On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:14:12 -0600 (CST), you wrote:
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|>Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 08:31:06 -0700
|>From: "Jim Szpajcher" <zhqzna1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ROT13
|>Subject: Re: Utah CCW Scam?
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|>Bob -
|>The Utah CCW is a certificate which when produced on demand shows that
the
|>person who holds one, has been cleared by the Utah Bureau of Criminal
|>Identification to carry a concealed weapon in Utah. No more and no less.
A
|>number of states have reciprocity agreements with Utah, which recognize
|>Utah's CCW as valid for concealed carry in their state. Several of the
The BATF/ATFE don't seem to recognize the Canadianversion of the Utah
CCW as much....much controversy there, but I can't Cite more examples than
Net Discussions and (http://www.canadiangunnutz.com)
postings...
|>states require the holder of Utah's CCW to be a resident of Utah in
order to
|>be valid for the purposes of CCW.
That is altogether different, but then a lot Hell's Angel types have
one around there too so what does that tell me....hhmmmm.... why not?
|>Since 9/11, the Department of Homeland Security and other federal
|>departments, in association with draconian new laws regarding the
ability of
|>non-Americans to possess firearms in the U.S. have made the Utah CCW a
|>valuable do***ent for those travelling in the U.S., who wish to carry a
|>firearm for legitimate defensive purposes.
No doubt it's useful for that, since there are no other feasible
venues on that aspect.
|>I don't see what the controversy is about. The Utah CCW is not a
pass****t,
|>nor a visa, nor a scam. It is what it says it is.
The word Scam stems from the Hard sell the Canadian Circuit Utah CCW
promoters who are trying to say that it is flawless.......on that note, I
notice that any CCW without some prior trainning is not worth much, and
since
it only allows you to gather high hopes, whereas the ATFE uses it to
track/target you specifically.
The next Canadian Circuit Utah CCW promoters, say they will be
including a training mano-a-mano with snapcaps at a range, like Langley
BC,
to qualify for a Canadian Utah CCW2?....it might be worth something better
than an obscure do***ent.
Some CCW incident victims said they'd be better off without one,
exercising their 2nd amendments as a Patriot rather than be subjected to
Guvmint Licensing.
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