> >Do you feel you can elaborate on that a little? I don't
> >want to pry, I'm just curious.
>
> I'm sorry I haven't replied to you sooner. It was simply that your
> tone was that of teacher to pupil, and it annoyed me.
Oh, sorry! I *am* a teacher, in fact, so sometimes I think that
tone creeps in when all I'm doing is musing "aloud" about a
subject.
> I prefer not to be specific about the nature of these contact
> experiences because they contain content that was shared privately
> between me and each different loved one.
Understood.
> >> >how long it takes. After all, we've got eternity; there is no meter
> >> >running.
> >>
> >> Maybe there is (a meter running).
> >
> >Maybe there is! But then -- who's driving the damn cab? <ggg>
>
> That is the question. :-)
It is.
> Well, but my point was, in this incredibly vast universe, there are
> millions or billions of planets, physical life must abound, and at
> what stages are they in their journeys? Every scrap of us includes
> them and I am not at all sure that every physical life entity will be
> completed with their journeys by the time a new universe could be
> created - and then what? We start all over again? Sounds horrendous!
Sounds like a good science fiction/fantasy story to me; but
it's not something I can wrap my mind around, really: the time
perspectives just seem incomprehensibly vast. One scholar of
these matters tells me that there has already been, on this one
planet, a previous (to us) wave of self-conscious beings with
what we think of as souls who worked through their entire
spiritual development back in the pre-Cambrian age or there
abouts, in the form of some kind of big jellyfish creature. If the
complete cycle is maybe around twenty thousand years, say, for
beings that have a life span like ours, that's just a drop in the
bucket of all time. Many many animal species could have carried
many -- ah -- what? Populations? of souls through their physical
phase just in all the time the universe has already existed, let
alone what's still to come.
As for starting over again, just the idea of having to come back
*here* a bunch of times more is enough to make me groan:
please, no, I've had enough! Well, *I* think I have . . .
> >*Real* "meaninglessness* for me
> >would be an end without time for resolution, but I take the concept
> >of "eternity" to mean, time "enough" for all of it.
> All right - I'm not sure there will be enough time. And even if there
> were, it is beyond me to imagine what would be the ultimate
> culmination - what we would do next.
Same for me; but I kind of think that all that is something that
just waits out there for us until we get to it, kind of like puberty,
when you're only eight. Struggling to think about it is interesting,
but maybe it's just a diversion, at this point, from the job at
hand, which is the job we *can* do even if we don't understand
even that yet.
I was talking with a friend about sci-fi recently and bemoaning the
fact that at my age, I'm not likely to live long enough to experience
our first contact with an "alien" species. He said don't worry about
it, it's going to be mostly wild misunderstandings anyway -- how
can we communicate effectively with aliens, when we still haven't
even figured out how to do that among ourselves? I think it's still
baby-steps for us, but I also think we'll have more than all the time
we need; but I can't really justify that belief, I just *think* so.
> What you said in a prior post, about the urge to experience
> physicality - to be able to run in a strong body - many cannot! To
> taste favorite foods again - I believe all one need do is remember it
> and the taste is experienced. I don't believe at all that the
> prospect of physicality is attractive to the older discarnate soul or
> entity.
Well, but suppose you were unable to have an athletic or even a
fit body in this life, but then you're done and you realize that for
your next time around you can choose a body that's super-fit and
maybe is even going to be able to travel to the stars -- the
*physical* stars, not the vibrational perception of them that I
suppose non-physical beings would have. That would be a pretty
strong temptation, wouldn't it? I think it's a grass-is-always-
greener kind of situation: when you're in the body, you long to be
pure spirit, but when you're only spirit -- maybe then you long for
the powers of the body? Why else would we keep coming back
(which I believe we do)? Because of some kind of determinism?
Well, maybe -- but I'd rather believe that I choose to return
because there's something magnetic about being *here*, too.
And in the absence of proof either way, I think I'll stay with that.
> In any case, you didn't seem so condescending this time, and I
> appreciate that.
Thankyou! I'm also an eldest child (of three sisters) who had a
working mom, so I was, in a way, a "teacher" long before I ever
stepped into a formal classroom. Old habits die hard. Just smack
me when I get on some high horse or other, will you?
C
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