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Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics

by curtjester1 <curtjester1@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 17, 2008 at 04:22 PM

On May 17, 10:35=C2=A0am, ernie1241 <ernie1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Curt: =C2=A0I'm not aware that H.L. Hunt "held JBS meetings in his home"
o=
r
> that he even sup****ted the JBS. =C2=A0However, his son, Nelson Bunker
Hunt=
,
> is on the JBS National Council.
>
> I've seen no credible data regarding any JBS connection (as an
> organization) to the assassination of JFK.
>
I believe you can receive corroboration from Madeleine Brown's book,
LBJ's mistress, who knew him and hobnobbed with him.  Jack Ruby had
his literature on him when he was arrested for killing LHO.  Ruby
provided girls, gambling, and drugs to H.L.  H.L was known by his top
aide, Curington, to have seen Ruby, Oswald, Oswald's handler,
DeMoren****ldt, and H.L together on "various occasions."  Here is a
chapter on H.L. from a book that goes for about $40 on ebay.

http://www.voxfux.com/kennedy/farewell/farewell11.html

> However, some individual members/sympathizers of the JBS were involved
> in preparing and publi****ng the nasty "Wanted For Treason" flyer that
> appeared in Dallas and Robert Alan Surrey and Joseph Grinnan (JBS
> members) were involved in the famous anti-JFK newspaper ad "Welcome
> Mr. Kennedy" that was published in the Dallas Morning News on the day
> of JFK's assassination.
>
> A lot of false or highly suspect data about this matter has been
> circulated by Harry J. Dean who claims he was an FBI "undercover
> agent" or informant within the Birch Society. =C2=A0However, Dean's
> assertions about his background are fabrications.
>
> Recently, I received an FBI do***ent which pertains to an inquiry
> about a column by James Horwitz published on page 2 of the 3/16/77
> issue of the Las Virgenes (CA) Independent Valley News.
>
> The column re****ted on their "exclusive interview" with Harry Dean
> during which he repeated his claims about his alleged association with
> the FBI as an undercover operative or informant from 1960-1965.
>
> The Assistant Director in Charge of the FBI's Los Angeles field office
> (Robert E. Gebhardt) responded to an inquiry about Dean's assertions
> and he forwarded a copy of his 4/1/77 reply to James K. Coffin, the
> Publisher of the Las Virgenes Independent Valley News. =C2=A0You may
obtai=
n
> a copy of the column, the inquiry, and the reply by requesting FBI Los
> Angeles field office file 100-59001, serial #1258.
>
> Here is the pertinent excerpt of Gebhardt's reply:
>
> "In the interest of accuracy, I must advise you that Harry Dean has
> never been an undercover operative of the Federal Bureau of
> Investigation, has never been an informant of this Bureau, and has
> never been instructed to perform any act on behalf of the Federal
> Bureau of Investigation. =C2=A0Furthermore, I can tell you that the FBI
ha=
s
> never investigated the John Birch Society. =C2=A0I am bringing the above
> information your attention. =C2=A0You might consider furni****ng this
> information to the readers of your column."
>
> On May 16, 10:54=EF=BF=BDpm, curtjester1 <curtjest...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>
>
Lots of people are FBI informants.  Jack Ruby was because he didn't
want other people coming in to his mob territory of illegal
activities, and snitched them off.

JEH probably didn't care about the JBS because he already had an 'anti-
communist' aura over him.  He went after all those gremlins while the
Mob ran roughshod over him.  Basically Hoover only went after people
that he could use, like President's, and people with lots of money
like the Murchison's of Dallas who owned the Cowboys, and vacationed
at his resort in California every year.  I just did a piece where JEH
was ordered to close down the anti-Cuba camps in Lake Ponchartrain, LA
where they were making and practicing invasion plans against Castro
and Cuba.  JEH out of hatred and defiance just had one of the six
camps closed.  And as Gil is alluding to, hated the Kennedy's so much
and had everything to lose by them, that he helped the conspirators
not only kill him by complicity, also helped protect the conspirators
by maneuvering the investigation through the top of his office to
'overlook' the evidence and the people that were under him, to make
sure there was only one man guilty in the American Public's eye, LHO.


CJ


>
> > On May 16, 3:16=EF=BF=BDpm,ernie1241<ernie1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > The most recent edition of my 65-page John Birch Society Re****t
which
> > > is based primarily upon first-time released FBI files and do***ents
> > > may be seen at:
>
> > > JBS Re****t Chapters 1 thru 4:
=EF=BF=BDhttp://ernie1241.googlepages.co=
m/jbs-1
>
> > > (1) FBI Evaluations of Robert Welch and the John Birch Society
> > > including a brief introduction to the controversy over Robert
Welch's
> > > book-length "private letter" entitled The Politician.
>
> > > (2) FBI vs JBS on Internal Security Status of U.S.
>
> > > (3) FBI vs JBS on Communist Infiltration of Clergy and Religious
> > > Institutions
>
> > > (4) FBI vs JBS on Communists in the Department of Health, Education,
> > > Welfare
>
> > > JBS Re****t, Chapter 5:
=EF=BF=BDhttp://ernie1241.googlepages.com/jbs-2=

>
> > > (5) FBI vs JBS on Dr. Harry A. Overstreet as an alleged Communist
> > > Sympathizer or Dupe
>
> > > JBS Re****t, Chapters 6-7:
=EF=BF=BDhttp://ernie1241.googlepages.com/jb=
s-3
>
> > > (6) =EF=BF=BDFBI vs. JBS on Civil Rights Movement -- including Alan
St=
ang's
> > > 1965 book, It's Very Simple, and, Highlander Folk School as an
alleged=

> > > "Communist Training School"
>
> > > (7) =EF=BF=BDFBI vs JBS on Persons JBS Claims To Be "Experts" on
Commu=
nism
>
> > > (includes discussion of Dan Smoot, W. Cleon Skousen, David Gumaer,
> > > Julia Brown, Lola Belle Holmes, among others
>
> > > SEE ALSO:
>
> > > Details re: MY RESEARCH here - updated
5/16/08:http://ernie1241.google=
pages.com/home
>
> > > my January 2008 26-page re****t on former FBI Special Agent Dan Smoot
> > > at:http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/smoot
>
> > > Aside from mis-representing his FBI background, Smoot's observations
> > > and conclusions about the civil rights movement and organizations
like=

> > > NAACP (which are identical to those circulated by the John Birch
> > > Society) are contradicted by sources both he and the Birch Society
> > > recommended as authoritative and reliable--including former CPUSA
> > > members who were FBI informants and whom subsequently became paid
> > > speakers for the John Birch Society! =EF=BF=BD See my Smoot re****t
for=

> > > details.
>
> > > My May 2008 9-page re****t on Edgar C. Bundy (Church League of
America)=

> > > at:http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/bundy-1
>
> > > My May 2008 21-page re****t on Martin Luther King Jr. and the
> > > "Communist Training School"
at:http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/HFS-1
>
> > > my 20-page bibliography concerning anti-CFR and anti-Illuminati
books,=

> > > pamphlets, and articles since the beginning of the 20th century
(copy
> > > available upon request)
>
> > > my 57-page bibliography of academic theses and doctoral
dissertations
> > > pertaining to the right-wing in the United States (copy available
upon=

> > > request)
>
> > > my December 2007 13-page article entitled "Purpose of Conspiracy
> > > Theories" at:http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/conspiracytheories
>
> > > Questions, criticisms, and comments may be directed to me at:
> > > Ernie1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > Tell us what you think about the Birchers and the assassination of
> > JFK. =EF=BF=BDI would be most interested in what is thought of H.L
Hunt
> > (richest man in the U.S.) and holder of JBS meetings in his home.
>
> > CJ- Hide quoted text -
>
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 17 Posts in Topic:
My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
ernie1241 <ernie1241@[  2008-05-16 15:16:35 
Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-16 22:54:26 
Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
Mike Russell <groupsRE  2008-05-17 00:11:58 
Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
ernie1241 <ernie1241@[  2008-05-17 10:35:54 
Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-18 14:09:54 
Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
Gil Jesus <gjjmail@[EM  2008-05-17 12:34:11 
Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-17 16:22:48 
Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
ernie1241 <ernie1241@[  2008-05-17 17:46:35 
Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
ernie1241 <ernie1241@[  2008-05-17 17:58:26 
Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-17 21:54:05 
Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
Gil Jesus <gjjmail@[EM  2008-05-18 05:11:08 
Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
Gil Jesus <gjjmail@[EM  2008-05-18 06:31:35 
Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-18 10:29:21 
Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
Gil Jesus <GJJmail@[EM  2008-05-18 14:37:11 
Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
Gil Jesus <gjjmail@[EM  2008-05-18 11:12:06 
Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
ernie1241 <ernie1241@[  2008-05-18 17:20:07 
Re: My Research Into Birch Society and Related Topics
ernie1241 <ernie1241@[  2008-05-20 06:50:01 

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