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Hi tomnln,
On Jul 14, 2:23=A0am, "tomnln" <tom...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Hi Timmy;
>
> Amazing how the "Greastest Investigation in History" didn't think to
show
> Mr. Jones photos of other Principes
> to find out WHO picked up those flyers Huh Timmy???
>
The *Greastest Investigation in History*? Other Principes? Whatever
are you tomnlning on about, tomnln? Oh, you mean how the FBI tracked
down ALL the print shops in New Orleans that Oswald used? Yeah, that
was pretty good!
As for other *Principes*? Well, tomnln, I assume you mean other
suspects? Let's face it, tomnln, Oswald was ALREADY the number one
suspect from the FBI's perspective, given they interviewed him back in
August of '63 about his FPCC activities.
What other *Principes* did you have in mind, tomnln? Buddy Walthers's
old mum-in-law, perchance?
> Mr. Jones KNEW it was NOT Oswald.
>
Well why don't you prove that:
QUOTE ON:
Mr. Jones KNEW it was NOT Oswald.
QUOTE OFF
tomnln, if you think that that is the case. Lee Harvey Oswald
certainly said he arranged the printing etc of the leaflets, tomnln.
Do you need the official citation from the evidence/testimony? Always
happy to help, tomnln.
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
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> Hi Martin,
>
> Hmmm, not exactly correct, Martin. No one at Jones Printing seems to
> actually offer an ID of who picked up the printing, Martin. You should
> go back and read the statements sometime.
>
> As it is, the statements of Jones Printing staff need to be weighed
> against the fact of the finding of copies of Oswald's FPCC handbill in
> their records, along with a handwritten draft of same, related billing
> material and then Oswald's own mailing of copies of the handbill to
> Vincent Lee (FPCC) and Arnold Johnson (CPUSA) within days of the print
> order being completed.
>
> The print order was completed around 4 June, 1963. Quiroga visited
> Oswald at 4907 Magazine St on the afternoon or evening of 16 August,
> 1963.
>
> Your scenario about Quiroga *delivering* the completed pamphlets to
> Oswald is entirely implausible, given Oswald posted copies out in
> early June, picketed USS Wasp with copies of the leaflets in mid June,
> was arrested (and filmed) on 9 August while leafleting and filmed
> again around midday on 16 August passing out the leaflets.
>
> Isn't that the case, Martin? Of course it is.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim Brennan
> Sydney, Australia
> *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
>
> On Jul 13, 4:47 pm, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The printer (Jones) said someone else picked up the leaflets.
> > Oswald's landlady said Quiroga delivered them to Oswald.
> > These testimonies are consistent.
>
> > Martin
>
> > <timst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Hi Martin,
>
> > Oh, did he?
>
> > It's not evidence of about the same worth as your *stack of leaflets*
> > nonsense is it?
>
> > The preponderance of evidence, Martin, is that Oswald was solely
> > responsible for arranging the printing and distribution of FPCC
> > material in New Orleans in mid 1963.
>
> > I think any *serious researcher* would conclude that.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Tim Brennan
> > Sydney, Australia
> > *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
>
> > On Jul 12, 4:25 pm, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > wrote:
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> > > And the printer said Oswald wasn't the guy who picked up the flyers.
>
> > > Martin
>
> > > <timst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > Hi tomnln,
>
> > > Say, which pro Castro literature from the printer would that be
then,
> > > tomnln? There were three different items printed.
>
> > > Oswald himself said he organised the printing of these items,
tomnln.
>
> > > Regards,
>
> > > Tim Brennan
> > > Sydney, Australia
> > > *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
>
> > > On Jul 9, 2:25 am, "tomnln" <tom...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Timmy;
>
> > > > Tell us WHO picked up the Pro-Castro literature from the Printer?
>
> > > > We know it was NOT Oswald.
>
> > > > <timst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >
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> > > > Hi Martin,
>
> > > > The claim that Carlos Quiroga delivered a 5 to 6 inch stack of
> > > > leaflets to Oswald sounds highly dubious to me.
>
> > > > Quiroga was using the address that Oswald had stamped on the
leafle=
ts
> > > > that he had given out at International Trade Mart, 4907 Magazine
St=
,
> > > > to locate Oswald in the first place.
>
> > > > On the face of it, the landlady story doesn't STACK up, LOL! :-)
>
> > > > Regards,
>
> > > > Tim Brennan
> > > > Sydney, Australia
> > > > *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
>
> > > > On Jul 5, 4:18 pm, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wro=
te:
>
> > > > > False Defector program:
> > > > > Source: Victor Marchetti, former executive assistant to the
Direc=
tor
> > > > > of
> > > > > CIA
> > > > > Details: run out of Nag's Head, North Carolina by Naval
Intellige=
nce
> > > > > in
> > > > > 1959,
> > > > > involving 36-40 men, sent into the Soviet Union and Eastern
Europ=
ean
> > > > > countries; trained at various naval installations in the U.S.
and
> > > > > abroad.
>
> > > > > Ruth Paine:
> > > > > CIA connections:
> > > > > George DeMohrenschildt, directed at Oswald by local CIA man J.
> > > > > Walton Moore, arranged for Ruth to meet Marina. He arranged
> > > > > the party at which they met, and brought the Oswalds, and paid
> > > > > close attention to how Ruth and Marina got along. Two months
> > > > > later, DeMohrenschildt left for Haiti, and Ruth became the new
> > > > > "Oswald best friend." J. Edgar Hoover advised the Warren
> > > > > Commission to suppress do***ents relating to the Paines and
> > > > > the DeMohrenschildts.
> > > > > Michael Paine worked for defense contractor Bell Helicopter, a
> > > > > flying machine invented by his stepfather. His work involved a
> > > > > security clearance. His mother was a close friend of Mary
> > > > > Bancroft, Allen Dulles' mistress. Dulles helped to steer the
> > > > > questioning away from these topics.
> > > > > Ruth's father, William Avery Hyde, was rewarded with an AID
> > > > > contract covering all of Latin America, in a CIA-related role.
> > > > > His re****ts were sent to the CIA.
> > > > > Ruth's older sister, Sylvia Hyde Hoke, was a CIA employee by
> > > > > 1955 at the latest. Ruth stayed with her in September 1963.
> > > > > Sylvia's husband John was also a CIA employee. Ruth went
> > > > > from there to New Orleans to pick up Marina. Ruth denied to
> > > > > Jim Garrison that she knew which agency Sylvia worked for.
> > > > > Marina testified in New Orleans that after the assassination,
the
> > > > > Secret Service advised her to avoid Ruth, due to her connection
> > > > > to the CIA.
> > > > > Ruth and the TSBD job:
> > > > > Ruth told the Warren Commission that she heard about a job
> > > > > opening from her neighbor, Linnie Mae Randle, and passed the
> > > > > information on to Oswald. Ms. Randle told the Commission she
> > > > > hadn't been aware of any job opening.
> > > > > When the Texas Employment Commission called to say there was
> > > > > a better-paying job available for Oswald, Marina's "friend" Ruth
> > > > > kept the information to herself and never told Oswald. The job
> > > > > was at Trans-Texas Airways. Unlike the TSBD job, it wasn't
> > > > > tem****ary, and paid $100 per month more. When the TEC called
> > > > > again, they were curtly told Oswald already had a job. She first
> > > > > told the Warren Commission she never knew about the better job,
> > > > > then said she vaguely recalled it, then said Oswald had told her
> > > > > about it, but that it "fell through." Then she admitted knowing
> > > > > about
> > > > > the job offer when Oswald was still unemployed--so she had to
> > > > > have been the person called by the TEC. She falsely said that
> > > > > Oswald had checked on the job, but it had been filled. It had,
of
> > > > > course, been filled because she told the TEC he already had a
> > > > > job.
> > > > > She claimed that he got the info from the TEC and told her and
> > > > > Marina about it--which was impossible. The TEC never talked
> > > > > directly with him about it--only the two calls to the Paine
home.
> > > > > Marina said that, after he began at the TSBD, he continued to
> > > > > answer ads, looking for something better.
>
> > > > > The Fair Play for Cuba leaflet delivery:
> > > > > The witness who saw Carlos Quiroga visit Oswald was Oswald's
> > > > > landlady. She re****ted that Quiroga brought a 5-6 inch stack of
> > > > > leaflets with him.
>
> > > > > CIA and Secret Service credentials:
> > > > > In June 2007, the CIA finally released its "Family Jewels"
re****t=
,
> > > > > running to 702 pages. It included a memo by Sidney Gottlieb,
head
> > > > > of the Technical Services Division, dated May 8, 1973. Gottlieb
> > > > > stated that his division provided the Secret Service with "gate
> > > > > p*****, security p*****, p***** for presidential campaign,
emblem=
s
> > > > > for presidential vehicles, a secure ID photo system."
Officially,
> > > > > the
> > > > > Secret Service ID was made by the Bureau of Engraving and
Printin=
g.
> > > > > The CIA could have supplied AUTHENTIC Secret Service credentials
> > > > > for a CIA operation.
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