"old man joe" <not@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> because man is not saved by the will of man ( Joh. 1:13 ) and
> because at least these 4 Bible men were saved while yet fetuses,
> the will wor****ppers, rejecting this, as with the rest of Scripture,
> expound a gospel that satisfies both heart and ear.
>
Same what Catholic Church teach that Jesus saves, but you have also to
walk
in Jesus steps. Folowing Elen G. White steps leads in wrong direction.
>
> God loves the wicked so much he refers to them in the Bible as
> " swine; dogs; children of wrath; cursed of My Father " and so on.
>
wow ! God cursed people to be swine, dogs etc. Where is that in The Bible?
>
> Apostle Paul filled no conditions to merit salvation, nor did the
> rest of the apostles. all were chosen by the saving love of God
> simply because it pleases God to perform salvation through Christ
> without human assistance as we read in Eph. 1:3-14
>
Says Paul. What God decided about apostles Paul did not know.
> why then do will wor****ppers offer a gospel of salvation based on
> the will of man ?
>
> quite simply, this offers the boast of the flesh. they love
> humbling God and exalting themselves. this is what the devils gospel
> is all about... " indeed, hath God said "... " is salvation not by the
> will of man Joh. 1:13 ? " "
>
Criminals are not released from the jail by their own will but by the will
of judiciary.
See paralel here?
But, to be released early, they have to work hard while in prison.
So do men on Earth to rich Heaven and God's grace.
Sorry, nothing is free.
Keep dreaming: Kill some neighbours, steal some money, rape some boys -
all
forgiven as you are saved by grace and you work do not count and you will
see your destiny on Judgement day.
And keep giving us 10% of your income, we need a new jetplane.
Some are going for the big surprise on Judgement day.
Keep replacing Jesus teaching with false fanthasia of Elen G. White ort
other false "prophets" teachings like: Jesus and Jews drink grape juice
instead of wine.
Only people who never visit Mediteranean countries like Israel can believe
that grape juice does not ferment from September (when picked) to April
(Pasha) without today's refrigerators and 20st Century food preservatives.
Elen was never in Israel or wine shop where there are zillions of botles
with Kosher wine approved by Rabbi for Sacramental Jewish ceremonies.
Try to tell to any Jew that they don't drink 4 gl***** of wine on Pashal
dinner (seder). Or offer inhabitants of Mediteranean countries to drink
grape juice instead of wine.
I am a Jew and I drink wine daily.
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