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Re: Handgun ban in U.S. capital could reach Supreme Court

by "Scout" <me4guns@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sep 25, 2007 at 12:49 AM

"Magus" <Nope@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> Scout wrote:
>> "Magus" <Nope@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>> news:y0YJi.64425$Y7.64012@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Scout wrote:
>>>> "Leif" <leifrakur2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> <snip>
>>>>> Leif speaking:  Then we agree that the militia consisted of those
who
>>>>> were obliged to militia service by law, rather that being taken from
>>>>> persons from the general public who happened to have a gun?
>>>> So once again Leif is back to claiming the militia is defined under 
>>>> federal/state law.
>>>>
>>>> You really do need to make up your mind there Leif, exactly who
defines 
>>>> the militia. Is it the Founding Fathers, the law, or SCOTUS?
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and no matter how the militia is defined.....the right is still 
>>>> that of the people. You do know who the people are, right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No he doesn't. According to him it's those obliged to serve in the 
>>> militia.
>>
>> Well, he says that then turns around and ignores both federal and state

>> law and claims that SCOTUS says the militia is only the National Guard.
>>
>> He really does need some consistency in his argument because his 
>> assertion of who the militia is changes from message to message. One 
>> might even get the impression he doesn't know, other than he wants it
to 
>> sound like he does and he doesn't want it to mean anyone not under the 
>> thumb of the federal government.
>>
>>
>
> His inconsistency comes from reading into things what he wants to see 
> there. He starts with "this is how things are" and looks for cites that 
> vaguely sup****t his opinion--rather than reading the material to
determine 
> the truth.

Sounds about right. Certainly does explain the fact that he can't hold a 
consistent arguement from one source or cite to another.


>>> According to Weasel it's the federal government.
>>
>> Citing Weasel is sort of like quoting a chipmunk. A lot of chatter, but

>> no content.
>>
>
> Was I citing the Weasel or using him as another absurdity?

I wouldn't put Leif and Weasel on the same level. Leif seems at least able

to engage in some sort of cognitive mental process even if it is
orientated 
to trying to prove what he knows must be true (ie the FF couldn't possibly

mean for the ordinary average person to be able to have guns and other 
arms). Weasel's thought process such as it is, seems to derive more as an 
expression of mental static than any sort of cognitive functioning. One of

the reasons why one is in my killfile and the other is not, at least yet.
 




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