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Re: From the Jim Douglass book

by "Martin Shackelford" <mshack4@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 6, 2008 at 02:54 AM

You don't actually address the issue, Ed, you just attack Marchetti, as
CIA folks always tend to do.

Martin

"Ed Dolan" <74030.3022@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:674ea213-c66b-4de0-96ef-1162aa08a66b@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Jul 5, 2:18 am, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> False Defector program:
>> Source: Victor Marchetti, former executive assistant to the Director of

>> CIA
>> Details: run out of Nag's Head, North Carolina by Naval Intelligence in
>> 1959,
>> involving 36-40 men, sent into the Soviet Union and Eastern European
>> countries; trained at various naval installations in the U.S. and
abroad.
>
> Fir starters, Marchetti is NOT a reliable source  He was NOT the
> executive assistant to the DCI but was an aide to the DDCI, who I
> believe was Rufe Taylor at the tine.  When Taylor left, Marchetti
> expected to be come an AD in the DDI, he was a GS-15. However he was
> offered a position as a division chief under an AD.  But he was afraid
> to take that as he had been   harassing the ADs asking for things
> saying the "the DDCI wanted . . . " when he didn't. The ADs found this
> out.  So Marchetti resigned figuring he could write a novel.  That
> failed.  He wrote another book but that was not cleared but it was
> published anyway with many fabrications and errors of fact. Later, he
> found his way to working for the Liberty Lobby.  Unless you can get
> independent solid confirmation of anything that Marchetti writes,
> ignore it.  He has since faded from view.
>           s/f Dolan
>
>>
>> Ruth Paine:
>> CIA connections:
>>      George DeMohrenschildt, directed at Oswald by local CIA man J.
>>          Walton Moore, arranged for Ruth to meet Marina. He arranged
>>          the party at which they met, and brought the Oswalds, and paid
>>          close attention to how Ruth and Marina got along. Two months
>>          later, DeMohrenschildt left for Haiti, and Ruth became the new
>>          "Oswald best friend." J. Edgar Hoover advised the Warren
>>          Commission to suppress do***ents relating to the Paines and
>>          the DeMohrenschildts.
>>       Michael Paine worked for defense contractor Bell Helicopter, a
>>          flying machine invented by his stepfather. His work involved a
>>          security clearance. His mother was a close friend of Mary
>>          Bancroft, Allen Dulles' mistress. Dulles helped to steer the
>>          questioning away from these topics.
>>       Ruth's father, William Avery Hyde, was rewarded with an AID
>>          contract covering all of Latin America, in a CIA-related role.
>>          His re****ts were sent to the CIA.
>>       Ruth's older sister, Sylvia Hyde Hoke, was a CIA employee by
>>          1955 at the latest. Ruth stayed with her in September 1963.
>>          Sylvia's husband John was also a CIA employee. Ruth went
>>          from there to New Orleans to pick up Marina. Ruth denied to
>>          Jim Garrison that she knew which agency Sylvia worked for.
>>       Marina testified in New Orleans that after the assassination, the
>>          Secret Service advised her to avoid Ruth, due to her
connection
>>          to the CIA.
>> Ruth and the TSBD job:
>>        Ruth told the Warren Commission that she heard about a job
>>            opening from her neighbor, Linnie Mae Randle, and passed the
>>            information on to Oswald. Ms. Randle told the Commission she
>>            hadn't been aware of any job opening.
>>        When the Texas Employment Commission called to say there was
>>            a better-paying job available for Oswald, Marina's "friend" 
>> Ruth
>>            kept the information to herself and never told Oswald. The
job
>>            was at Trans-Texas Airways. Unlike the TSBD job, it wasn't
>>            tem****ary, and paid $100 per month more. When the TEC called
>>            again, they were curtly told Oswald already had a job. She 
>> first
>>            told the Warren Commission she never knew about the better 
>> job,
>>            then said she vaguely recalled it, then said Oswald had told

>> her
>>            about it, but that it "fell through." Then she admitted 
>> knowing
>> about
>>            the job offer when Oswald was still unemployed--so she had
to
>>            have been the person called by the TEC. She falsely said
that
>>            Oswald had checked on the job, but it had been filled. It
had, 
>> of
>>            course, been filled because she told the TEC he already had
a
>> job.
>>            She claimed that he got the info from the TEC and told her
and
>>            Marina about it--which was impossible. The TEC never talked
>>            directly with him about it--only the two calls to the Paine 
>> home.
>>            Marina said that, after he began at the TSBD, he continued
to
>>            answer ads, looking for something better.
>>
>> The Fair Play for Cuba leaflet delivery:
>> The witness who saw Carlos Quiroga visit Oswald was Oswald's
>> landlady. She re****ted that Quiroga brought a 5-6 inch stack of
>> leaflets with him.
>>
>> CIA and Secret Service credentials:
>> In June 2007, the CIA finally released its "Family Jewels" re****t,
>> running to 702 pages. It included a memo by Sidney Gottlieb, head
>> of the Technical Services Division, dated May 8, 1973. Gottlieb
>> stated that his division provided the Secret Service with "gate
>> p*****, security p*****, p***** for presidential campaign, emblems
>> for presidential vehicles, a secure ID photo system." Officially, the
>> Secret Service ID was made by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing.
>> The CIA could have supplied AUTHENTIC Secret Service credentials
>> for a CIA operation.
>>
>> Martin
>
 




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