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Dr. Martin Luther King Jr's Anti Vietnam War Speech

by "astynaz@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <astynaz@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 15, 2008 at 05:35 AM

Dr Martin Luther King Jr's speech .....speaking out against the
Vietnam War

and even said
"Their questions hit home, and I knew that I could never again raise
my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without
having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in
the world today: my own government. "


Jeremiah Wright is no Dr. King, but he did speak out against foreign
policy and the violence that US govt is all about.
In that way, he was similar to Dr. King.

Of course, Jeremiah Wright was no match for him.


"Beyond Vietnam"
Address delivered to the Clergy and Laymen
Concerned about Vietnam, at Riverside Church
4 April 1967
New York City
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/MLKapr67.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80Bsw0UG-U

I checked out Eris because his speech was controversial as he spoke
out against the status quo and said things that many didn't want to
hear.  It definitely stir things up. He was diverged from the
political norms. King was disowned by many of his sup****ters, was
denounced as a traitor to the nation.  Dr. King questioned the
legitimacy of America's Cold War policies and assumptions.  That led
him to be viewed as a Communist sympathizer and put under surveillance
by his own government. Obviously, Dr. King was viewed as Anti-
American.



I also believe that Eris which I feel is connected to ideology and the
believing that one's views are right but others are wrong has to do
with exposing the selfrighteousness,hypocrisy that people have. It's
like pointing out people's crap stink even though they act like it
doesn't.

using noon time because of unknown time


Direct Midpoints (both near and far)

Eris conjunct Mercury/Node midpoint - '36 applying
Ceres conjunct Eris/Node midpoint - '41 separating
Saturn oppose Chiron/Eris midpoint - '09 applying





Here is some interesting stuff:

 Commentary: Race, faith and politics

 (CNN) -- The revelation of controversial comments made by the
longtime pastor of Sen. Barack Obama, and the equally hot aftermath
from the general public that led to the junior senator from Illinois
delivering a strong speech/sermon on race in America, has opened anew
the explosive connection between three of the most volatile issues
today.
   If a poll were taken, there is no doubt that race, faith and
politics would be the most emotional, passionate and divisive topics.
Why? Because all three are so deeply personal. What one person sees as
a negative, another would determine as a strength.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/21/roland.martin/index.html?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail



Similarly, although King spoke famously against the Vietnam War before
a largely white audience at Riverside Church in New York in 1967,
exactly a year before he died, he reserved some of his strongest
antiwar language for his sermons before black congregations. In his
own pulpit at Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, two months before
his death, King raged against America's "bitter, colossal contest for
supremacy." He argued that God "didn't call America to do what she's
doing in the world today," preaching that "we are criminals in that
war" and that we "have committed more war crimes almost than any
nation in the world." King insisted that God "has a way of saying, as
the God of the Old Testament used to say to the Hebrews, 'Don't play
with me, Israel. Don't play with me, Babylon. Be still and know that
I'm God. And if you don't stop your reckless course, I'll rise up and
break the backbone of your power.' "

Perhaps nothing might surprise -- or shock -- white Americans more
than to discover that King said in 1967: "I am sorry to have to say
that the vast majority of white Americans are racist, either
consciously or unconsciously." In a sermon to his congregation in
1968, King openly questioned whether blacks should celebrate the
nation's 1976 bicentennial. "You know why?" King asked. "Because it
[the Declaration of Independence] has never had any real meaning in
terms of implementation in our lives."

In the same year, King bitterly suggested that black folk couldn't
trust America, comparing blacks to the Japanese who had been interred
in concentration camps during World War II. "And you know what, a
nation that put as many Japanese in a concentration camp as they did
in the '40s ... will put black people in a concentration camp. And I'm
not interested in being in any concentration camp. I been on the
reservation too long now." Earlier, King had written that America "was
born in genocide when it embraced the doctrine that the original
American, the Indian, was an inferior race."
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/suncommentary/la-oe-dyson4apr04,1,1626213.story


Jeremiah Wright is viewed as being racist and Anti-American????
Man.....Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said similar things.  Does that
make him racist and Anti-American????

I don't think so.



Raymond Andrews
 




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