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Re: Handgun ban in U.S. capital could reach Supreme Court

by "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sep 26, 2007 at 11:44 AM

Leif <leifrakur2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in news:1190785460.315067.69120@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Sep 24, 1:19 pm, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Leif <leifrak...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in news:1190664627.886364.76610@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:
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>> >> > Leif speaking:  In everything I find from the time of the 
Framers,
>> the
>> >> > militia were defined in state militia law, which included all
>> citizens
>> >> > capable of bearing arms and falling within certain age limits.  
>> There
>> >> > was no "drawing" to be done.
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>> >> No one said there was.
>>
>> > Leif speaking:  Then we agree that the militia consisted of those 
who
>> > were obliged to militia service by law, rather that being taken from
>> > persons from the general public who happened to have a gun?
>>
>> >> Is English your first language?
>>
>> > Leif speaking:  First above all.  What's yours?
>>
>> Then how could you have managed to misconstrue what I said so badly?  
>> Everyone else understood it.
>>
>> --
>> RD (The Sandman)
>>
>> War is absolute hell.....but to give in
>> to terrorism is much, much worse- Hide quoted text -
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> Leif speaking:  Well, it sure sounds to me as if you were agreeing
> with me.  If you weren't, perhaps you can explain what you meant by
> "No one said there was."
> 
> 

Damn, you have trouble even following your own statements.  You stated:

"In everything I find from the time of the Framers, the militia were 
defined in state militia law, which included all citizens capable of 
bearing arms and falling within certain age limits.  There was no 
"drawing" to be done."

My reply was to your last sentence:

"No one said there was."

IOW, it wasn't treated like a turkey raffle.  The people were citizens 
with the right to keep and bear arms.  When needed for the militia they 
were called to service.  Were all of them called?  Nope, just the number 
they felt they needed.  However, when called, those citizens who were 
called "...were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves 
and of the kind in common use at the time.."  US v Miller - 1939


-- 
RD (The Sandman)

War is absolute hell.....but to give in 
to terrorism is much, much worse
 




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