On Sat, 10 May 2008 20:55:43 -0700, dead <kosmicgeek@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 11, 11:04 am, Gordon <gor...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 17:50:29 -0700, dead <kosmicg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > On May 11, 8:39 am, dead <kosmicg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> On May 11, 8:15 am, dead <kosmicg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On May 11, 12:52 am, king kill 33º <gor...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>>
>> >> > > I remember when Vanier first started posting here. He and Judi
>> >> were
>> >> > > something of an item back then and they would tag team assault
>> >> anyone that
>> >> > > posted in the group. Then Bruce came along and stole Judi's
>> heart,
>> >> and
>> >> > > they conspired to have Vanier arrested and so he was. I think
>> he
>> >> spent
>> >> > > four or five months in the hoosegow over that, boy was he
>> pissed.
>> >> Angry
>> >> > > at Bruce, angry at Judi, angry at his relatives, he became an
>> >> oozing sore
>> >> > > of upset bitterness. He used to brag about getting BJ's from
>> Judi
>> >> but he
>> >> > > wouldn't let her kiss him, something to do with rancid breath.
>> He
>> >> loved
>> >> > > to belittle, in fact he never seemed happier then when he was
>> >> pissing &
>> >> > > moaning over someone or some upset from long ago that he just
>> >> couldn't put
>> >> > > to rest. He started claiming he was going to bring crime
>> >> statistics to
>> >> > > zero, and for awhile crime stats did go down which whipped him
>> into
>> >> a real
>> >> > > "told you so" frenzy. This dip in crime became the definitive
>> >> proof in
>> >> > > the pudding for his claim of enlightenment. He used it
>> >> relentlessly,
>> >> > > slapping the face of everyone he could with his whiskey soaked
>> >> > > enlightenment, all from the comfortable seclusion of his
>> government
>> >>
>> >> > > provided apartment. These were certainly his best of times as
>> he
>> >> wore the
>> >> > > masks of drunk guru and frustrated process server. His need for
>> an
>> >>
>> >> > > audience kept the group fed with his rambling posts, and even
>> some
>> >> > > entertaining video work. Who doesn't remember with fondness his
>>
>> >> Clark
>> >> > > Kent/Superman video. Yet for all his enlightenment he wasn't
>> able
>> >> to drop
>> >> > > his hurt feelings toward his family, a family deserving his
>> >> constant
>> >> > > verbal abuse for the simple reason they would not or could not
>> >> admit that
>> >> > > it was "they" who were dysfunctional, and not him as they
>> insisted.
>> >> He
>> >> > > used to say "you're only as sick as your secrets" and based on
>> that
>> >> he
>> >> > > figured that saying whatever popped into his head was more proof
>>
>> >> that he
>> >> > > wasn't holding anything back, that he wasn't a sick little ego
>> like
>> >> the
>> >> > > rest of us "maggots" (his favorite name for everyone outside
>> >> himself).
>> >> > > Though shortly after admitting to a same *** tryout with his
>> older
>> >> brother
>> >> > > he dropped that schtick and moved on to more fanciful claims.
>> He
>> >> was
>> >> > > intensely caught up in detecting secret messages in the
>> strangest
>> >> of
>> >> > > places. He used to read meaning from the shades and windows in
>> >> buildings,
>> >> > > in the eyes of celebrity photo's in the rags at the check-outs
>> in
>> >> grocery
>> >> > > stores, as well as finding intricate messages embedded into
>> 72dpi
>> >> web
>> >> > > images. It almost seemed as though the more ridiculous the idea
>>
>> >> the more
>> >> > > he embraced it, and it was during this phase of things that he
>> >> began to
>> >> > > slip deeper into the machinations of his own crossed wires.
>> Soon
>> >> he was
>> >> > > telling us he had trans****ted the entirety of the planet Earth,
>> >> people,
>> >> > > animals, plants, dirt, the whole enchilada to another area of
>> the
>> >> > > universe, to a Ring World which he created using the powers of
>> his
>> >>
>> >> > > enlightenment. The proof of this fantastic claim could be
>> >> confirmed,
>> >> > > according to him, by simply looking into the sky at night to see
>>
>> >> for
>> >> > > yourself that all of the familiar stars were gone, except oddly
>> >> enough for
>> >> > > some fifty or so. Anyone who tried to suggest they could see
>> lots
>> >> of
>> >> > > stars in the sky were identified as liars in denial. The point
>> of
>> >> all
>> >> > > this Ring World willy-nilly was never made clear though because
>> it
>> >> was
>> >> > > during this time that Vanier lost his comfy government provided
>> >> apartment
>> >> > > and was forced to live on the streets from out of his car. This
>>
>> >> change in
>> >> > > cir***stance turned out to be fortuitous for his cross wires as
>> it
>> >> forced
>> >> > > him to mingle with a select group of "down & outers", or
>> "crazies"
>> >> by
>> >> > > social standards and it was here that he found a new audience in
>>
>> >> which to
>> >> > > hawk his guru-ness. Having found an alternative set of ears to
>> >> toot his
>> >> > > guru horn at, playing to a set of characters he could more
>> easily
>> >> dominate
>> >> > > with tales of power and enlightenment. He became less and less
>> in
>> >> need of
>> >> > > the little backwater cesspool of maggots that once kept his ego
>> >> wheels
>> >> > > greased. And that pretty much brings us up to the present
>> moment
>> >> of
>> >> > > things. A time of ceremonial parting of seas so to speak, when
>> the
>> >> things
>> >> > > of the past slip ever quicker into the indistinct greyness of
>> >> distant
>> >> > > perspectives. I for one salute the whole thing for what it was
>> >> thought to
>> >> > > be, for what it wanted to be, and for knowing all the while it
>> was
>> >> never
>> >> > > as it seemed. So with the shadowy graveyard of things
>> remembered
>> >> > > stretching out before me I turn and make my way into a past not
>> yet
>> >> born,
>> >> > > at the horizon of once upon a time.
>>
>> >> > every nigga gota nigga. whats wrong with this world is its all so
>> >> > crazy how do you know what is and isn't bad anymore. they say
>> america
>> >> > is "free" because there are so many mind ****ers out to get you
>> >> > atleast you get to choose. this is the corner some are backed
into
>> >> > because the negative kids and the negotiators pretending to be
>> >> > tolerant of "differences" don't offer a "something" to fight for
or
>> >> > believe in. that's the problem, freedom of voice and religion has
>> no
>> >> > freedom to standardize the truth, and in america every one wanting
>> to
>> >> > do so is just another voice of religious craze.. trying to play
the
>> >> > game to their own advantage over everyone else under guise of a
>> mass
>> >> > controlled media propoganda to play to democracy.- Hide quoted
>> text -
>>
>> >> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >> it's another horizon to reach. the world wasn't better before it
was
>> >> very much like one world your born in is the world you die in, now
we
>> >> have to make effort to keep our mind prisons secure around us like
>> >> it's a personal choice or personal insanity.
>>
>> >> and personal creativity is heard within the general kook stuff. kids
>> >> are born thinking life is all about making up bull**** to these
>> >> parents now days, if the parent is "free thinking" enough to let the
>> >> kid make it up for himself it is still based on the basic principle
>> of
>> >> "anything goes man!"... there is this underlying fuzzy thinkers
>> >> approach to everything kind of dominating from behind whatever
scenes
>> >> there are, and i bet even if the kid is like hitler the parents will
>> >> be pampering his beliefs, the kid doesn't have to buy into the
>> >> anything-goes mentality like his parents they might simply use it to
>> >> thrive in their own idealogy like extremists using multicultural-
>> >> sloguns to buy their way into the democratic loophole.
>>
>> > the world is like frankenstein and the creators are bad doctors, you
>> > might even find a nose stitched on an ass (or two)..... its real
ugly,
>> > but its real fun too, you can ride with it if you treat it like a
>> > phase maybe you can feel lucky to experience it all goin' on right
now
>> > but we might only just be entering the dark ages... everyone makes it
>> > up as they go along, i think it iwll become more obvious how that is
>> > happening, and we might find evolution take the op****tunity in this
>> > movement to make a move.
>>
>> Gordon: So why do you call yourself "dead"?
>
> hmm, never been good with timing.
Gordon: What's a guy supposed to make of that?


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