people at that time
> simply chose not to look through the telescope and
> instead to present all kinds of arguments why it was
> not necessary to look through it, i.e. they placed
> the element Air before Earth.
Well, maybe the most Earthy solution in this situation would be to
just gather more basketball player data and see if the most are Virgos
and the least are Tauruses again.
> What was the quote by Douglas Adams again? ;)
>
> : "See first, think later, then test. But always see first. Otherwise
> : you will only see what you were expecting. Most scientists forget
> : that."
> :
> : --Douglas Adams. Collected 21:47 2/14/2008.
>
> Sure in the Age of Pisces physical reality (Earth)
> was less im****tant than inner convictions or truths,
> but science is more the other axis, Virgo, earthier,
> more practical. Brecht had the sun in Aquarius.
> Actually I had intended to write an article related
> to that quote and the one the described science as
> "a medival superstition", where I wanted to look at
> science and at astrology from both sides and place
> them in the times they came up (foremost in terms
> of astrological ages). Maybe another time...
>
> )o+
I look forward to reading it if you write it... :-)
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Apollia My website: http://www.astroblahhh.com/
Birth data: -qa July 3 1981 12:50 EDT 79:59W 40:26N (Pittsburgh, PA)
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