"Fran" <Fran.Beta@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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May 15, 12:42 am, "James" <kingko...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "Fran" <Fran.B...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On May 14, 1:27 am, Claudius Denk <claudiusd...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > On May 13, 8:04 am, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > Barack Obama's plan on GLOBAL WARMING
>
> > > Please watch:
>
> > >http://youtube.com/watch?v=GcpGRO-j_Ik
>
> > > Obama's plan is the same as McCain's and Clinton's.
> > > No matter which of the top three candidates wins,
> > > with the swearing in of the new US President,
> > > cap-and-trade wins the political battle.
> > > The current administration's do-noting and
> > > know-nothing policies are a thing of the past.
> > > The world is going to start controlling CO2.
> > > A few kooks and their fantasies will remain
> > > behind, barking their pseudo-science at the
> > > moon.
>
> > As a rule politicians, especially presidential candidates, don't
> > speak
> > out against religious movements. There's as much chance of him
> > speaking out against global warming cultists as there is of him
> > speaking out against pentecostalist, methodists, or Buhdists
>
> Here's what MCCain says:
>
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> Today I'd like to focus on just one of those challenges, and among
> environmental dangers it is surely the most serious of all. Whether we
> call it "climate change" or "global warming," in the end we're all
> left with the same set of facts. The facts of global warming demand
> our urgent attention, especially in Wa****ngton. Good steward****p,
> prudence, and simple commonsense demand that we to act meet the
> challenge, and act quickly.
>
> Some of the most compelling evidence of global warming comes to us
> from NASA. No longer do we need to rely on guesswork and computer
> modeling, because satellite images reveal a dramatic disappearance of
> glaciers, Antarctic ice shelves and polar ice sheets. And I've seen
> some of this evidence up close. A few years ago I traveled to the area
> of Svalbard, Norway, a group of islands in the Arctic Ocean. I was
> shown the southernmost point where a glacier had reached twenty years
> earlier. From there, we had to venture northward up the fjord to see
> where that same glacier ends today -- because all the rest has melted.
> On a trip to Alaska, I heard about a national park visitor's center
> that was built to offer a picture-perfect view of a large glacier.
> Problem is, the glacier is gone. A work of nature that took ages to
> form had melted away in a matter of decades.
>
> Our scientists have also seen and measured reduced snowpack, with
> earlier runoffs in the Pacific Northwest and elsewhere. We have seen
> sustained drought in the Southwest, and across the world average
> temperatures that seem to reach new records every few years. We have
> seen a higher incidence of extreme weather events. In the frozen wilds
> of Alaska, the Arctic, Antarctic, and elsewhere, wildlife biologists
> have noted sudden changes in animal migration patterns, a loss of
> their habitat, a rise in sea levels. And you would think that if the
> polar bears, walruses, and sea birds have the good sense to respond to
> new conditions and new dangers, then humanity can respond as well.
>
> We have many advantages in the fight against global warming, but time
> is not one of them. Instead of idly debating the precise extent of
> global warming, or the precise timeline of global warming, we need to
> deal with the central facts of rising temperatures, rising waters, and
> all the endless troubles that global warming will bring. We stand
> warned by serious and credible scientists across the world that time
> is short and the dangers are great. The most relevant question now is
> whether our own government is equal to the challenge.
>
> ...
>
> Like other environmental challenges -- only more so -- global warming
> presents a test of foresight, of political courage, and of the
> unselfish concern that one generation owes to the next. We need to
> think straight about the dangers ahead, and to meet the problem with
> all the resources of human ingenuity at our disposal. We Americans
> like to say that there is no problem we can't solve, however
> complicated, and no obstacle we cannot overcome if we meet it
> together. I believe this about our country. I know this about our
> country. And now it is time for us to show those qualities once again.
>
> http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/Speeches/0b381abd-e573-459d-...
>
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>
> That doesn't sound like he's pitching to assuage those with a
> religious conviction. He cited the science and placed it within the
> challenges of government and steward****p.
>
> You can go on kidding yourself, but really, now that even the
> Republicans have accepted what is blindingly obvious, where can your
> lot go to push your barrow?
>
> >Fran
>
> Where was the science? McCain is a gullible soul.
He probably leaves that to scientists. Is he no longer "the straight
talk express"? Is he as gullible as Bush? Will you be voting for him?
> You could probably
> convince him of global warming by showing him your pond melting in the
> spring.
But could you convince him that Saddam had WMD by showing him some
grainy pictures of some shed and a few trucks parked outside?
The interesting thing is that all candidates for nomination, and
indeed, all candidates in both parties' races with the exception of
Fred Thompson uncritically accepted the AGW-hypothesis.
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Bingo!
You've got it right with "uncritically"!
And it's still only a hypothesis, and a far-fetched one at that.
Warmest Regards
Bonzo
".it should not be surprising to see hordes of former Reds, or of those
who otherwise would have become Reds, turning from Marxism and becoming
the Greens of the ecology movement. It is the same fundamental
philosophy in a different guise, ready as ever to wage war on the
freedom and well-being of the individual." Dr. George Reisman's book
Capitalism


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