Martin Shackelford wrote:
> Again, Barb simply reposts her original claims, with no acknowledgement
> of contrary information since posted.
>
> Martin
What contrary information? Judyth has at least three versions of this
story besides the one posted here.
Although it would have been nice if Barb had included the Manatee
catalog, available through collegesource.org, that shows the class was
available, in the evening, in the 59-60 academic year. Which is before
Judyth claimed the class was created for her.
>
> "Barb Junkkarinen" <barbREMOVEjfk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:bp8p245c886cheg392ormdfnj00e8kpnel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> In her book, Judyth describes Lt. Col. Phillip Doyle, a retired
>> military officer and one of her teachers at Manatee High School as her
>> "high school mentor and hero." She notes he had im****tant links to
>> scientists, doctors, politicians and had conservative military
>> friends.
>>
>> On page 2, she writes,...
>>
>> QUOTE [all emphasis mine-bj]
>>
>> Col. Doyle's conservative military friends, learning of my desire to
>> read scientific journals from Russia, decided to ORGANIZE A RUSSIAN
>> CLASS AT THE NEW LOCAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE SO I WOULD BE ABLE 'to re****t
>> on what Russians were publi****ng' in the cancer research field. THEY
>> LOCATED AND HIRED A RUSSIAN INSTRUCTOR, DR. T. CONCEVITCH, TO TEACH
>> EVENINGS AT MANATEE JR. COLLEGE -- AND PAID MY FEES. There were some
>> fifteen students in that FIRST RUSSIAN CLASS. I switched to an audit
>> basis after missing three cl***** in a row AFTER winning top honors at
>> The Florida State Science Fair, becoming ONE OF TWO STATE DELEGATES TO
>> THE INTERNATIONAL SCIENCE FAIR IN INDIANAPOLIS.
>>
>> END QUOTE
>>
>> That places this "first" Russian class, especially arranged, with
>> instructor especially hired to teach it for her, in the SPRING
>> SEMESTER of 1960.
>>
>> I had learned from the registrar at the college (now called Manatee
>> Community College) that in the 1960-1961 time frame I had asked about,
>> there was a course in Russian and it was taught by an instructor named
>> Concevitch.
>>
>> So far, so good.
>>
>> But, I had also googled Russian and Manatee Junior College and 1960.
>> And this came up:
>>
>> QUOTE
>>
>> JSTOR: Russian in the Public and Private Schools of the USA 1959 Feb.,
>> 1960. Russian in the Public and Private Schools of the USA I959 HE
>> introduction ... Manatee Junior College, Bradenton, Fla. South Broward
>> High School, ...
>>
links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0026-7902(196002)44%3A2%3C77%3ARITPAP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-U
>> - Similar pages - Note this
>>
>>
>> END QUOTE
>>
>> 1959? I was curious. So I clicked on it and went to this "JSTOR" site
>> which said I was not authorized to access the article.
>>
>> Turns out JSTOR is an "interdisciplinary archive to sup****t
>> scholar****p and teaching" ...it's an archive that institutions,
>> libraries, colleges, etc can pay to join and have access to articles.
>> I was able to read the article through an institution that belongs to
>> JSTOR.
>>
>> There are obviously restrictions, so I am not able to reproduce the
>> article here, but do have the im****tant part to quote ...and will
>> provide the link to the JSTOR site and this article. Anyone interested
>> can find a library or college, whatever, that belongs and ask for
>> access.
>>
>> The title of the article is:
>> Russian in the Public and Private Schools of the USA 1959
>>
>> Author: Fan Parker [yes...FAN is correct-bj]
>>
>> Published in The Modern Language Journal, Vol 44, No. 2, (Feb. 1960),
>> pp. 77 - 81.
>>
>> The intro is:
>> "The introduction of the Russian language into the American school
>> curriculum has grown from a negligible beginning in 1957 to the
>> encouraging number of 313 in 1959.*
>>
>> The list which follows reveals the scope of this educational
>> phenomenon."
>>
>> The * goes to this note: "As tabulated by the National Information
>> Center at Brooklyn College."
>>
>> The rest of this article consists of the list by states, and schools
>> within those states, offering Russian language courses BY 1959.
>> It does not indicate which year the course started in any particular
>> school ...whether it was 1957, 1958 or 1959.
>>
>> Listed for the state of Florida are 7 schools.
>>
>> One of them is "Manatee Junior College, Bradenton, Fla."
>>
>> The other schools listed for Florida are high schools in:
>> Miami
>> North Miami
>> Melbourne
>> Hialeah
>> and 2 in Fort Lauderdale
>>
>> Judyth claims the Russian class taught at Manatee Junior College was
>> organized, staffed and started for her by conservatibe military
>> friends of her Col. Doyle in 1960.
>>
>> This article lists Manatee Junior College as a Florida school that
>> already HAD a course in Russian by no later than 1959.
>>
>> Did Judyth take the Russian course that Spring of 1960?
>>
>> Maybe ... maybe not.
>>
>> I received this e-mail from the registrar at the college in response
>> to my verification of attendance query:
>>
>> QUOTE
>>
>> From:"Registrar" <registrar@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> [Add to Address Book]
>>
>> To:<barbjfk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> Subject:RE: Attendance verification request
>> Date:Wednesday, April 09, 2008 6:47:25 AM
>> [View Source]
>> We do not show that Judy A Vary ever attended here; unless she had a
>> previous name. We had an instructor by the name of Concevitch and
>> Russian was taught during that time. That is all the information that
>> I am able to provide.
>>
>>
>>
>> Registrar Office
>>
>> PO Box 1849
>>
>> Bradenton, FL 34206
>>
>> (941)752-5050
>>
>> FAX: (941)727-6380
>>
>>
>> END QUOTE
>>
>> BUT NOTE!
>>
>> I received word from another researcher that he had phoned the school
>> at some point in time in the past and asked to verify Judy Vary having
>> attended ... and he says he is sure they told him she did.
>>
>> IMO, it is more likely for someone to overlooks a name (misfiled?)
>> than it is likely that one would confirm seeing a student record that
>> does not exist.
>>
>> The registrar contact info is above for anyone who wants to see which
>> way they can resolve it .... I would hope that if anyone does, they
>> post the info, just as I have, regardless of which way it falls. :-)
>>
>> In my opinion, it doesn't really matter .. Judyth notes in her book
>> that she withdrew and then audited the class ... and also claims she
>> audited two other semesters (one in 1961 and one in 1962), one being
>> conversational Russian.
>>
>> When one audits cl***** there is no paper trail. :-)
>>
>> What matters here is the bigger part of the claim .. that the class
>> was created and staffed FOR her and that "first" class, because of her
>> timing with the science fairs that semester ...was the Spring semester
>> of 1960.
>>
>> Judyth's claim is at odds with the article that lists Manatee Junior
>> College as already having a Russian class in place by no later than
>> 1959.
>>
>> The JSTOR link is:
>> http://www.jstor.org/pss/320654
>>
>> That links to the page teasing you with the article.<g> From there you
>> can click around and read about JSTOR and about getting access.
>> Anyone interested might be able to get access through their local
>> library, or through a college.
>>
>> Barb :-)
>>
>>
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