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NCGR U.S.A. SHENANIGANS

by "Ray Murphy" <raymur@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 6, 2008 at 04:23 AM

[Pallas- Saturn discussion] on:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrologyncgr/

> You've just written 6 totally unnecessary critical responses to a
> simple list of data that I posted for members on this group
> participating in a  discussion about having a Pallas-Saturn aspect.
> The list of data  was for anyone interested in that particular
> discussion.
> The list made no claims, and it certainly wasn't presented as a
> research project.  Research  needs to first have an hypothesis.
> No  hypothesis was proposed.  Lady X made an  initial statement
> that she assigns the  Pallas-Saturn conjunction to  "pattern
> recognition."  Others confirmed  and responded with other aspects
> and  personal examples of  Pallas-Saturn.  You have made statements
> at how  you  believe the delineation of Pallas-Saturn was 
> fabricated,
> that asteroids don't interest you and that you don't use them.  So,
> why are you now repeatedly criticizing a simple list of limited,
> well-defined data about something that doesn't interest you as 
> though
> it were some  research that held great im****tance to you?  Most of 
> the
> arguments that you're  throwing at  us are statements that I firmly
> believe and that were properly  addressed in  context of my data,
> which was not  a research project.
>
> To address your points about research:
>
> Yes - having an initial hypothesis is following the Scientific
> Method
>
> Yes - sample size is critical
>
> Yes - accurate data is critical
>
> Yes - using a minimum number of viable and representative control
> groups is  required
>
> Yes - a single planetary aspect cannot be the sole factor
>
> Yes - accurate models are made of hundreds of single aspects and
> other  astrological events that all have a high, pre-determined,
> greater-than-chance statistical benchmark of occurring.
>
> Yes - findings must be able to be duplicated by other competent
> researchers
>
> However:
>
> No -- p value is not the one and only way of describing statistical
> results.
> As you well know, you've brought up this argument before, and there
> was a  thorough and detailed discussion.  If you wish to refresh
> your  memory,  please go back to messages #2277 and #2279 in
> our archives and  review the  information.
>
> No -- Jigsaw is not the ultimate, one-and-only research tool.  For
> what it  does, it's good.  However, it does not have Artificial
> Intelligence; it is  limited in both flexibility and the types of 
> events
> that it  can  process;  and, it hasn't really grown very much over 
> the
> 10+ years since it   first hit  the market.  Its developer has not 
> been
> putting consistent energy  into developing standard research tools
> for quite some time.
>
> -Peter

RM: Gotcha Pete. I can take a hint. "Don't promote any research
software that is better than Alphee's flakey system on any
National GeoCosmic Research website.

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrologyncgr/

Ray



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NCGR U.S.A. SHENANIGANS
"Ray Murphy" &l  2008-01-06 04:23:17 
Re: NCGR U.S.A. SHENANIGANS
Sharon Blatz <Libralov  2008-01-12 18:38:43 
Re: NCGR U.S.A. SHENANIGANS
CFA   2008-02-06 00:35:03 
Re: NCGR U.S.A. SHENANIGANS
Jyeshta <whatever@[EMA  2008-02-12 20:38:14 
Re: NCGR U.S.A. SHENANIGANS
CFA   2008-02-13 15:16:08 

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